Yankees ready to include Hughes in Santana deal
ESPNews is reporting this like it's really close to being a done deal, given that Santana and the Yankees can work out an extension. It would be Hughes, Melky Cabrera and a third player for Santana.
It would be a monster pickup for the Yankees. I can't really say anything more than that. The Yankees are the World Series contenders of old if they add Johan Santana.
He's dominant, he's in his prime, and he's going to be a No. 1 for a long time. Chien-Ming Wang is a good pitcher, but they need that shutdown ace. Santana is definitely that guy.
I never wanted to hate you, Johan.
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Guh.
Sure, both figure to improve, but improve to what? They're both starting in a hole.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 1, 2007 9:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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Losing Hunter and Santana is a formality. You can do worse than replacing them with Phil Hughes, Delmon Young and Melky Cabrera. It's the nature of the beast for a team run like Minnesota's -- you have to be willing to let go and take a risk.
Oakland is a case in point. Sometimes it works out (Mulder -> Haren/Calero/Blanton), sometimes it doesn't (Tejada walks, Crosby is no worthwhile replacement).
Melky is 23, Young is 22, Hughes is 22. With Melky, you get a guy who can handle center field and should be able to give league average offense soon enough, and Young will almost certainly capably replace Hunter's bat. There are definitely worse guys than Philip Hughes to gamble on to replace Santana. Not many 21-year olds throw 70 league average innings as a starter.
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by SC on Dec 1, 2007 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose, sadly...
Hughes is obviously a good piece of a deal. Still, I guess why I cry and rail about this deal is that it seems to me to lower the possible asking price for Bedard. If Santana, granted only under contract for a year, can only get this much, Bedard might not fetch the Kemp/Kershaw/other pitcher I can't remember or Wood/Adenhart+1 deal from LAD or LAA.
On the bright side, at least we can't trade Bedard for Melky now. We already have one overrated Cabrera.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 1, 2007 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Thanks for the time that you've given me...
by SC on Dec 1, 2007 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mulder....
by jq higgins on Dec 1, 2007 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh I didn't even know I put Blanton
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by SC on Dec 1, 2007 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably a minority view but
by Sluggo on Dec 1, 2007 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As much as I've come to dislike the Red Sox
Plus, once I move out of Boston (this summer!), I'll go back to tolerating the Pink Hats.
by exitfare on Dec 1, 2007 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also share this view
Can you guys imagine Santana without the goatee? I can't. I guess we'll see it soon enough.
by PhilR8 on Dec 1, 2007 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are no sure things
Maybe he becomes the next Andy Pettitte.
Then again, maybe he becomes the next Carl Pavano.
Santana will take a 5-6 year deal to land. To get him, the Yankees will mortgage Hughes?
Fine by me. We're not going to contend for at least two years. Two years from now, I'd rather face the 31 year old Santana (and hope he wilts in the NY glare in the meantime) than the 25 year old Hughes, who has already proven he can pitch under the big lights.

It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB
by zknower on Dec 1, 2007 12:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
why are the yankees
by birdman on Dec 1, 2007 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Without Cabrera
by crawjo on Dec 1, 2007 4:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
4 Words
Friend of the Working Man
by Jonnypops on Dec 1, 2007 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm having a party
Friend of the Working Man
by Jonnypops on Dec 1, 2007 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Santana to Yankees
by NHZ on Dec 1, 2007 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Of course in 6 years
by Sluggo on Dec 2, 2007 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot can happen in six years.
by NHZ on Dec 5, 2007 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Kielty
and he can't be any worse than Eric Byrnes was...
by Born Under a Bad Moon on Dec 1, 2007 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You do NOT want Bobby Kielty on your team
by NHZ on Dec 1, 2007 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Two statements that do not apply to Bobby Kielty.
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by SC on Dec 2, 2007 7:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WORLD SERIES WINNING DONG
I myself am not that concerned if Santana goes to the Yankees. They got A-Rod! They got Randy Johnson! Who gives a f. They ain't won balls!
by Awesome Mike Awesome on Dec 2, 2007 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It ain't...
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 2, 2007 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
baltimore sun
by birdman on Dec 2, 2007 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Even assuming...
Speaking of Roberts, are we only not trading him because Grumpy Pete wants to keep his favorite lil' 2B? Roberts isn't going to sign long term here (I don't blame him)and I like him enough to want to see him play for a winner. Ah well. Compensatory pick, here we come.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 2, 2007 5:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Santana
Beats me, I never said acquiring Santana was a panacea. It would be great start though.
"Where are we going to get players like that for Tejada and Roberts?"
Not sure, but that's not the point. Instead of thinking this can't be done, I would rather see why not thinking.
by birdman on Dec 2, 2007 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would much rather see...
I think MacPhail is trying to do the right things (get young, shed payroll, acquire lots of positional prospects) I'm just not sure if he's going to be allowed to do it, or if we can really get anything all that valuable for Tejada.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 2, 2007 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
santana
You can do both. Acquire young cheap players and complement them with expensive vets in their prime. Actually, MacPhail BETTER do both if he hopes to succeed.
In any case, this just in from the Post.
[i]Perhaps the best of those is left-hander Erik Bedard of the Baltimore Orioles, who is definitely available now that, according to league sources, he has informed the team he has no interest in signing an extension to stay in Baltimore beyond 2009, when he hits free agency.[/i]
This might be top shelf news but this just blows.
by birdman on Dec 2, 2007 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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