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Gameday Thread: O's at Yankees, 04/06

Game Time: 7:05 | TV: MASN, YES (NYY) | Radio: WHFS
Adam Loewen, LH Mike Mussina, RH (0-0, -.--) (0-0, -.--) 2B B Roberts CF M Cabrera 3B M Mora SS D Jeter RF N Markakis RF B Abreu SS M Tejada 3B A Rodriguez 1B A Huff DH J Giambi LF J Gibbons LF H Matsui DH K Millar C J Posada CF C Patterson 2B R Cano C P Bako 1B J Phelps

First series is behind us now. Let's kill these a-holes.

That said, the last time the Orioles started 0-4, they didn't win until game 22.

Since 2003, the O's have gone 25-50 against the Yankees, and 13-25 at Yankee Stadium. Loewen was 2-1 with a 2.63 ERA in four starts against New York last season, striking out 23 in 24 innings and allowing zero home runs. Mussina is 9-5 in 20 starts against us since flying the coop, with a 4.21 ERA and 1.20 WHIP. In '06, he had a 4.91 ERA in two starts. Tejada kills Moose for his career: .419, 4 HR, 13 RBI.

Razor Ramon is still out though not yet officially on the DL. Johnny Damon may head to the DL for New York with a right calf strain.

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I'm glad
I'm glad PA got rid of that Mussina guy.  What a bum he was when he played for us.

by jeremy52 on Apr 6, 2007 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Mussina...
Mussina is a prick.

by Chico Salmon on Apr 6, 2007 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Why I predicted a sweep
Surely loyal readers of CC thought I was high when I predicted a sweep of the Yankees this weekend.

So let me clarify.

Of course, my post was based partly on homerism. But a sweep isn't out of the question at all.

The Yankees have started off the year pretty crappy themselves. Jeter has made three errors, A-Rod is getting his ass booed nightly, and these guys just lost to the D-Rays.

Meanwhile, we suck per usual. I know.

But looking at matchups? I like our chances:

Tonight: I'll totally take fearless Loewen and his 2.63 RA over Mussina, who is 100 years old.

Tomorrow: Oy. We've got Trax going for us. But Trachsel actually began to look okay towards the end of ST. More to the point, no matter how crappy he is, he's a wily veteran compared to Igawa, who has never thrown a lajor league pitch, let alone pitched in Yankee Stadium. Both of these guys will be gone by the 6th, and I like our bullpen over NY's, at least until the ninth inning.

Sunday: BUH-dard against .... Rasner? If this isn't a slam-dunk, then nothing is.

Of course, we're going to have to get some hits to make this all come true. But after getting their asses handed to them in Baggytown, I expect Roberts, Markakis et al to be a little pissed off and fired up. Heck, I'm betting Millar gets an extra base hit this weekend.

Our guys can taste it, and they don't want to start the year feeling as crappy as they did all day yesterday.

This is going to be fun to watch.  :)

by zknower on Apr 6, 2007 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

nice start
Roberts double, Mora safe on THE GODDAMNED MELVIN MORA FIRST INNING BUNT WITH A RUNNER IN SCORING POSITION, WHY HAVE YOU IDIOTS DONE THIS FOR THREE YEARS
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

NICK MAR KICK ASS
DOUBLE

2-0 O'S

OPEN UP THE FLOODGATES

"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

come on, Jay
Get us another run.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Good so far!
But Melvin getting on base with that stupid bunt is only going to encourage them!

WHO BUNTS IN THE FIRST INNING? I should be used to it by now, but I'm just not. I refuse to get used to it.

I should also be over effing Mike Mussina by now as well, but I still get a teeny bit sad when I see him in those pinstripes. He's looking OLD.

by Stacey on Apr 6, 2007 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh
Loewen looks a little wild but good inning for the O's.
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

So let me just get this straight.
They're going to bunt EVERY SINGLE TIME SOMEONE IS ON FIRST BASE? Wouldn't it be more effective to have Patterson try and get a hit with Millar on first than leave it up to Bako with Millar on 2nd?

by Stacey on Apr 6, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I know
If Bako was up then I can understand but let Corey swing away.  
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe Sam can manage us out of this one
Loewen can only hold them so far in check. We have to score runs. Giving up outs against a team that is roughly 43 times more potent offensively is stupid.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

suck it Jorge
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

well it's tied
Maybe if we BUNT more.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Markakis is a stud
Get him in, Miggy! At least we know he won't bunt.

by Stacey on Apr 6, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

re:
Why didn't Tejada bunt?

by drj on Apr 6, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU WANNA FIGHT, MOOSE?
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Kevo, I'm beggin' ya
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

KevBo
Also way to go, Jay.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's your boy with the mad BB skills
kevin millar
kevin millar
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Still want him cut
I'm not wavering - cut him before he becomes too big a liability
Chris Ray is the MAN - This WILL NOT be debated.

by duck on Apr 6, 2007 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah we'd be better off with
...uh.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're better off....
with just about ANYONE else.

Cut Kevo.

Chris Ray is the MAN - This WILL NOT be debated.

by duck on Apr 6, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

like who
Terry Tiffee? There's no one in our system that makes for a better use of the roster spot.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw
Just because it stiull bugs me that the Twins got no payback. If the Yankees are deep on the losing end, Jeter should take it on the elbow.

by drj on Apr 6, 2007 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

if Patterson bunts I'm gonna fart
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

COREY
BLAM

YOU SUCK MUSSINA

"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Bako is gonna hit a dong
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate Bako
He has a good way of ruining my buzz.

by Stacey on Apr 6, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

the mere idea of paul bako...
is an unquestionable harshing of my mellow.  yours too, from the sound of it, thus, paul bako is a mellow harsher.

BOO!

by jq higgins on Apr 6, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bako sucks
He looks completely out of place with a bat in his hands.  Like some kind of lumbering oaf that somehow got to live out every kid's dream.  Booooooo Bako Boooooooo!

by Jonnypops on Apr 6, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

nvm
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

BAKO!
is it a coincidence that the name "Paul Bako' sounds very similar to "debacle"?

by emptyseat on Apr 6, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahh
I come home from work and find a three run lead.
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

no one said it
But that was ballsy pitching against Giambi after falling behind 2-0 with bases loaded.

I'm not real comfy with 3 runs

by drj on Apr 6, 2007 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Gibbons
Gibby's hair off the hook.  2632 said he looks like Ronald McDonald.  That's sooo on target.  
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Gibby
Maybe since he looks like Ronald McDonald he'll start hitting like Big Mac

by emptyseat on Apr 6, 2007 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAH!
please: someone kill buck martinez.  he is an idiot.

by jq higgins on Apr 6, 2007 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Loewen
Man, they should have gone with Loewen for one more inning.
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

this is why Parrish makes me uncomfortable
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

parrish
Yeah, he threw a lot of junk.  Phelps and Cabrera really took some bad hacks at some questionable pitches.
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sean Henn
Further proof that lefties are kryptonite to this lineup.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

ah, god...
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

bahaha
God you are so unclutch, A-Rod.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Bradford doesn't seem like...
...the type who'd be good against lefties...
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

he's not
He gets torched.

That's why we got JAMIE WALKER, BOY

"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And cue Perlozzo
Hello, Jamie Walker.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Sit down,
you piece of shit cheater. God, I love watching Giambi fail.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

fuuuuuuuuuuudge
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

double fudge
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

JAMIE WALKER, BOY
ROBINSON CANO FITS IN A SKILLET
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

$43 million....
might just be worth it for 4 new arms in the bullpen. Walker came up BIG - he knows how to pitch.

PLEASE let's see the O's close this game out!

Chris Ray is the MAN - This WILL NOT be debated.

by duck on Apr 6, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I love you.
That's the first thing to make my tired, hungover ass laugh this fine morning.

by 2632 on Apr 7, 2007 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus christ already
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Which of the O's highly paid guys is...
in for the 8th? Baez, probably?
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

he better be
That's his job. Questionably, yes, but his job.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Questionably
Odd thing is, Danyas has a history of overachieving in his ERAs over how you'd expect someone with his rates per nine stats to do. Last year was the first time in four years that his actual ERA ran higher than his PERA. BP 2007 says he should've been somewhere in the 3.00s...don't know how much you're into BP, but it's food for thought behind the Orioles signing of Baez, perhaps.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

BP can suck it
1-2-3 served deliciously by Baez, he don't need no peripherals.

by punkrawka on Apr 6, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And here he is
To start the 8th. C'mon, Baez, get these bums out.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I guess I didn't jinx Baez
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

8th inning
gotta give some Baez love.  
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

OK, this is set up for Ray
We'll see. Ray too is said to have over achieved in his ERA. Knock 'em out Chris.

by drj on Apr 6, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, but...
...there seems to be a consensus that Ray's stuff is nasty enough that he'll improve his per nine stats this season. Thus, he'll have around the same type of year. This is not a jinx either.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what happened to Jeter.
Peculation is he may have hurt himself with the slide into 2nd. Maybe we'll see him with an abdominal strain.

by drj on Apr 6, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe he broke his rib cage and...
...is bleeding internally.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh oh
Bases empty... A-Rod may be effective.

by punkrawka on Apr 6, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Whee!
And we improve to 1-3, couldn't have been against a better team.

by punkrawka on Apr 6, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

one down
two more to go.  
Big Bird says, "Get Pat the Bat!"

by birdman on Apr 6, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

3 up, 3 down
Who's overrated? Not Chris Ray!
Chris Ray is the MAN - This WILL NOT be debated.

by duck on Apr 6, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Good win for the O's.
I'm headed back over to RR to root on another underdog, peace out.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ @ Camden Chat on Apr 6, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Niiiiiiice!
As much as I hates getting swept by Minnesota, it feels really nice to see the first win versus the Yankees.  Good job O's.

by Jonnypops on Apr 6, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah!
Never a doubt!  Take that, evil empire!
"Jaret Wright will be the missing piece in the Orioles quest to return to respectability." --- Jaret Wright's Mom

by BrianS on Apr 6, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

SWEEP, SWEEP, SWEEP!
Hell, maybe they'll run the table-- 158 in a row! It's amazing how inspiring a first win against the N** Y***  St*nbr*nn*rs can be. I hope PA cheered so hard he ruptured his aorta. Anyway, let's start planning for the postseason. I like Loewen starting the first game of the ACLS, waddaya say.

by Titov on Apr 6, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah! and Dish Network gets MASN!
It was very exciting to have the O's defeat the Yanks. There was also much rejoicing in the house when I was looking through the Dish Network guide and saw that MASN was activated.  So, even though we could get the game on WJZ today, we can get all the games now and my son is very happy.

Neil

by neilo on Apr 6, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yah-Effing-Hoo
Just got in and saw the result.

Watched all the NYC reporters fawning all over Mussina and Jeter on YES, trying to make excuses for them.

"Mike, was it the cold? Was it too hard to grip the ball tonight?"

"Well, their pitchers didn't seem to have any problem."

"Derek, how's the foot. That looked really nasty."

"Oh, it's nothing. It probably seems inhuman that I might play tomorrow after fouling a ball off of my foot; most guys would probably take several days off. But I'm a gamer, and I'm gonna be in there."

"Derek, you're like, from another planet!"

I must say, whomever said Mussina looked tired was dead on. He looked exhausted in the postgame interview. I think he realizes the Yankees have a long row to hoe this year. They haven't had a starter go longer than 4 innings yet.

by zknower on Apr 6, 2007 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

And oh yeah, baby
they're replaying the game now and I get to watch! :)

by zknower on Apr 6, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:
Did anyone see the YES broadcast when Jeter failed to cover second on Paterson's sac bunt?  You could almost see Michael Kay's trying to figure out how exactly that was possible, he spent at least 1 minute trying to figure out who should have covered first, before being told directly (twice) that it's the SS role to cover second on a bunt to first.

It was almost like the first time a kid figures out there is no Santa Claus.

momma take a look now at what your boy has done; he's walking around like he's number one; he went downtown and bought him a gun.

by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 7, 2007 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was hilarious.
It was like telling a die hard conservative that Bush isn't doing a good job.  He just couldn't fathom it.

What was even funnier though was the outfit he was sporting, which made the post game show a laugh riot.  He had on an oversized tweed jacket and black turtleneck that made him look like a Jewish Chubby Checker.

by Jonnypops on Apr 7, 2007 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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