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My holiday wish list for the Orioles

I celebrate Christmas -- in fact, I love it. Sure, I go broke every year buying crap for family, my girlfriend, and my friends (and, uh, gifts from me to me, let's be honest), but it's a good time. Children laughing, people passing, meeting smile after smile. (For the record, Dean Martin's version of "Silver Bells" that is on Christmas with The Rat Pack is my favorite Christmas song ever recorded, and I'm way into Christmas music. Other superb notables: Otis Redding's "White Christmas," Sinatra's heartbreaking "I'll Be Home for Christmas," and Bobby Darin's "Christmas Auld Lang Syne." But I could go on. I won't.)

In the spirit of the season, I figured I'd share some of my wishes for our beloved Baltimore Orioles. Add your own. And first off, I thought it was nice of Andy MacPhail to give us an early present by shipping Miggi to Houston.

1. Trade Erik Bedard
Some of youse guys ands gals have expressed regret that you, too, wish for this to happen. I hear ya; I feel what you're getting at. But, I can't say as though it much pains me. As great as he was this year and as good as he was in 2006, I've never gotten attached to Bedard beyond just thinking he's awesome and being thankful that every fifth day or so, he'd give me a reason to watch the Orioles.

It's probably because I was pretty sure this was bound to happen if he got good, as I didn't expect the team around him to be good. He's as valuable as he's going to get, with his durability at what may well be its peak, the pitching market thin and friendly to the seller, and the fact that he would've led the American League in strikeouts and been a legit Cy Young contender this season had he not gone down with his umpteenth nagging injury.

Yeah, he's good, and I like him. But he's outta here the first chance he gets to make that decision for himself anyway. Trade him now, don't dick around about it.

2. Trade Brian Roberts, Melvin Mora and Ramon Hernandez, Jay Payton and Aubrey Huff
Another thing peeps has been sayin' here: If we're gonna suck even worse than usual -- and we are -- then let's do it young. Brian Bob is a fan favorite and I'm going to be a supporter of his no matter where he goes. If they traded Roberts to New York or Boston, I would still root for him. I like him that much. There are several teams that could use an All-Star second baseman who gets on base and steals a second one as soon as he's there. And, at 30, his value is also about as high as it'll ever really be.

The other four are just guys that have no place on a rebuilding team, at least one that's serious about rebuilding from the ground floor up. They're all old, they all suck, and frankly, I just don't like any of them. Payton is a member of MLB's All-Douchebag team, and Huff got voted on this offseason, too. (Not that I object to a dude getting drunk and talking shit, but it is stupid to do it on the radio if you're a public figure, and especially if your profession is something you aren't very good at.)

Mora gave us good years, but now he mostly just whines about his legendary playoff heroics and how he knows all about how a bunt is the greatest idea in the history of time. And Ramon is an injury-prone catcher. You aren't going to get much back for Payton, Huff, Mora or Ramon, but fine. Just so long as they aren't stinking up the Yard next season, that's all I care about.

3. FIRE TERRY CROWLEY
This won't happen, but with all the staff changes Trembley made, including firing arguably the greatest pitching coach to ever live, he keeps Terry fuckin' Crowley? This guy hasn't just stunk at his job for years now, he's done so with authority. Someone has got to step in. I don't care if Terry Crowley is the nicest man in the world, he has got to go.

4. Go cheap on the 'pen
Look, the last two Oriole bullpens have been hideous, and this year's was just brutal. Just snag a bunch of guys with healthy arms, maybe a few guys who are about to have healthy arms again, and throw shit on the wall all spring, and find out what sticks. Jamie Walker isn't Billy Wagner or anything, but he and Chad Bradford can anchor the bullpen. No more money spent on Joan Baez. Don't invest in the biggest crapshoot in the game anymore. It's not worth it.

5. Find some way to not have Luis Hernandez, Boom Boom Bynum or Beanpole Brandon starting at shortstop
I want to go young, but I have my limits. Bynum isn't really a shortstop, and the other two just are not major league hitters. They aren't even bad major league hitters. Adam Everett would have been a nice caretaker for a year or so, but the Twins picked him up already. I like Luis, Bynum and Fahey in their own special ways. Starting at shortstop does not compute, though.

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CHRISTMAS TUNES
  1.  Blue Christmas -- Elvis
  2.  I'll Be Home for Christmas -- Sinatra
  3.  Holly Jolly Christmas -- Burl Ives or something
  4.  Jingle Bell Rock -- Bobby Helms I think
  5.  Swiss Colony Beef Log -- Cartman
  6.  Little Drummer Boy -- Angela on the Office
  7.  Baby It's Cold Outside -- Zooey Deschanel and Will Ferrell in Elf
  8.  Santa Claus (Go Straight to the Ghetto) -- James Brown
  9.  Santa Claus is Coming to Town -- Springsteen YOU BEEN PRACTICIN REAL HARD
  10. O Holy Night
Hon. Mention:  Grandma Got Run over by a Reindeer, the only good country Christmas song I can think of

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Dec 21, 2007 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

Oh and
two birds with one stone:  Bedard for Julio Lugo!  Merry Christmas, movie house!

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Dec 21, 2007 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm partial
to the Beach Boys' Little Saint Nick and Santa's Beard!  also, Barenaked Ladies do some fun Christmas tunes as well.
FUCK MASCOT MILLAR and HORSESHIT HUFF

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Dec 21, 2007 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Fire Terry
and hire a TeeBall coach for all I care, I just hate that douche Bag

by merdon1332000 on Dec 21, 2007 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Dear Santa,
Please bring Peter Angelos some humility and common sense.

Please bring Andy MacPhail wisdom, courage and strength.

Please bring Matt Wieters continued health.

Please bring Kevin Millar and Aubrey Huff (if they stay with the team) muzzles.

Please bring Nick Markakis just a little more power.

Please bring Brain Roberts some peace and quiet over the hoildays.

Please bring Dave Trembley some of Earl's genius.

Please bring Jim Hoey some Xantac for the 9th innings this year.

And I've been a real good boy this year.  I would like for the O's to stay out of the basement of the AL East.  Oh, and a shortstop.  THAT would be nice.

Merry Christmas.

FUCK MASCOT MILLAR and HORSESHIT HUFF

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Dec 21, 2007 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

Top 5 Christmas Tunes
  1. Blue Christmas, Elvis Presley
  2. White Christmas, Bing Crosby (didn't see THAT coming, did ya?)
  3. Christmas Eve/Sarajevo 12/24 , Trans-Siberian Orchestra
  4. It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year, Andy Williams (didn't see THAT coming either, did ya?)
  5. Father Christmas, The Kinks
From #5...

Have yourself a merry merry christmas
Have yourself a good time
But remember the kids who got nothin
While youre drinkin down your wine

Father christmas, give us some money
We got no time for your silly toys
Well beat you up if you dont hand it over
We want your bread, so dont make us annoyed
Give all the toys to the little rich boys

Merry Christmas, y'all...

"In my 15 years of baseball, I've never seen anything that no one had any idea of anything that was there." - Drayton McLane, Astros owner.

by duck on Dec 21, 2007 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

Well...
...I favor the other Andy Williams classic, "Happy Holiday / The Holiday Season" for sheer '60s hip cheesiness.

by howie14 on Dec 21, 2007 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

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"I've never gotten attached to Bedard beyond just thinking he's awesome and being thankful that every fifth day or so, he'd give me a reason to watch the Orioles."

I've never gotten attached to a ballplayer on a deeper level than that, and I'm not sure I'd really ever want to....

by GeronimoGil on Dec 21, 2007 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

re:
I mean, basically, that I don't have the same regard for Bedard that I do Brian Roberts, or that I did Mussina.

Thanks for the time that you've given me...

by Scott Christ on Dec 21, 2007 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Part of # 2 sounds like it will happen,
since B-Rob wants to go to Chicago.

My all-time fave Christmas song is Sinatra's version of The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire... off The Christmas Album. Just perfect.


It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB

by zknower on Dec 21, 2007 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

santa says
So, SC, I love your stuff, but you want to get rid of every talented player left on roster, but strangely you want to upgrade to a mid-level veteran at Short Stop.

Hmmm. What's in them Xmas cookies?

by thewaywardO on Dec 21, 2007 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

In fairness
SC didn't say it had to be an FA signing.  I'm sure he'd be happy (as would I) if trading B-Rob or Bedard netted us an actual SS prospect (and if we trade B-Rob, hopefully a 2B prospect as well).  I do think it would be silly to trade all of our mid-level veterans but insist on a playable veteran shortstop.  But I do want to see a team next year that's slightly better than a trainwreck, even if they do suck.  And I'd rather see a guy suck who might not suck in two years, as compared to Fahey/Hernandez/Bynum, who suck now and will suck in perpetuity.

by punkrawka on Dec 21, 2007 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

re:
Here's the deal with Everett -- in theory, since he's off the market. He'd be a one-year stopgap until there's a better way to get a shortstop.

I do think it would be silly to trade all of our mid-level veterans but insist on a playable veteran shortstop.

We have kids like Fiorentino who can do every bit of what Jay Payton did last year, and maybe you get another one back in exchange for Payton or Huff, who are still going to be overvalued on name-ness by someone. Like, you know, the Orioles. Hernandez, Fahey and Bynum are not even as good as Fiorentino.

Thanks for the time that you've given me...

by Scott Christ on Dec 21, 2007 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm surprised
to hear people writing off bynum and l. hernandez so quickly.

fahey and fiorentino ... yes. not so impressive.

by thewaywardO on Dec 21, 2007 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We're writing Luis off...
...too quickly? This is the guy who only recently cracked a .500 OPS in the winter league? That's OPS, as in On Base plus Slugging, BOTH numbers added together...and for a significant part of the season it was UNDER .500. (Career minor league OPS: 621)

That's an OPS, UNDER .500.

We cannot write him off fast enough. There is nothing...NOTHING...he could do with his glove that would make up for the gaping void he would be in the lineup. A six-armed Ozzie Smith couldn't make up for that kind of hitting. (Okay, maybe a six-armed Ozzie Smith could...)

Point is, we cannot write Luis or Bynum off fast enough.

by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 21, 2007 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Christmas songs and O's wishlist
Best Songs:
  1. Up on the Housetop as sung by the Jackson Five
  2. Wrapping Paper by The Waitresses
  3. Baby, It's Cold Outside by Dean Martin. This is actually better than the first two, but loses points because it's not actually a Christmas song. I think Dean makes it as good as it is because I'm not all that fond of other versions of the song.
  4. Pretty much any version of O Holy Night, except Josh Groban because I hate him.
  5. Mary, Did You Know by Kathy Mattea
Worst Songs:
  1. I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus. "Oh What a laugh it would have been, if Daddy would have seen, Mommy kissing Santa Claus last night!" TWISTED.
  2. Grandma Got Runover By a Reindeer.
  3. Little Saint Nick by The Beach Boys.
O's Wishlist:
  1. Players that don't get into physical altercations in the dugout.
  2. To end the season WITHOUT the Major League Leader in losses on our pitching staff (Ahem, Rodrigo Lopez and Daniel Cabrera).
  3. Aubrey Huff to stop jerking off long enough to get in playing shape BEFORE the All Star Break (that's if he's not traded, which I hope he is).
  4. B-Rob gets traded (and I cry a little bit) to a team where he gets to play in the postseason, and the O's get a good return on him. The O's spend the next two seasons getting good, and B-Rob signs back with us as a free agent in 2010.

by Stacey on Dec 21, 2007 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

O Holy Night
Brian Setzer's is great.

Thanks for the time that you've given me...

by Scott Christ on Dec 21, 2007 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't care how trite this is
But Manheim Steamroller's "Carol of the Bells" kicks ass.

by punkrawka on Dec 21, 2007 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

I like Trans-Siberian Orchestra's version
named Christmas Eve / Sarajevo 12/24 - much more of an edge to it. LOVE the guitar in that song.
"In my 15 years of baseball, I've never seen anything that no one had any idea of anything that was there." - Drayton McLane, Astros owner.

by duck on Dec 21, 2007 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Just got done listening to Christmas with the Rat
Pack. Pretty great stuff right there.

Also, I hate manheim steamroller. Now Trans-Siberian Orchestra's Christmas In Sarajevo? That's a version of Carol of the Bells I can get behind.

by pipkin on Dec 21, 2007 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

they're kind of insane...
i've never seen them, but if they don't all have karl marx hair and flowing salt and pepper beards, i'll be very disappointed.
So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Dec 21, 2007 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what I get
for not scrolling down all the way.
"In my 15 years of baseball, I've never seen anything that no one had any idea of anything that was there." - Drayton McLane, Astros owner.

by duck on Dec 21, 2007 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Bynum?
He hasn't been too atrocious at the plate over the last couple years. OPS+ of 91 two years in a row. Plus if he played full time he would probably steal 30 bases. Have him and Hernandez on the roster, and I could handle that.

Look, the Orioles are being built to probably lose 100 games next season and finish in last place. No one's going to come to the games and every one is going to bitch about how awful the Orioles are. So take your daily dose of Freddie Bynum and deal with it.

by crawjo on Dec 22, 2007 12:28 AM EST reply actions  

That said...
A middle infield prospect for Bedard would be nice. And maybe the Orioles can get the Cubs to give them DeRosa in the Roberts deal, just so we have a warm body there next year.

by crawjo on Dec 22, 2007 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Younger and Cheaper...
...does not include DeRosa.

There are plenty of prospects and major league ready young guys the Os can get from the Cubs.

Regarding Bedard, the Reds and Mariners have filled their need, and there's no telling if they're still going to go after him.

I think Bynum and Fahey will be the utility guys.  They're probably not going to be regulars.

by Dr Orpheus on Dec 22, 2007 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Well...
...most people say the Mariners are still in on Bedard and still want him. The Reds, I dunno. I don't like any package the Reds have to offer w/out Jay Bruce and they don't wanna trade him. The Mariners might be willing to trade Adam Jones, though.

by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 22, 2007 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Lots to think about
I certainly beleive trading Roberts wouldn't be a bad idea, based on what the O's get back.  But looking at the depth chart, as listed on the O's official website(and I love that Gibbons is listed only as a second string DH, no where in the field), if Roberts is traded, the Orioles will likely be forced to start Hernandez at SS and Bynum at 2B, unless a more advanced prospect comes back.  I would love to get rid of Huff, Payton, Millar and even Mora, but who's gonna take them?  You know we'd get nothing back, it would be purely salery reduction and addition by subtraction.  Looks like we'd have to keep Ramon Hernandez just to have a ML catcher.  

The OF, as currently constructed, is all LH and basically powerless, we don't know how much power Markakis has and has Scott reached is maximum output?  I can't wait to see him in 81 games shooting for the RF wall here. RF and LF could combine for 50 to 60 HRs, but that would be it.  Let's hope Scott Moore turns into a power hitter.
Lots of work to do and SC is right, if the team is going to suck, might as well be as young and cheap as possible while they're sucking.

lookouts400

by lookouts400 on Dec 22, 2007 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Can I Choose 1, 2, 3 and 4?
As much as I like Bedard AND Roberts, the Orioles have to do this. This off-season has shown that one can trade all-stars for four or five good prospects EACH, which means by shipping Bedard and Roberts (in different deals, to different teams) the Orioles could end up with a very very very strong farm system. At the end of the deals, I'd expect them to have two or three very promising young starters and some position prospects.

Since the team won't be contending yet anyway, this is no time for half-measures and non-committal moves to stay near .500. Trade these guys when their values are peaking, and do not not NOT overspend on league-average RP. It's money burnt.

The sooner you tear the team down, the sooner you can start rebuilding.

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by scoutingbook on Dec 22, 2007 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

Wishful but realistic
While I'm hoping that everybody's traded save the youth movement, I don't think they should just get rid of guys, except Mora, for anyone.  I like MacPhail's stance on the issue.  I like his patience to ensure they get the most from each player.  But I sure wish a team would want veteran guys.

by Dr Orpheus on Dec 22, 2007 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

re:
There's no "most" to get from most of the Orioles. It's why we lose 90 games every fucking year.

Thanks for the time that you've given me...

by Scott Christ on Dec 23, 2007 4:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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