A Bit of a Blast from the Past
So, god help me, I was bored, and ran a google search of "Syd Thrift". Among other things, I found this fun little article from the Baltimore city paper circa 2001.
It's a pretty well written article, with a sort of "we may as well make the best with what we have" attitude. But the BEST part is to point and laugh (at the state of the franchise in 2001? at how things look only slightly rosier today?) at the list of prospective "future Orioles":
Your 2003 Baltimore Orioles
If all goes according to plan, the 2003 O's will bear only a passing resemblance to the current (mike's note - 2001) edition:
Starters: The strength of the 2003 squad will probably be its rotation, which might include anyone from a 35-year-old Scott Erickson, back from arm surgery, to fireballing 21-year-old lefty Richard Stahl. Potential ace righty Beau Hale will be 24, crafty Aussie righty John Stephens will be 22, and surgically rebuilt lefty hotshot Matt Riley will be 23. Incumbent righty workhorse Sidney Ponson will be 26. The list goes on.
Closer: Jorge Julio Preseason acquisition got lit up in brief Birds debut earlier this year, but with additional minor-league seasoning and maturity (he'll be 24 in 2003) the cannon-armed righty projects as the closer of the future, assuming current Oriole Ryan Kohlmeier's troubles continue.
C: Octavio Martinez (mike's note -????) Brooks Robinson Award winner (as the team's top minor leaguer last year) batted .330 in first two minor-league seasons and is currently calling pitches for a dominant Frederick staff. He'll be 23 in 2003.
1B:David Segui Veteran switch-hitter will be 37 and in third year of four-year contract. Tall, hard- hitting lefty Rick Elder, now with Single-A Delmarva and 23 in 2003, may see action.
2B: Jerry Hairston Jr. Defensive whiz and fan favorite will be 26 years old. "He'll be an All-Star," predicts Syd Thrift, the O's vice president of baseball operations.
SS: Ed Rogers "He's the smoothest shortstop I've seen, ever," Bowie manager Dave Machemer says. If Rogers, who will only be 21 on Opening Day 2003, isn't ready, look for a 25-year-old Brian Roberts to replace Mike Bordick.
3B: Jose Leon Cal Ripken Jr. will--presumably--be retired in 2003. Decent-hitting prospect Leon, 26 that year, is at the front of a line that also includes Napolean Calzado (who'll be 23) and a horde of young middle infielders blocked by Hairston and Rogers.
RF: Chris Richard Versatile hitter is shaping up as the prize of the O's July 2000 swap meet. He'll be 28.
CF:Luis Matos (mike's note- BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!) Standout defender will be 24, and more ready for major-league pitching than he was at age 21 last season (.225 average, 1 home run).
LF: Larry Bigbie Well-regarded prospect will be 25 and should be part of a deep mix of players challenging veterans for time in the outfield. Tim Raines Jr.--who "has all the tools in the world," Machemer raves--will be 23 and could end up in any outfield slot. Top-rated prospect Keith Reed will be 24, as will hard-hitting Raymond Cabrera.
DH: Jay Gibbons Lefty slugger, picked up from Toronto in Rule V draft this year, will be 26 in 2003 and is the most likely candidate to be crushing the ball by then. There's no reason why Calvin Pickering, who'll also be 26, shouldn't be murdering major-league pitching in '03--but since the O's don't seem to like him, he'll probably be doing it for some other team.
There is just so much to reminisce about here. I don't know where to start.
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Wow...
Rick Dempsey is the Paris Hilton of Sportsbroadcasting.
by dayzd toe on Oct 17, 2007 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my fave...
Where'd they all go?
Rick Dempsey is the Paris Hilton of Sportsbroadcasting.
by dayzd toe on Oct 17, 2007 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious.
"He'll be an All-Star," predicts Syd Thrift, the O's vice president of baseball operations. -regarding Jerry Hairston.

It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB
by zknower on Oct 17, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the really scary thing:
Friend of the Working Man
by Jonnypops on Oct 17, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but who the hell is
I'd never even heard of him. At least the perennial late-90s early-aughts Oriole-kool-aid dispenser made sure I heard about everyone else on this list.
by Chanumas on Oct 17, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess one good takeaway from this is....
The O's are a LOT like Germany in the late-19th and early 20th century (I'm about to get all Godwinny here...and am VERY loose with historical dates and facts, so be forewarned):
1992-97 Orioles = The Franco-Prussian War, the highlight of the Kaiser's rule
Both the O's and Germany are riding fairly high. Filled with history (and mercenaries), both entities make strong showings on the world stage.
1998-99 Orioles = World War I
Like Germany's strong start in the war to end all wars, the O's go 11-2 to start 1998. Both campaigns degrade into abject and humiliating failure.
The ascension of Syd Thrift to GM = The signing of the Treaty of Versailles
For both the baseball team and former world power, these events mark the beginning of a descent into the worst of hells.
Syd Thrift's 2000-2003 Orioles = Depression-era Germany
Suddenly, rampant inflation and incompetent administration turn once-proud entities into third-world organizations. It's because of these sorry states of affairs that both the O's and Germany deign to make awful Faustian bargains, resulting in.....
Orioles' acquisition of Sammy Sosa, Raphael Palmeiro and Jason Grimsley, the ascent of Sidney Ponson as team "ace" = The initial rise of Adolph Hitler
They seemed pretty innocent at the time, but....
2005-2007 Orioles = World War II
Things start VERY VERY well (first place in July 2005), and there is a rush of team and/or nationalistic pride. All of this success is on the backs of some truly abominable actions (the roids and loutishness of some of the O's, the....uh.....you know what...by the Germans).
Disastrous 2007 Season = The Bombing of Dresden, the suicide of Hitler
Finally, even the tried and true realize how awful things had gotten, and had reached rock bottom. All that is left is to renounce the reprehensible recent past, and begin the process of a Marshall (or MacPhail) plan to rebuild.
by Chanumas on Oct 17, 2007 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So 2008 is the Berlin Air Lift?
by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Oct 17, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My fellow O's fans: I have nothing to offer but...
You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: Victory. Victory at all costs -- Victory in spite of all terror [in the form of visiting goombahs from NY and Fenway] -- Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival."
"What [Syd Thrift] called the Battle of [Stupid Acquisitions] is over. I expect that the Battle of [Actual Rebuilding] is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of [Oriole] civilization. Upon it depends our own [Camden Chat] life, and the long continuity of our institutions and our [OPACY] Empire.
The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. [$teinbr--n-r and the Sawx] know that they will have to break us in this [park and website] or lose the war. If we can stand up to them, all [the AL East] may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands.
But if we fail, then the whole world, including [the rest of MLB], all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the [Oriole] Empire, [Camden Chat and all Oriole fandom] last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."
by Titov on Oct 18, 2007 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, Titov...
Our allusions seem to point the team to completely opposite sides of Dubya Dubya Two, but it absolutely works.
by Chanumas on Oct 18, 2007 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it's time to try stuff WAY outside
I hope other people join us in this Great Crusade: Metaphors for Victory in '08! C'mon, bring us your tired, your poor, your wretched metaphoric refuse yearning to breathe free!
"Gentlemen may cry, Third place, Third place-- but there is no third place...Why stand we here idle? What is it that the [Warehouse] gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is [their] life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of [trash relievers]? Forbid it, Almighty [Pete]! I know not what course other [O's fans] may take; but as for me, give me [rebuilding] or give me death!"
by Titov on Oct 18, 2007 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
by SC on Oct 17, 2007 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was one of two
Sort of like Gil.
by timg56 on Oct 22, 2007 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might be interested to know
by Stacey on Oct 17, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The fact that that guy won our
by Chanumas on Oct 17, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yipes. Just yipes.
Oh, wait, it's the O's. Of course.
by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Oct 18, 2007 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
best O's prospect
by birdman on Oct 17, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aw, thanks for reminding me...
by jq higgins on Oct 17, 2007 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW!!! Syd! Sid! Syd! Sid! LOL! Then puke OL...
Ah, memories. It's so great to laugh at how bad we sucked. Boy is 2007 going ot be forking HIlARIOUS five years from now. I can't wait!
by Titov on Oct 18, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, 2001 was a TERRIBLE year
C - Brook Fordyce, backed up by Fernando Lunar
1B - Jeff Conine & David Segui
2B - Jerry Hairston
SS - A revolving door with Mike Bordick, B.Rob, Melvin...even Tony Batista spent 20 games here
3B - Cal, in his "'73 Willie Mays" year
OF - A cast of true All-Star, led by Mr. Mora, Brady Anderson and his .202 average and Chris Richard
DH - 13 guys DHed, including World Series-bound Casey Blake
Starting rotation - truly nightmarish, with Pat Hentgen as the lead through May ('til he went down with some injury), and Jason Johnson leading the staff with 197 innings. What is worse in life, Calvin Maduro & Willis Roberts in your rotation, or the Victors Zambrano & Santos?
Bullpen - Buddy Groom & Mike Trombley? That makes me want to punch myself in the face.
At least I can find some positives about 2007. I can't find anything about 2001 worth remembering.
by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Oct 18, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL, a Bob Dylan relief corps!
Well, I looked at my watch
I looked at my wrist
I punched myself in the face
With my fist
I took my potatoes
Down to be mashed
Then I made it on over
To that million dollar bash
Ooh, baby, ooh-ee
Ooh, baby, ooh-ee
It's that million dollar bash.
********************
2001 was funny all right, but now the bullpen is a $42 Million Dollar Bash. Funny? It's a frickin' scream!
by Titov on Oct 18, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had forgotten we had Blake
by timg56 on Oct 22, 2007 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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