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Source: ESPN/NY Times

Rafael Palmeiro tested positive for the potent anabolic steroid stanozolol, the same substance Olympic sprinter Ben Johnson of Canada took in 1988, The New York Times reported on its Web site Tuesday night.

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"It's a mildly strong to strong steroid," Dr. Gary Wadler, a professor at New York University and an expert in sports doping, told the newspaper. "Potent is the word I would use."

So, there you have it.

Update:

The first comment asks a good question: Can this be ingested accidentally?

From my very brief research, it wouldn't appear that there's a very good case for that. I am no expert, so if I'm wrong, please correct me.

From this page:

Stanozolol is one of several synthetic versions of the steroid hormone testosterone. Like testosterone, these drugs promote signs of masculinity (their androgenic effect) and increased synthesis of muscle proteins (their anabolic effect). Used in the past to treat a handful of medical conditions--anemia and breast cancer among them--steroids are used by professional and amateur athletes alike, all looking to build muscle tissue easily.

There is apparently a "cyclodextrin injectable" known as Stana-Plex that contains stanozolol, but that would be no accident.

Basically, this wouldn't appear to be an accident as best I can tell. I will try to find out more, but again if you are more knowledgable than I am (which wouldn't take much), please comment.

There is an old interview at Baseball Prospectus from 2001, in which Gary Huckaby speaks with a former MLB trainer about steroids. When asked what steroids are most common, he says, "There's a lot of Stanozolol."

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Begs the question
can one ingest this without knowing it?

by Jonny Action on Aug 3, 2005 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Another question....
would be how long can this substance stay in the body and still show up in a urine sample...a month? a year? two years?

by rebop on Aug 3, 2005 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

that IS a good question
And here is the answer:

oral: 3 weeks
injectable: 2 months

"I think there should be bad blood between all clubs." - Earl Weaver

by Scott Christ on Aug 3, 2005 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Follow up question....
can the urine test distinguish between the oral and injectable varieties, or are they indistinguishable?

At least this gets Raffy off the hook on any possible perjury charges. Even though I am dissapointed with him, I do not wish him any ill. I still basically like the guy.

by rebop on Aug 3, 2005 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind...
it's irrelevant. From the The Baltimore Sun:
"If it's stanozolol, this was a deliberate act," said Gary Wadler, a Long Island doctor who is one of the world's foremost authorities on steroids. "The likelihood of sabotage is remote and improbable, and to suggest as much would be to send people on a wild goose chase."

Palmeiro just does not have any plausible deniability here. I wish (for his sake as much as anything) he would just drop the act and come clean.

by rebop on Aug 3, 2005 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Committee members want more info
According to the Times article, the steroid committee members want to know the precidse conditions surrounding the testing.
"Rafael was able to connect with Chairman Davis late this afternoon and assured him he will cooperate fully and provide his committee with any information it requests," Palmeiro's agent, Arn Tellem, said in a statement.

Yesterday, Davis and [ranking Democrat] Waxman were considering sending two letters, one to Major League Baseball asking for all of the specifics on the Palmeiro testing, another to Palmeiro asking him to cooperate in releasing that information. A final decision on the letters had not been made as of yesterday evening, a committee staff member said.

Maybe they want to know the conditions of his ingestion? It seems there's obviously some detail which hasn't come out yet. And I doubt it's something like "my friend gave me a headache pill and it turned out to be a steroid".

Palmeiro is really being vilified all over the press. Yet I have this gut feeling there is a plausible explanation for how he took it accidentally.

Time will tell, I imagine.

by zknower on Aug 3, 2005 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

If he's telling the truth,
and he somehow, impossibly, did take the steroid accidently or unknowingly, he needs to come clean with it now.

He'll look like an idiot, but it's better than the liar he's perceived to be now.

by BrianS on Aug 3, 2005 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

to post some things I posted in the diaries:
I posted a couple comments in zknower's diary post about this issue that I wanted to put here, too:

I'm trying to give Raffy the benefit of the doubt. It could very well be (and in my heart of hearts, I truly believe it is) a hard steroid. I'm just saying that, as someone who's been in situations covering stories where someone is telling you things and just trying to get an agenda across (and who has taken classes in which I've seen countless examples of this sort of thing), there are a couple of huge dangers with a story like this.

First, if someone really wants to get something to the media, they won't have too hard a time doing it, and if you're not constantly watching yourself, you will end up someone's stooge.

Second, the reporter doesn't know the inner workings of Major League Baseball all that well, and someone could throw some meaningless but important-sounding title at them (like Vice President of Facilities Management or some crap) but they don't want to be named, so the next thing you know they are a "high-ranking MLB source," when really they are just some supervisor somewhere that has no real connection or inside knowledge on the specific issue at hand.

As for the other papers picking it up, this happens all the time. One paper reports something, then everyone else reports that "The New York Times reported..." It's one of those things that your ombudsman tells you that you shouldn't be doing, but everyone does it every day anyway because you might get caught in a bad situation one out of 500 times (see the 2000 Presidential Election coverage with Florida going to Gore).

My reasoning for questioning the source: What moron "high-up" in MLB would be stupid enough to risk the s--t storm that would come with breaking the confidentiality agreement? Palmeiro could potentially now sue Major League Baseball (as ridiculous as that sounds), and I'd be SHOCKED if the Players Union doesn't raise a fuss.

Honestly, as I said, I think Raffy probably was bent over in the hotel getting his wife to jab him in the butt with a needle full of the Canseco special (as much as I don't want to believe it). But I think there is some reason to doubt the validity of these reports in particular.

That's not to say I really think they are false, just that there are a few reasons they COULD be false. Maybe a 5 or 10% chance.

by CStoneNo37 on Aug 3, 2005 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

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