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Quick Q&A with Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus

Recently I had the chance to throw a few quick questions the way of the expert minds of Baseball Prospectus, and prospect authority Kevin Goldstein was kind enough to give us a few answers about Brandon Erbe and Billy Rowell (our top two prospects by almost all accounts), Chris Ray, and Daniel Cabrera, and an opinion on our current and moderately ridiculous fifth starter debate. Only in baseball can people have such determined opinions about the level of players we're discussing.

I can't recommend enough that you pick up your copy of the 2007 Baseball Prospectus. (And if you want to be nice, use that Amazon link over on the left sidebar and grab it from there.)

Q: BP has great words to say about both Billy Rowell and Brandon Erbe. Given their extreme youth, should we as Orioles fans let ourselves get excited by their potential, or should we quell our expectations some? What are the chances for a flameout in either case?

KG: Get excited. They're the two top prospects in the system, both have enormous potential, but yes, both have a very wide gap between what they are and what they can be because of their youth. Rowell needs to translate his raw power to in-game power, and Erbe has concerns about his mechanics and lack of a third pitch - but no prospect is perfect. Not a one. That doesn't mean you can't get excited about them.

Q: Chris Ray performed well in his raw numbers last year, but many have cited his big-time luck as a reason for this, and thus forecast a downturn for him in 2007. How likely is it that Ray simply continues to become a better pitcher, and thus puts up similar numbers to his 2006 totals from here on out? After all, he's only 25.

KG: I think the fact that he'll get better and the fact that he was a little bit over his head really should balance themselves out this year. He's not the perfect closer by any means. He needs to miss more bats and throw more strikes, but he's still pretty good.

Q: Who would really be the best major league starter in 2007: Steve Trachsel, Jeremy Guthrie, or Hayden Penn?

KG: For me, it would have to be Penn. Guthrie has made it pretty clear already that he's not going to work out, while Trachsel is 36 and three years removed from effectiveness. Give the kid a chance.

Q: What are the odds that Daniel Cabrera winds up being a good-to-great major league starter? His K rate is fascinating, of course, but, sadly, so is his walk rate.

KG: I'd say pretty low. He's turning 26 this year, and if anything, his control is going backward. Expect a Bobby Witt-esque career.

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Cabrera
Is this guy watching the same Cabrera that I am?

Control going backwards?!

What the hell?  

by Mike Boehm on Mar 22, 2007 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Well
Cabrera did walk 5 guys in 5 innings in his last ST start.  I'm not sure that's going backwards or not, but it's definitely not going forward.  I'm a little more skeptical of his assessment of Penn being the  best candidate for the 5th starter job at this point.  Amidst the hullaballoo about Trax v. Guthrie around here, I would tag Penn as coming in 3rd for the spot right now.  We know he's young, but so far he just has not come off as ready for prime time.  Hopefully later in the season that will change.

by Jonnypops on Mar 22, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have the faith
I refuse to believe that Cabrera is going to be a Bobby Witt. Even if it's true, I'd rather be deluded a bit longer.

by Stacey on Mar 22, 2007 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabrera
"Is this guy watching the same Cabrera that I am?

Control going backwards?!"

I think he's referring to last season.  Afterall, Cabrera was sent to the minors to work on his control.

Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Mar 22, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well
Well then he should have said that. Based on the last month of 2006 Cabrera is looking better than he has in the rest of his career. He's on an upswing!

All hail Lasek!

by Mike Boehm on Mar 22, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rowell
"Get excited. They're the two top prospects in the system, both have enormous potential, but yes, both have a very wide gap between what they are and what they can be because of their youth."

I'm glad the O's drafted Rowell but he's had a half of season of rookie ball under his pro career.  He's nowhere near the big league club.  For injury reasons alone, I think it's too early to get excited about Rowell.  Brandon Snyder tore up rookie ball as well and then a shoulder injury popped up.

btw, I read that the O's were locked upon Jay Bruce for the 05 draft but the Red took him with the previous pick.  Thus they went with Snyder.  Bruce would have been such a nice addition especially given the lack of OF prospects in the O's system.    

Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Mar 22, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

re:
I don't know what to believe about Cabrera. Reports say he was still growing and it messed with his mechanics. I've read more Mazzone quotes that say his mechanics are OK, now it's a confidence issue. E.g.
Trebelhorn, who's known Cabrera since the day he reported -- without a pair of baseball shoes of his own -- offered a convincing defense. "Daniel's grown three or four inches since we signed him. I think he's really 6 foot 9. His body is growing into his stuff," Trebelhorn said. "He's made tremendous progress. People don't give him enough credit. Daniel can throw 100. But he needs to find out what speed he can pitch at. Is it 95, with command? Throwing isn't pitching."
"Cabrera has great stuff but he's worrying too much about where it's going," Mazzone said. "That leads to too many different release points. His mechanics are pretty sound. His problem is more in his mind right now. When you try to avoid throwing a ball, you start to scatter some." "Scatter" means the team mascot better keep his head on.

Why not have hopes for Erbe and Rowell? These guys are what has been lacking from the O's minor league system for too long. Yeah, plenty can happen and they don't live up to the hype. I'm not betting anything on them. At least it is fun to see the possibility of a future. My hope is they continue to make good strides along with guys like Loewen and Markakis) and finally Angelos realizes that buying over the hill free agents is crap.

No questions on Loewen?

by drj on Mar 22, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

re:
A Loewen question for a BP guy will be coming soon.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Mar 22, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erbe and Rowell
Erbe and Rowell are highly ranked in almost every list out there, with Erbe around the #50 mark and Rowell around #70 in all of baseball. (Baseball Prospectus is an outlier, loving Erbe more than everyone else combined.) Refs with indexes...

Erbe Comp Book
Rowell Comp Book

I don't know if we SHOULD be excited, but there's definitely a lot to these guys that deserves further study!

ScoutingBook: Top Baseball Prospects, Closers and more.

by scoutingbook on Mar 23, 2007 5:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera
As someone who's drafted and sat on Cabrera for a few years running in my keeper league fantasy team, waiting him to pull it all together, let me just say that I'm almost certain that THIS will be the big year for him.

Why am I so confident?

Because I cut him during the winter.

I'm "lucky" that way.

--

ScoutingBook: Top Baseball Prospects, Closers and more.

by scoutingbook on Mar 23, 2007 5:20 AM EDT reply actions  

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Well then, we thank you for your kind deed.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Mar 23, 2007 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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