Rumors de Jour - 12/6/07

by duck on Dec 6, 2007 8:18 AM EST in News & Rumors

So today's topics include....

*Does Brian Roberts get shipped to the Cubs?

*Does Miguel Tejada get shipped to the Dodgers?

*Does Erik Bedard get shipped anywhere?

*Does anyone care about Ramon Hernandez anymore?

*Did you see where Yahoo! didn't rank Paul Bako as the worst free agent catcher?

*Can we just ship Jay Gibbons anywhere? Toledo, maybe? I'm sure we could use some more buckets of balls....

Discuss.

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don't forget about

Aubrey Huff
Kevin Millar
Jay Payton
Melvin Mora
Daniel Cabrera

BLOW THIS TEAM THE HELL UP, ANDY

by dan the man on Dec 6, 2007 9:26 AM EST reply actions

not saying this has been put out there...

but am i the only one thingking that at least for the dodgers and angels, o's could send a beadard AND tejada package and come away w/ an approximation of the marlins score from the tigers?

So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Dec 6, 2007 10:13 AM EST reply actions

I was thinking about this last night.

Hell we might even be able to do a little better.

by BENNYBIRDMAN on Dec 6, 2007 10:22 AM EST up reply actions

Something like

Kemp, Loney, Broxton & Kershaw? A fan can dream can't he?

Friend of the Working Man

by Jonnypops on Dec 6, 2007 10:22 AM EST up reply actions

That dream would be messy.

by BENNYBIRDMAN on Dec 6, 2007 10:25 AM EST up reply actions

Broxton

LA doesn't want to give him up now.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Dec 6, 2007 11:18 AM EST up reply actions

These kinds of deals are partly what's holding up the Santana deals. Teams are unwilling to part with their cheap future. It's compounded by the fact that they also face a big contract negotiation. Watching the Santana haggling makes me think Bedard will also stay and the O's trade him for less next year or in July (assuming he doesn't realize he wants to stay - ha). If so, hope 2008 is a banner year and someone is really desperate in July or next off season.

by drj on Dec 6, 2007 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

core players

anybody who gets woberts gets gibbons
anybody who gets bedard gets baez
anybody who gets tejada gets milllaaahhh

that's how Os should unload their shitty players

really no other way to do it.

by thewaywardO on Dec 6, 2007 10:25 AM EST reply actions

sure there is

you call them into a meeting at OPACY, plant coke or dope in their car while they're inside, tip off the cops or DEA and voila! let the justice system & press take it from there. this ain't rocket science.

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by Jonnypops on Dec 6, 2007 10:35 AM EST up reply actions

lol! Who loves entrapment, baby?

I was going to contribute to the Alberto Gonzales Defense Fund, but I forgot.

by Titov on Dec 7, 2007 2:29 AM EST up reply actions

oh

and we should keep M'lar (as he's known in Pigtown). He's cheap and he'll be great at teaching all those young whippersnappers.

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by Jonnypops on Dec 6, 2007 10:37 AM EST up reply actions

with Jones to LA

this really opens the door.

let me suggest this: Bedard and Tejada for Kemp, Loney, Hu (AAA-ss), Broxton and low minor prospect pitcher.

i don't think LA moves Kershaw, but all the other parts are expendable or superfluous for them. Hu is an excellent defender and can run, though very little pop. Broxton becomes the closer and will form with Ray at the back end to be very formidable once Chris comes back. Loney is the everyday 1B, Kemp plays left.

then they talk themselves into thinking they can be competitive, they go out and offer Rowand 5 years and $60 million. imagine THAT!

resulting line-up:

2B Roberts
CF Rowand
RF Markakis
1B Loney
LF Kemp
DH Millar/Gibbons
3B Mora
C Hernandez
SS Hu

i just re-read this. i've had too much caffeine this morning!

FUCK MASCOT MILLAR and HORSESHIT HUFF

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Dec 6, 2007 10:45 AM EST reply actions

IF....Then

If the orioles trade away Bedard or Roberts
If the Orioles don't trade Miguel Tejada
If the Orioles keep a bunch of crappy players such as:
Gibbons
Mora
Millar
Hernandez
Etc
Etc

Then this fan of 20 years is washing his hands clean...I just can't take it anymore. What are we preparing ourselves for? 10 more years of rebuilding? Oh boy!

by OsFan1980 on Dec 6, 2007 10:48 AM EST reply actions

This time, it's different

...at least, that is what everyone keeps saying. Right now, I'm on with MacPhail and support trading away our "big three" of Bedard, Tejada and Roberts as long as we get great prospects in return.

However, if we get Joe Carter and Will Clark for those guys.....

by PhilR8 on Dec 6, 2007 3:53 PM EST up reply actions

talk is cheap

by drj on Dec 6, 2007 5:21 PM EST up reply actions

Rule 5

o's have taken randor bierd (b/w a & aa last year: 67.2ip/16bb/81k/2hr and eras of 2.05 & 3.35) and ryan rodriguez (still trying to figure this one out, though he's only 22).

i believe bierd was taken on the phase that would require him to be on the ml roster. rodriguez was taken in one of the minor league phases.

So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Dec 6, 2007 10:54 AM EST reply actions

fwiw...

baseball america looks at bierd faorably as a guy w/ a very good chance of contributing at the ml level right away, though probably not as a closer.

So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Dec 6, 2007 11:03 AM EST up reply actions

And I look at Radnor Bierd as

a combination which sounds more like somebody's name spelled backwards than anything since Detlef Schrempf. (Unless you count Nomar, which is somebody's name spelled backwards.) Hey, *%$# the guy's stats, we're going to need Radnor purely for phonetic marquee value!

I was going to contribute to the Alberto Gonzales Defense Fund, but I forgot.

by Titov on Dec 7, 2007 2:44 AM EST up reply actions

Checking his stats

on The Cube, Bierd put up some nice numbers last year in AA. I'm talking about .90 WHIP, 10.25 K/9, 6.11 H/9, 1.97 BB/9 & .20 HR/9. This has to translate into "Better than Rob Bell" on a Major League level.

Friend of the Working Man

by Jonnypops on Dec 6, 2007 11:14 AM EST up reply actions

Wow

23 years old, and a career minor league IP:K:BB ratio of 239:245:64.

Combine this draft with the Trax deal and signing Weiters and you have to like the few moves Lee has made thus far.

by silverstadium on Dec 6, 2007 11:46 AM EST up reply actions

even better...

early returns on a good bit of the o's 2007 draft class are favorable. obviously, high a isn't the greatest indicator for some of these guys (hey, remember chris vinyard?), but arrieta also looks to be a good signing that will be w/ the big club sooner rather than later.

So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Dec 6, 2007 11:52 AM EST up reply actions

can we...

get him a better name though? Randor Bierd?

FUCK MASCOT MILLAR and HORSESHIT HUFF

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Dec 6, 2007 11:18 AM EST reply actions

what do you mean?

you don't like characters from lord of the rimgs playing baseball? apparently, a dude named ray liotta also got drafted.

So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Dec 6, 2007 11:27 AM EST up reply actions

Kind of puzzling to me

Why the Nats would sign Aaron Boone and Willy Mo, I would think they need to get younger faster but maybe I'm wrong.

by Baltimo on Dec 6, 2007 12:26 PM EST reply actions

wily mo

Wily Mo is only gonna be 26 next year and still has a fair amount of potential. He seems like a solid enough piece for the future for the Nats

by UMterp08 on Dec 6, 2007 1:08 PM EST up reply actions

File this deal under "Waste of time"

Rotoworld has a fresh rumor up of us trading Tejada to the Astros for Adam Everett, Chris Burke and an unnamed pitcher. Uggggggh...

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by Jonnypops on Dec 6, 2007 1:57 PM EST reply actions

uh, yeah...

that would be really annoying.

So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Dec 6, 2007 2:08 PM EST up reply actions

No Deals in Nashville

ESPN reports MacPhail has left Nashville. It doesn't mean he won't make a deal down the road, but it does mean he won't be making any in Tennessee.

Friend of the Working Man

by Jonnypops on Dec 6, 2007 2:29 PM EST reply actions

Not surprising...

I wonder how many deals Angelos nixed?

"Hating the Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers, and cheating on your income taxes." -Mike Royko

by BPinOK on Dec 6, 2007 2:30 PM EST reply actions

re:

Maybe MacPhail is driving out to the airport to pick up Angelos so he can come in and nix any deals for his "superstar" players the organization can't afford to give up.

by drj on Dec 6, 2007 3:35 PM EST up reply actions

This

team can't even get rid of players. How in the hell did we ever expect them to add the right pieces? You are telling me that eleven teams are inquiring or have offered about Bedard and every one of them has been a lowball offer or hasn't been countered by the team? Eleven! McFail will be gone within two years and much like Keith Richards, Petey will live forever.

"Hating the Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers, and cheating on your income taxes." -Mike Royko

by BPinOK on Dec 6, 2007 5:26 PM EST reply actions

In Keith's defense

he's only 63, compared to Angelos' 78. And he probably didn't sell his soul to Satan in exchange for immortality, either.

by The Sicilian on Dec 6, 2007 6:01 PM EST up reply actions

plus..

...he was the inspiration for Jonny Depp's character in the Pirates... series.

It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB

by zknower on Dec 6, 2007 6:02 PM EST up reply actions

He made great music for decades but

if you take a slightly closer look at Keith now you realize that, alas, he passed away some years ago. Now if Petey would just take the hint...

I was going to contribute to the Alberto Gonzales Defense Fund, but I forgot.

by Titov on Dec 7, 2007 2:48 AM EST up reply actions

Does anybody

have ESPN Insider, so we can all find out what they're saying about the chances of a Bedard-Dodgers trade?

Friend of the Working Man

by Jonnypops on Dec 6, 2007 7:09 PM EST reply actions

Where'd my sig go

by Baltimo on Dec 6, 2007 8:03 PM EST reply actions

the image is missing from your source URL

which is

http://ci.ftlaud.fl.us/press_releases/2004/img/orioles.gif

no image there any more.

It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB

by zknower on Dec 6, 2007 9:26 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks zk

by Baltimo on Dec 6, 2007 11:12 PM EST up reply actions

Winter Meeting Success!

I'm not terribly surprised the O's made no major moves this week. Recent articles indicate MacPhail is very methodical and that doesn't translate into quick movement (expect possibly with the Cubs).

So the O's can claim some degree of success because...

But the Orioles didn't do anything rash or stupid either; that, in itself, is a victory.

MacPhail only browses at quiet winter meetings

So has this franchise been reduced to being praised for not making stupid moves at the winter meetings. Great. I suppose they must start somewhere.

by drj on Dec 7, 2007 11:06 AM EST reply actions