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Gameday Thread: White Sox at O's, 08/01

                           
     Mark Buehrle, LH                Daniel Cabrera, RH
     (11-4, 2.96)                    (8-8, 4.68)

Game time is 12:35 on CSNs in Baltimore and Chicago.

There are two and a half ways to look at last night's game. The first way is to say that Rodrigo Lopez, on a night the team needed him to provide innings, shit the bed and was demolished in short order, thus eliminating any chance we had to win. And that's the result of the game.

The second way is to see that we got 12 hits in the game, and that the only players who didn't get a hit were Newhan and Mora. Plus, the bullpen was very sharp, and in all honesty, the Orioles had their chances to get back into the game and possibly even win it. Of course, there's the half: they left 12 on base and repeatedly failed to deliver in the situations that could have seen them come back into it, which has been most of the problem of late. The team's inability to bring in the men they put on base is getting pretty staggering.

But that was yesterday, and today is today. Buehrle is a good pitcher having probably his best season. He's generally given up his fair share of homers, including 33 last year, but he's allowed only eight this season. In seasons past, his HR/9 totals have been 0.88, 0.98, 0.94, 0.86 and 1.21. This year, he's at 0.46.

He's a workhorse pitcher. A lot of the White Sox pitchers have been workhorse pitchers. This is considered commendable, and to some extent I agree, but what happens when these guys wear out? What happens to the White Sox if Buehrle or Garcia or Garland go down with an injury, or see their performance slip dramatically because they're simply tired? With Buehrle, it's not that likely for several reasons, but what about a guy like Freddy Garcia?

At what point can the White Sox no longer rely on players to push themselves through back injuries that aren't going to get better by playing baseball (Hermanson and Crede), or potentially fatigue a starting pitching staff? The latter does do one positive thing, which is save the pen, but how good is that bullpen over four or five innings instead of two or three? I don't know. Maybe none of that happens. I am not Nostradamus. But I think they have things to worry about.

This will be Cabrera's second start in three days. Hopefully this one lasts a little longer and we can avoid a sweep.

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Worse?
It can't possibly get any worse... can it?  Can it even say consistently this bad much longer?  Please, No.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 8:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Worst Team in Baseball
This series has truly shown what happens when the best TEAM in baseball plays games against the worst TEAM in baseball. I emphasize team because that is exactly how Chicago has amassed their MLB best record this year @ 68-35, while we flounder @ 51-53. The last time these two teams played each other was the weekend of May 12-15. We split those games, after losing the opening pair we won on both Saturday and Sunday. When that weekend ended, we were 24-13, and the pale Hose were 27-11. So, we were exactly 2-1/2 games behind the best record in baseball, and our record was the same as the Cards @ 24-13. We had the same basic roster we do now, and we now sit 17-1/2 games behind the Chi Sox. So, in a quick 2-1/2 month time span we have fallen 15 games from our previous postition. Yeah, we had some serious injury issues to work thru, especially Bedard ( who was on his way to a Cy Young type season before he got hurt ) and Javy, but the collapse of our season really began when Mora hurt his hammy in Toronto. That game, and his subsequent trip to the bench, started our tailspin. The chemistry and teamwork seemed to die during his absence, and we have never gotten it back. To me as a long time O's fan, there is something really wrong with this group of players. There is a bad seed or two in the clubhouse, and it is destroying the team. I don't know if it's Shamu and his attitiude, but to hear that he is now refusing to even speak to the manager after his pitching coach demands it tells me more about this team then the stats do. You can't become this bad on the field if everything is A-OK off of it. Baltmore is a small town as far as the media is concerned, and we do not have the glow of major media breathing down the players necks all of the time. I don't think our local baseball writers are being square with the fans as far as the teams' dynamics and personalities are concerned. I have personally managed large teams of folks for many years, and I will guarantee that when a whole team is flailing this badly, and they have proven they have the talent and energy to compete and win at high levels, there is a cancer in the team that must be removed. Could it be Mazilli doesn't have any control over the group? He's a manger, and it is his job to manage. If I was him, and I did my job as poorly as he is doing right now, I would be fired, and so would all of you. He manages a TEAM. TEAMS perform well under good leadership. Even TEAMS with marginal players perform with good leadership. Where I work, leadership is determined by how many followers you have, and the amount of passion they have for following you. Say what you want about the other "manager" in town, but Billick's players believe in him and play hard for him most of the time. Even over the past couple of years when injuries and rookie quarterbacks were the norm, the Ravens believed in the team and thr system enough to be competitive. Right now, I don't thinkt he O's could win a 3 game series against any team in baseball! Right now, it my opinion, Mazilli needs to be fired immediately. Put Dempsey in as manager, and have him DFA whoever is causing the turmoil. There needs to be a seriuos "pick em up and shake em by the ears " mentality here. These guys are being paid millions to do their job, which is to play baseball. Right now, they are stealing paychecks. Somebody needs to send a message and fire someone. NOW. B&F, if you're listening, if you are not going to try and improve the team you have now, then get rid of the guy that is supposedly leading it. He's not doing his job..and the collapse of this team is Lee's fault. HE HAS TO GO.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 8:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou Piniella
Which is why, talk of Lou in 2006 does not excite me.  Has he proven to be a good manager, better than others?  Not to me, just more vocal.

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
He did win a World Series with a pretty average team and 116 games with a pretty good team, and several other playoff appearances.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Aug 1, 2005 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been avoiding it all season...
but I am beginning to get on the "Maz must go" bandwagon. To this point, my feeling has been that we need to stick with a manager for once, and firing someone less than two years into their managerial career wasn't the best way to do that. But now it's just not working. Some of his decisions make me want to pull my hair out.

Buddy Groom, in his rant about "Torre's boys" and how Mazzilli does the same thing, had a point. The reason that Torre has more success than Mazzilli with this strategy, though, is that Torre can go to Tanyon Sturtze, Tom Gordon and Mariano Rivera, while Mazzilli is going to Steve Kline, Chris Ray and B.J. Ryan. Nothing against Ryan or Ray, but consistently bringing in Steve Kline has been a disaster.

Also, how do we have no long reliever? You think we would have learned a lesson by now and brought up Rick Bauer or SOMEONE who can pitch more than three innings, even if it means they're going to get beat up.

by CStoneNo37 on Aug 1, 2005 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick question on team salary:
Baltimore 74,570,539
Out of the 30 Baseball teams we are listed as 14th with a 74MM team salary however 17MM of that is Sammy's.  How much is the team actually paying for him?
 

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 10:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They are paying
Around 5 million
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok then
While salary overall does not mean you'll be a better team, How can it be that the O's are in the bottom half, if they are only paying 5MM for sammy then our team salary is about 60MM or in the bottom third of all teams, we are better than that.

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey
Eric Byrnes and Matos hit lefties real good! I bet theyll go 0-5 each (if matos is even in the lineup)

by Larry Bigbie3 on Aug 1, 2005 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

actually
Byrnes is 12 for 27 against Buehrle, but then you've just lost your favorite player so you don't want to hear it.  

by Just Me on Aug 1, 2005 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to throw gas on any fires...
But according to several sources in the media, Raffy has tested positive for steroids. Right now there is nothing official from MLB, but keep your ears open today and we may know more.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If true...
can you imagine the disappointment in Baltimore... the fans, the management, his teammates... WOW!!! The repercussions.  God, I hope this isn't true.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

USA Today is reporting....
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/orioles/2005-08-01-palmeiro-suspension_x.htm
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just posted a diary on this
Right now it's still a rumor, but Rotoworld says that ESPNews is reporting it.  Link

by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Aug 1, 2005 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, *God*.
THEY COULDN'T F&^KING TEST GIAMBI?!?

by CarrieIC on Aug 1, 2005 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.
So the O's lose the only positive thing they had going for them lately? Raffy, if this is true, you've made me ashamed to be an Orioles fan right now.

by BrianS on Aug 1, 2005 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comcast SportsNet?
Anyone trying to watch this game?  CSN has home shopping on.

by BrianS on Aug 1, 2005 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Already down 1-0
Cabrera walks the leadoff guy on 4 pitches, wild pitches him to 2nd, and scores on a liner to get higns started. Another day, another loss. Oh well, at least we know Palmiero won't play poorly today.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 12:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Danny's trying to pitch with a bruised hand.
He's a trooper.

And I'm too depressed to care about the score.

by CarrieIC on Aug 1, 2005 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last time...
When was the last time an O's pitcher got the first out of the inning on the first pitch... Go Danny.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Much better inning...
He looks like he's settling down. Hope we can score a few...but Javy looks horrible swinging the bat. I don't think he can grip the bat at all.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seven
7 in a row... did I mention, uh....  Go Danny!!!

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this sucks
No one would blame the rest of the O's for losing 20-0 today.

I am feeling a range of emotions right now. Mad at Raffy for cheating, especially because I had defended him and said I never thought he had done it. Sad for the rest of the team and the fans, who are going through the same emotions and are going to have to hear about this from other team's fans for the next 5 years. Nervous that this will set us on the road to losing another 20 games in a row.

This absolutely sucks.

by CStoneNo37 on Aug 1, 2005 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

other way
It could send our beloved O's the other way (good hustle Davey) and maybe this could be the ignition they need.  Maybe not, but lets hope.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 Game
Would salvaging a game from this series be any kind of jolt for this team... or do you think they might consider it a "lucky win?"

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In light of the days other O's news...
A win would be the biggest win of the year, IMHO.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All one win does
Picks up a 1/2 game on Boston, moves us to 121/2 from last place and makes us 1 game under .500 instead of 3

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that better
than losing a 1/2 game to Boston, moving us us to 13 1/2 from last place, and being 3 game under .500?

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
but that's all it does...

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's official
Danny has gone further today our previous two starters combined.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Careful here....
Dye can be dangerous. All of a sudden, everyhting is up up up
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got him to ground out....no damage
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

raffy
oh man, just when you think things couldn't get any worse.  I guess perjury charges may be forth coming.  

by birdman on Aug 1, 2005 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't think so...
they'd have to prove that he had used steroids previous to that testimony, not that he's used them since the testimony.  Unless the tests that resulted in the suspension were from spring training or the very beginning of the season, there's still no concrete evidence that he committed perjury.

by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Aug 1, 2005 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

steriods testing
i know nothing about steriods testing but can they tell the approximate date of ingestion from the test?  And does anyone know when the O's took their test?  I thought every team is randomly checked once (or twice?) every season but I'm not sure.  Didn't we have some minor league players fail way back in the beginning of the season?  Did they take their roids test at the same time as our major league players?  If so, that places the testing date for raffy near the hearing date.  

by birdman on Aug 1, 2005 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just as I said earlier....
This has been brwieng for a while. I think this whole situation is what has been contributing to the team;s lack of focus and determination. You don't go from being a very good team to the worst team without a MAJOR reason. There are those that will say this couldn't have been a secret that long, but I'm betting this came to light around the 15th or 20th of June.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it would be that long...
...but it could easily be a week, even two.

Maybe that's why everyone's been so lethargic. They don't suck. They're just sad.

by CarrieIC on Aug 1, 2005 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would explain alot.
Professional athletes just don't collectively quit. They have seemed so out of focus for weeks...and this news would certainly help me grasp the reality of the current trend. It's hard to get motivated when you know that your friend and team mate is about to have his life, legacy,  and reputation ruined. I friggin hate Canseco.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...
This is a perversely comforting line of thought. It's a lot nicer to think that, instead of having a team that's completely choked, we've got a team full of guys that are worried to distraction about one of their mates.

by CarrieIC on Aug 1, 2005 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

statement
"The arbitrator did not find that I used a banned substance intentionally - in fact, he said he found my testimony to be compelling - "

They can test whether the player used it intentionally or not.  Yeah right.

What does this for Raffy's hall of fame chances?    

by birdman on Aug 1, 2005 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno...
I just hope if he gets in its wearing a Rangers cap.

by rebop on Aug 1, 2005 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He needs to sit down. A valiant effort
On a horrible day for the team. On pitch 101 he lets up his 5th hit and run # 2. Unfortunatley, that may well be enought for a win and a sweep.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad....
Only his 4th hit. If he doesn't hit the catcher, no harm. Danny has got to get his heater under control.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6
6 decently strong innings...  He's been kind of off and on this game, last inning being an off inning, do you bring him back out next inning?  I might think so.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not after
100 plus pitches. He's gassed. Bring in the pen...just not Kline or Julio.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buerle ejected!
Hitting BJ Surhoff, after Cabrera hit Perzinsky (spelled wrong, I know).

by BrianS on Aug 1, 2005 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

50?
So much for 50 straight starts going 6 IP or more.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At work
Can't watch, was it intentional? No warning first?

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Danny hit Piersynski last inning...
tied 1-1, that led to the Sox scoring the go-ahead run.

Sosa gets on base w/2 outs, and Buerle plunks Surhoff in the back, tossed immediately.  No previous warning for Buerle, no warning for Cabrera (or last night, when Todd hit Shinjo).

Granted, Buerle has great control and Cabrera, to be sure, doesn't.  

by BrianS on Aug 1, 2005 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buehrle
Sorry, I can't spell anyone's name right.

by BrianS on Aug 1, 2005 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HORRIBLE!
That was an awful ejection.  Buehrle doesn't throw at hitters.  Not to mention with no warnings it is hardly an appropriate tossing.  Oh well...Mark will still get the win.

Sorry guys, I'm a Sox fan first.

by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 1, 2005 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if
he was throwing at him intentionally...there were NO warnings.

by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 1, 2005 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ass?
For what?  Commenting on a baseball game?

by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 1, 2005 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not you.
That was a re: to Sox guy up there.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am...
the Sox guy up there.

by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 1, 2005 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh..
well sorry, that was supposed to have a lol under it anyway.  Us as O's fans are quite angry today.  I apologize.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol
It's cool.  I was trying to spark a little conversation I guess.  Not to mention that when my friends originally told me about it they made a big point of it being accidental.  Now I hear it was and that he was getting high-fives.

Gotta say...thats why I love this team.  Buehrle just ended his crazy streak of going 6+ innings to execute a revenge beaning.

But I am an O's fan also and its been odd to watch things get kind of out of hand since that hot start.  Very odd indeed.

by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 1, 2005 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look out, Brent.
We're collectively having some roid rage right now.

I like Buehrle, but it was obviously intentional, and understandable given all the hit batsman in this series.  Buehrle has good control, and look at the high fives he got in the dugout.  I don't think Cabrera intentionally hit AJ, because he has a history of control problems and wasn't in a situation where he'd want to hit anyone.

 

by BrianS on Aug 1, 2005 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm at work
So...I gotta say I didn't see it.  Just hearing from friends.  Now it sounds like it may have been intentional.  What I was getting at by "doesn't hit batters intentionally" is that he doesn't have a rep where you would toss him for one instance where there have been no warnings.

by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 1, 2005 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, clear the benches.
Maybe a good brawl will  put some life back in this team.

Is Raffy still allowed to fight?

by BrianS on Aug 1, 2005 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Last night
I said that last night... for no apparent reason I wanted a fight last night.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little off subject and a little late but
How can half of your lineup be...
  1. S Sosa, DH  
  2. B Surhoff, RF  
  3. C Gomez, 1B  
  4. D Newhan, CF
and still be expected to compete
A has been, too old to continue, the last choice of the bench players, and a minor league player.

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kinda like...
Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, that was my front office pick
Either they play or they run the team. They can't do both. Or can they?

by drj on Aug 1, 2005 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get used to it
You're goping to be using that phrase alot in the next few weeks
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we're just a Konerko dinger away from
another blow out. Gotta love this bullpen.Thety're almost as good as the position players.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch out team ERA
Here comes Jorge
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Konerko...
Just swung at a ball and popped out. We still have a slight breath of life
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jorge
Why were teams interested in Julio

by smokinjoeo on Aug 1, 2005 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We need to
bring up Rakers and never, ever play Jorge again.

This is ridiculous.

by CStoneNo37 on Aug 1, 2005 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He is the absolute worst
I repeat...MAZILLI SHOULD BE FIRED TODAY
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...
because that might make it look like Angelos wants to win... and we ALL know better than that.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dontcha love our bullpen....
Come in in the 7th with the score 2-1, and now it's on to the bottom of the 7th trailing 6-1. Somebody just shoot me. I can't take this anymore.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh....
the thorough pounding we all expected...  We need a tourniquet.  Quite literally need to stop the bleeding.  Where's the fork, this team is done.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, for the first 3-7/9 games of this series....
We have been outscored 31-13. The best vs. the worst. I have never ever in all of my years as a baseball fan seen a collpase like this. This is equal to the '64 Phillies. I think they were 7 up with 8 to play and blew the pennant.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A four game sweep
IF Angelos has not intention of keeping Mazzilli he should fire him now.  Pete, it will look good for you, like you want to win.
He should also fire the GM duo and name himself as GM/Coach.  Pete, think what it will do for your ego. The first owner/GM/Coach ever.

GO PETE GO!

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny
As funny as that may seem... it's a terrible joke... It's like joking about a car accident.  One of those "careful what you wish for" moments.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not go all the way...
And claim a roster spot, too?!  Has there been a player/manager since Rose?

by DurhamO on Aug 1, 2005 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sosa comes up with Javy on third...
And one out. Never takes the bat off of his shoulder, and strikes out looking.Go figure.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way he litigates...
It would interesting to see him argue with an umpire. Problem there is that ther's no judge to object to!
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!
oh yea...the tying run....

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bats
Team LOB: 10 so far today
Team LOB: 12
Team LOB: 5 almost won
Team LOB: 9
Team LOB: 10
Team LOB: 16 and we scored 8 runs.
Seems like we can't hit when we need to or could it be half our lineup should not even be playing on a major league team.

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind
They play just well enough to keep us interested, but in the end, the result is the same.  When will we learn?

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

October 3rd
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Appears
that Mr. Ryan he decided to join us again.  Way to go BJ.  You know a 12 game win streak wouldn't hurt right now.  We did it last year of course it was followed by a 13 game losing streak, but I have a selective memory.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

9th
Byrnes Double, Mora Single-Byrnes to third, Miggy 2RBI Double, Javy ground out to the right side-Miggy to 3rd, Sammy Popout to Third, and Gibbons Homerun Robbed.  Game over.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was that a dream...or is my gameday that sloooooow
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the way it really ended is
A hell of a lot more appropriate to see. The new guy gets a leadoff hit off the closer, then our two best players strike out and GIDP. That is a fitting way to end a dreadful day in O's fandom. Time to start consuming mass quantities.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts too
The O's GIDP once again, we are leading the league right.
Still have 1 hour, prior to consuming, but it will commence....Another Great Day in Oriole land.
So PROUD

by DR common on Aug 1, 2005 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes
"Time to start consuming mass quantities."

Best thing I've heard all day. Still got an hour and 40 minutes more of work ... ugh.

by CStoneNo37 on Aug 1, 2005 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a homestand!
1-7 on your home turf.  Can't wait to get back on that sweet road.  I hear Disneyland is nice this time of year....

by DurhamO on Aug 1, 2005 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad...
Goofy ain't startin for the Halos tomorrow. Now there's a pitcher we could hit...maybe!
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wait
Next homestand we get to get swept by none other than the...  D-Rays again.  You're not going to hold out last place on US!!! Go <font color="orange">Orange</font> and BLACK.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well
that didn't work out like I had planned... big surprise-the life of an O's fan.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!
that is too funny

by zknower on Aug 1, 2005 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait...
I know what happened...  Pontoon ate all the Crabcakes, and Crab soup in Maryland--  His teammates are now famined...  maybe LA has something he won't like.

Nah, not likely.

by dayzd toe on Aug 1, 2005 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last I heard....
Shamu was on a a strict see food diet.
"What's my secret for winning? That's easy. Pitching, defense, and three run homers" Earl Weaver

by elktonfan on Aug 1, 2005 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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