Operation: Third Place
Dave Trembley, you son of a son of a gun, you. Your Orioles have me believing -- kind of.
The Trembley-led O's are a whole different team, and they played most of that stretch without their shortstop, who also happens to be the highest-paid player on the team. Trembley's Orioles now sit at a mere six games under .500. Not much of an accomplishment if you're a fan of the Yankees or some other stupid team that wins games routinely, but to me, that's sounding good.
So now I'm getting a little anxious. I want third place.
Did you ever see Mr. 3000? It was an OK baseball movie, Bernie Mac was funny enough. Anyway, if you haven't, here come spoilers. I'm sure you're devastated. That movie winds up being less about the Bernie Mac character than it does a team with a losing culture coming together late in the season to try to get to third place. It's respectable-sounding, you know? "Third place." When you've lost for a decade, it's a real goal, and one that requires work.
We're four games behind Toronto with 52 games left to play. It's something that can happen. And I'd be thrilled with a solid third-place finish out of this team.
Bedard, Guthrie, Roberts, Walker, Bradford, and Millar are the guys that have saved this season for me. Under Perlozzo's watchful eye, the team was cruising into the center of the earth, just another horrible, forgettable (oh, if only) Orioles team on their way to 90 losses. With Trembley in charge, they've been a real baseball team.
I'm in, man. Do it, Dave. Take this team to that elusive promised land. .500 can happen, third place can happen. LET'S GO O'S!
(By the way, I may be out of action for a few more days. My cable/internet is working for now, but with Comcast I have no idea if that'll stay the same way. Honestly, it shouldn't be working right now, but it is. It could be two or three days where I'm totally gone.)
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Not to rain on your happiness
SEA - 3 .550 vs 2-4
BOS - 4 .613 vs 2-6
NYY - 3 .550 vs 6-3 good news
TOR - 3 .509 vs 4-5
TEX - 3 .432 vs 1-2, no more Tex so they suck
MIN - 4 .518 vs 0-3
TAM - 3 .382 vs 8-1 great news
22 - 24
I think the run is over, sorry! As always I hope I'm wrong. But we'll see soon enough
F all those bums!
by Scott Christ on Aug 6, 2007 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want third, I need third
mr. 3000
by jq higgins on Aug 6, 2007 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
Operation number 2: Sink the Yankees
I consider it our personal duty to deliver that wild card to Cleveland/Detroit.
LET'S GO O'S
I AM GENUINELY ROOTING FOR YOUR PLAYERS TO PERFORM WELL IN THOSE GAMES AND BE VICTORIOUS
by Awesome Mike Awesome on Aug 6, 2007 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Just an FYI
"Awesome was found dead at around 10:30 p.m. on February 17, 2007 in the Tampa area. A group of friends who were coming to his home to pick him up and go out found him hanged in his home."
Naw, he just wants
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
re:
by Scott Christ on Aug 6, 2007 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Perfect world?
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Since moving to Boston
so...
And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM
Dempsey as voice of reason
by osforever on Aug 8, 2007 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
those of us who live in nyc...
even at the expense of boston going again.
ny has been to the playoffs, like, ten straight years. boston has gone a handful of times over the same period.
I don't give a shit
And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM
The late AMA's flag was apparently picked up
ugh
Quit the whining already. AMA feels unfairly victimized, so he feels the needs to use all caps to emphasize his good intentions. Just post like a "normal" person dude (e.g. "Go O's. I hope you beat the shit out of Yanks,").
Tremblay's got them playing
Which is nice.
Even Tejeda has managed to keep his mouth shut through this "surge."
by tbone shelby on Aug 6, 2007 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
btw...
by jq higgins on Aug 6, 2007 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
This thread is about the Orioles
I still think Trembley's kinda dumb and has the wrong idea about how to most effectively win baseball games, but, hell, I don't feel like arguing with results anymore (not even small sample size ones).
So, onward to third place!
Snape Killed Dumbledore!
P.S. Skip the epilogue. COMPLETELY unnecessary and a bit disappointing.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
THANKS FOR RUINING IT :)
nerds!
Dude you have no idea
the levels of my nerdiness
I actually saw the new movie
I was really afraid you all were going to ruin the
I would have been pissed. P-I-S-S-E-D. I've gone this long without having it spoiled, to have it actually spoiled while I'm reading it would've sucked.
But you know i won't skip the epilogue. After reading like 3000 pages worth of this stuff I'm not going to skip the last few.
No spoiling here
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
But seriously....
DUDE - not cool
Sorry, you just can't control these people 24/7...
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Spoiler
heh, i actually read that
But I've been conditioned to think of the interwebs as evil.
I would never spoil it
spoiler
just finished
i brought that up
Jeremy Guthrie ROCKS! Go to hell Paul Shuey!
by westcoastOfan on Aug 6, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
and Brandon Fahey
And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM
and
Jeremy Guthrie ROCKS! Go to hell Paul Shuey!
by westcoastOfan on Aug 6, 2007 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa there Westie...
And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM
well
the "and" at the begining was sarcasm.
Jeremy Guthrie ROCKS! Go to hell Paul Shuey!
by westcoastOfan on Aug 6, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
the new (and improved?)

Brandon Fahey!
And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM
.500
I was thinking the same thing but the O's usually, but not always, take a nose dive in August and September since the turn of the century so I don't see .500 happening.
2004
it's relative
Jays
3/5th of our slated rotation
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
"I want third place"
Yep, along with our "2 of the best 7"
Our two chimps, Mikey and Louie,
By the way, check out Mikey's new ad campaign for Spirit Bank in OK...
www.primematedepositor.com
Good stuff!
Totally irrelevent observations
The Tigers are 1-9 in their last 10 games. How can they have fallen apart like this? They are essentially the same team that was kicking other teams senseless up until ten days ago, or did I miss some major injuries?
The Nationals are 8-2 in their last 10 games. Uh oh, competing for O's fans? We gotta keep pace with the Nats!
by tbone shelby on Aug 6, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
what's worse...
two games separate them.
by jq higgins on Aug 6, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Guitar Hero III
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Guitar Hero
The kids want a Wii
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Dude
Two things....
- I screwed up my reply - the Xbox doesn't have Mario games.
- It's all about reasonable compromise. But if you don't want kids, don't have them. I've had too many teacher-parent conferences with people who didn't follow that advice.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Can't you get both?
Don't have that kinda cash laying around
Wii=$250 before buying games.
I've got a 1/2 dead tree in my yard, an HVAC system that's leaking fro somewhere and a dishwasher that's leaking, too. Two game systems might be a bit hard to justify on the ol' credit card.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Fair enough
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I'd say the same thing
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Just buy the original NES
guitar playing
link
just in case anybody wants to join the air guitar subculture.
Um... I'll pass..

And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM
I don't give a rusty f$%#...
I want Patterson, Gibbons, and Huff gone, even if it means eating salary, and no, I don't know where to get guys to replace them.
But I also don't have an entire MLB scouting apparatus at my disposal to let me know where there are position players available who are worth a shot.
I want a full-court press to sign Bedard long-term. Like 6 years and $80 million to start. And if Pete thinks that's "ludicrous" like the Oswalt deal, well, then there really isn't any hope until he dies.
What I do NOT want is the team to put on a false push to get to 3rd place, to go on a season ending winning push that makes them look far, far more promising than they are, which causes the FO to say, "oh, we only need minor tinkering to be competitive," just like they do every year.
If 3rd place causes the FO to stick with stagnation...and if this team is the 2008 Os...then no, I don't freakin' want it.
by KenDixonFanClub on Aug 6, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
As Jamie Walker said...
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Agreed on all counts, KDFC, 'cept
I understand your fear that 3rd place could inspire the FO into delusions of high-end mediocrity (or at least proclamations of it) when the team in fact continues to wander between the low-end of same and just plain sucking. But by the same token, if we really wanted to be sure the FO and that f$%#ing dimbulb Petey got the message in No Uncertain Terms, we could wind up rooting for the team to oust the D-Rays from their long-lease basement apartment. And for whatever reason, I can't bring myself to that.
In short, I can't root for 5th and I'm really, really tired of 4th. That leaves...
Anyway, well said (especially re BUH DARD) and let's go find somebody to punch out in the Warehouse after lunch.
Trachsel vs. Weaver tonight
if by "kicked ass"
And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM
That's what my dictionary says
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Weaver
I say we drop bombs early and try and hold them late.
Whats up everyone? New to this place...
by chuck12345 on Aug 7, 2007 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
Welcome...
This pretty much sums up teh O's offense:
I've seen that movie a few times this season...
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
Haven't we all...
Just ask Perlozzo!
He did say "TRY and hold them..."
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield
I'm really rooting for El Trashador these days
Sure, I'd rather see any other starter (OK, except Burres, no offense)-- but if I have to see Trash, I wanna see good Trash: people whiffing at floaters, slamming bats down, that kind of thing. So tonight's the Big Warmup for him, far as I'm concerned. Work on the Slip Pitch, the Wiffle Ball sinker, the Dark Ball (which my dad used to throw against me and my brother) and, most of all, the infamous Grease Ball. I mean, what else is he guy going to do against the Sawx? Bore 'em into submission? Go Trax!
p.s. Mega-points to anybody who remembers the Vitalis ad (I think it was) with the "Grease Ball! Grease Ball!" charge against...Don Drysdale?
Third place?
Make a salary cap, then see where these teams will be. That is when we would start to see GMs really perform magic.
by chuck12345 on Aug 7, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
"Bud Selig's lack of ... a salary cap"
I'm for a salary cap if accompanied by a profits cap. Should limits be imposed on the producers of the product as they market their skills at creating it, but not on the franchise holders, whose history of parsimony (hello "8 Men Out") and collusion goes back over a century?
The arrangement in place now-- the "excise tax" thing-- is imperfect, granted, but substituting a simple salary cap for it is not the answer. The real solution is a four-way agreement among players, owners, fans (via municipalities and individuals) and an independent commissioner's office (instead of a fake one with an owner occupying it), the last of which would be filled by ballot of the first three.
I know, I know: we're a long way from anything like this, and won't take real steps toward it until galvanized by a crisis on the level of 1919. Maybe that's the up-side of the looming blow-up over controlled and performance-enhancing substances...
Agreed
salary floor
i look at as a matter of...
by jq higgins on Aug 7, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions

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