1.  You are not a thorn in the side of the Yankees.  You are more like the pebble in their shoe that they pick out before the playoffs virtually every year.  Yes you won one World Series off of a Wild Card in 2004, and you are having a good season this year, but this hardly qualifies as a historically significant trend.  The team in this Division that the Yankees have historically had the most trouble with is the Orioles, not you.
2.  Fucking up for 86 years is nothing to be proud of.  Go take a page out of the Cubbies book on this one.  
3.  Your ballpark is a shithole. It might look nice on TV, but one needs only take a short walk around the innards of Fenway Park to realize that this green monstrosity should've been torn down years ago.  
4.  Just because it happened to you does not make it interesting.  We don't care about your heartaches of the past.  We don't care about your lore and bullshit.  We don't care about every little move you make.  Stop acting like we do, please.

on the flip side, i don't hate teams that we crush repeatedly.

Except for the Yankees, Red Sox, and Blue Jays.

Lifelong Sox fan (OK, bandwagon started in '67) whose family lived in Bawlamer for 25 years allows me either to appreciate both Sox and O's fans, or be about as welcome as a polygamist, depending upon your outlook.

1. We fill up your stadium because it's close, it's cheaper (travel included), you can actually get tickets without going thru a scalper, unlike Fenway we can fit our 21st-century arses into the seats.  And, oh yeah, because you won't.   Angelos is happy to put us on his email Preferred O's Fan list. (I think they introduced special Sox/Yankee game pricing this year.) And, why would you go to see a game and NOT yell LOUD for your team to win, unless you're a Twins fan (but that's another post).  You wanna be quiet, go to the symphony.
2. Yes, some of our fans are obnoxious.  It's a New England trait.  But since we figure it's a far lower percentage than that of New Yorkers and Yankee fans, there's some moral superiority in there somewhere.  Any antipathy toward the O's comes from 69-74 and again in 79, when just as the Sox were becoming winners again (after more mediocrity than you've experienced under Angelos), the Birds were always stepping on our throats year after year.  
3. John Denver singing "Thank God I'm a Country Boy"?  In Maryland?  For.....decades?  And I'VE  got problems?

Either way, I hate sox fans. Because I live among them. 2 of my 3 roommates are sox fans, virtually everyone I work with. The bandwagon thing really sucks (especially the first year of college when people came from the west coast, having no family in NE, and grabbed up their pink sox caps) but most of the people i know now have been lifelong fans. They're pompous. They throw around words like "suck" and "lose" towards the orioles but none of them are old enough (myself included save for 2 seasons) to recall a time when those words weren't vindicated in any way, and worst of all they bitched when they only got 6 players on the all-star team and, oh, my, god, how is beckett not starting the game.

to tell the truth I almost hate Pats fans more. but of course they almost all overlap.

I like fenway though, with the exception of the sometimes-maze of its upper-concourse levels and occasionally over-greasy floors. I like the neighborhood around it too. I only live like a mile and a half away anyway.

One thing to hate about them in boston is how they clog up the T (subway) on game days. When I am unfortunate enough to have to take the T home from work in charlestown (cycling preferred) they are loud, obnoxious, and generally stupid as far as public transportation goes (a couple games a year being the only time most of them ride the T).

Anyway, long day at work so apologies for the lack of direction and of course punctuation and capitalization...

I'm still gonna try to go to tomorrow's game I think.

Where oh where to start? There's just so much to hate about the fans & the organization. And since like Duck, zknower & may be 1 or 2 others, I'm towards the old end of the age spectrum around here, I've been at it for quite some time. Bucky vs Torrez? Hell, I remember Tony Perez vs Bill Lee (barely).

I'll deal with the fans 1st, then the organization. The pre-'04 diehards, loyal though they are, are just pathetic. Other teams have had long stretches of suck, but these guys seemed to think they were the only ones. As mentioned earlier, Cub fans would cope by drinking their asses off. And they also turned losing into a gimmick. Sort of like the wrestler who has his own costume & entrance music but still lost to Hulk Hogan in about 5 minutes. May be not the healthiest of coping mechanisms, but they sure didn't expect the rest of the baseball world to suffer along with them. And when they speak of the Cubs "curse", they mostly have a bit of fun with it. Boston fans were serious.

But I think the White Sox fans handled losing best of all. As one of them said, "There was no curse, we just sucked for a really long time."

Now about the bandwaggon jumpers, other teams have them, most noteably the Yankees. But in most cases they know enough to educate themselves about the team's history & tradition, and to keep quiet among the diehards until they do. You do NOT go into the bleachers at Yankee stadium with a pink (or any non-navy blue) cap. Trust me, you don't want any of that noise. You'll have a better chance wearing the other team's cap - unless it's Mets or Red Sox day. Also, the Yankee fan, unlike his Boston counterpart, cares very little about what fans of other teams think. The attitude is, "You don't like it? Do something about it." And for the last 6 Octobers, other teams have, but that doesn't change the belief that they're still the biggest dog in the yard.

Then there's the organization itself. They're always in the running for the biggest free agents on the market. In terms of $$$ they can clearly compete with NY, the other NY, LA & the other LA, but they bitch & whine like they're operation on a Royals-like budget. A ham under each arm & they cry because there's no bread. And the sports media buys it. Theo Epstein could give lessons to FOX-y the Snowman (aka Tony Snow) about how to make bullshit believable.

And finally, my top 3 Red Sox post season moments-

1986 - A healthy Roger Clemens practically BEGS McNamara to take him out vs the Mets.

1990 - Clemens gets tossed rather than face the beatdown the As were about to deliver. (I sense a pattern).

2005 - Schilling crying like a little bitch after the White Sox swept. The start of another 86 years? Here's hoping!

Oh, and I can't resist 1 more on Schilling, the vindictiveness, self-righteousness & ingnorance he displayed in his Barry Bonds rants indicate that he's thinking about a career as a sportwriter

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OMG this is rich.  Hate! Hate! Hate! Hate!

1. Fans = Drunk bandwagon jumpers
2. over hyped teams
3. awful fashion clothes

you rock kristen, but your team sucks!

Jeremy Guthrie ROCKS! Go to hell Paul Shuey!