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So this is it

The Baltimore Orioles are limping their way to the golf courses having lost 13 of their last 15 games, and going 9-19 in September. The O's even went ahead and went 1-7 against New York and 0-3 against Boston in the final week and a half of the year. We'll now finish up with a three-game series at Tampa Bay, and if you can think of a worse place to finish a disaster of a year, I'd love to hear it.

I've said it a lot, but it's certainly been an interesting year in Orioles baseball to cover. Let's look back very briefly.

  • Orioles start the season on fire, getting as much as 14 games over .500 and holding the AL East lead for the better part of the first half.
  • Brian Roberts is arguably the MVP of the American League in the first half of the season.
  • Miguel Tejada wins the All-Star game MVP award.
  • Rafael Palmeiro's drive for 3,000 hits is completed in Seattle just after the All-Star break.
  • Erik Bedard? Erik freaking Bedard!
  • Bedard got hurt.
  • Palmeiro tested positive for steroids, igniting a tornado-like storm of garbage around a team that was falling apart anyway. He was then told to go home after accusing Miguel Tejada of giving him steroids.
  • Tejada...well, Miggy's Miggy.
  • Roberts hit .270/.351/.419 in the second half - not bad, but that followed a .345/.416/.591 first half. He also tanked badly in July and August before recovering in September, then his season was ended early when Bubba Crosby railroaded him.
  • The Orioles are 17 games under .500.
We had Sammy Sosa this year. I'm sure he'd like to forget it as much as we would. Sosa's one Oriole season was an unquestionable flop.

Sidney Ponson continued being Sidney Ponson, except he was actually worse. He's now sitting at home.

Basically, at some point, almost every key member of this team was injured. The exceptions were Tejada and Bruce Chen, and I guess Roberts' injury happened once it didn't matter anymore.

The good to take out of this? Bruce Chen had a nice season and will, fittingly I think, get to take the ball for the O's season closer on Sunday. Brian Roberts is a bona fide major leaguer if not a superstar or even a star. Miguel Tejada is still good. Chris Ray could be closing as soon as next season if BJ Ryan doesn't come back (and why would he?). Daniel Cabrera and Bedard showed marked improvement. BJ Surhoff will probably retire.

This offseason should be an interesting one for us, too. Who will be the manager? Will Flanagan and/or Beattie return? Are the Orioles going to do more than "patch up" holes with mediocre veterans? WILL THEY SIGN A DECENT DAMN STARTING PITCHER ALREADY?

The Orioles are 71-88. Lose two to Tampa, and it's another 90-loss season. Even if they sweep, they still lost 88 games again. If they do lose 90, however, it will mark the fourth time in five years the Orioles have done that. The last time that happened was when the franchise lost 90-plus games every year from 1947 to 1955, and they were only in Baltimore in '54 and '55.

It's the eighth straight losing season for the O's, the third-longest streak in franchise history.

Browns, thirteen seasons (1930-1942)
Browns/Orioles, eleven seasons (1946-1953, 1954-1956)
Orioles, eight seasons (1998-2005)

We're witnessing a historically futile time in the history of the Baltimore Orioles. As far as just the Baltimore Orioles part of the history goes, this is the worst run ever.

Some of you guys have been debating what's really wrong with the Orioles lately. Angelos? Flanagan and Beattie? The managers? The coaches? The scouting? The players?

The answer is all of the above. Just about everything is wrong with the Baltimore Orioles. There are bright spots, but the Royals had Mike Sweeney and Carlos Beltran on the same team for years and no one would have argued that the Royals were doing anything right. The Orioles are one of the worst franchises in Major League Baseball. I say this not with hate but with regret.

Something has got to change. In fact, a lot has to change, and it would start, in my opinion, with hiring a general manager that has some ideas, a Beane or Epstein type. They are basically of the same mindset, but Theo has more money to play with. If you don't think Theo Epstein could find a way to build a decent team on as much money as the Orioles spend on players, think again. And Billy Beane would have a field day with the Orioles' money.

Those guys don't just fall off of trees or anything, but they're not impossible to find either. You just might have to look a little harder than asking an old lefty and the guy whose name was in the circle you hit on the ex-GM dartboard to run the team. And you also might have to look harder than just calling Brian Cashman.

Three more games to go. The times that this season was enjoyable to watch seem like eons ago at this point. I'll miss Orioles baseball, as I always do, but I'm glad this is ending.

Let's go, O's.

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Hope rebirth for next year, again
I've missed Oriole's baseball for the past 8 years, I'm glad this year is ending but just as quickly I'll get excited about them and the "potential" for next year.

Let's go, O's have a good offseason, and stop this nonsense.  The team and Baltimore are special!

by DR common on Sep 30, 2005 9:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hire a GM and get out of the way!
I posted this in another thread, but it's appropriate here.

Yes, we've posted on this before. There is no vision or leadership to dismantle and rebuild a winning club. I interpret Peter Angelos' comment about "coming back strong next year" to mean the O's plan to spend on some free agents and hope for a quick "turn around". I'm not looking for another Sammy Sosa-like circus show. Not that it amounted to anything - and that's the point! I'd like to see them dismantle the current crop of AAA players and start stocking up on potential. Sadly, as we've mentioned before, we have no reason to believe they have the organization to execute such a drastic plan.

We had a recent thread on the need for a strong GM. If Peter Angelos does ONE thing when the season ends, I'd want it to be hiring a strong GM who is given the leeway to reshape the club. I'll take a few more losing seasons if I saw some young hosses coming into the organization and the prospect of a future. Either that or sell the club to a baseball savvy group with the money and dedication to win in Baltimore (I always have to throw that in).

NOw teh hard question. Who should that GM be?

"A manager's job is simple. For one hundred sixty-two games you try not to screw up all that smart stuff your organization did last December." Earl Weaver

by drj on Sep 30, 2005 9:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who to hire?
beats the hell out of me.  brian cashman is the best available name and we've already debated the merits of him.  when the sox hired theo he was young, unknown but everybody said he was star waiting to happen.  hopefully we could pull the same thing.  although when we hired flanagan everybody said he was star waiting to happen but he was completely inexperienced.  well after two of flanagan, i don't have any clue why people were saying such high things about him.  

by birdman on Sep 30, 2005 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because it sounded good at the time
Avoid the rhubarb, hurl it whitewash and have 'em wearing the old golden sombrero! Crackerjack, boys, crackerjack!

by SC on Sep 30, 2005 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: Flanny
same reason we signed Shamu... twice. (Oh, he's got GREAT potential, just give him a couple years and he'll be dominant and we'll be back on top)  Appearances my friend, appearances.  They feed us all this bull-hooey and make us think that maybe the FO is actually doing something worth doing only to have the truth shown to us in atrocious season after atrocious season.  But we still, and will most likely continue to buy into it.  Damn, I hate my Birds.

by dayzd toe on Sep 30, 2005 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Hire one G.M. who handles all baseball affairs.
this  new G.M. must be given the authority
to select his manager & the manager must be allowed to hire his own coaches.

Once this is done the Manager & coaches must
be able the make his choices of who he keeps
or trades or releases. Angelos should step
out of the way & let his baseball people make
out his roster.

Tejada,Roberts, Mora,Javy Lopez,Gibbons, Matos
would make a core of players to start with.
B.J.Ryan,Chris Ray,Bruce Chen,Daniel Cabrera
Rodrigo lopez ,Todd Williams W/Gomez as the super sub.thats 13 players off this yrs, squad
& in my opinion the rest are expendable.

But of course Peter Angelos will never consent
to give up his power so this all conjecture or
B.S.whatever,I hope they soon do something
positive cause I,m damn near 72 & I,d love
to see one more winning team before I check out.

Thanks to a good Blog to post my thoughts on.
the posters here at the Camden chat are good
fans.

by hagersbush on Oct 1, 2005 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothin...
but I seriously felt like crying when reading that post. The Orioles hurt me.

p.s. If you aren't aware, the subject is an Orgazmo reference.

by CStoneNo37 on Sep 30, 2005 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Roberts got hurt earlier in the season
So, ya, that's pretty much everybody.

Also, don't forget about screwing the fans around with the Burnett non-deal.

by GrimReefa on Sep 30, 2005 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dismal.
After each season of the 8-year losing streak I somehow convince myself that the Orioles will be better the next year.  2003 was easy.  "Oh yeah, we signed Tejada and Lopez, and Ponson is back after his BEST YEAR EVER!!"  

Even this year "Yankees and Red Sox are older, Bedard and Cabrera should be a little better, Chen might be the real deal, Tejada and Lopez are still awesome and even Sosa should help even if he's average.  Woo hoo over .500"

Barring significant offseason changes to both the front office and the team, I don't think I'll be able to psych myself up for next year at all.  And since the O's won't get that hot start next year, in all likelihood, they'll probably be even worse.

Thanks, Peter.

Football is great.

by BrianS on Sep 30, 2005 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can lightning strike twice?
Here's an interesting/fun read about the early O's and creating a winner: 'Reckless' Richards cracks open O's coffers.
"A manager's job is simple. For one hundred sixty-two games you try not to screw up all that smart stuff your organization did last December." Earl Weaver

by drj on Sep 30, 2005 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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