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ALCS Open Thread: TAM (3) @ BOS (1)


Next Game

Tampa Bay Rays
@ Boston Red Sox

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008, 8:07 PM EDT
Fenway Park


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W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Scott Kazmir 12-8 27 27 0 0 0 0 152.1 123 61 59 23 70 166 3.49 1.27


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Daisuke Matsuzaka 18-3 29 29 0 0 0 0 167.2 128 58 54 12 94 154 2.90 1.32

Do or die for the Red Sox, backed by Matsuzaka against Kazmir tonight. Matsuzaka is far better on the road (2.37/1.16) than he is at home (3.34/1.46), but he threw a great game one and the Sox couldn't ask for much better, really.

Kazmir went 0-2 with a 9.00 ERA in four starts against Boston this year.

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This is going to be interesting...

I hope Fenway clears out by the fifth tonight, personally, anyone else?

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Oct 16, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that won't happen

everyone is a HUGE Red Sox fan

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ Upton!!

Hammered the shit out of that ball.

by dkdc on Oct 16, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

BJ Upton, again.

The four Rays fans in Boston right now are stoked.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Oct 16, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Shutup

Diehard.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

That took a while.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Kaz gets knocked up

But the Rays score quite a few runs as well. I’ll say the Sox win this one by two or three.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Love BJ Upton

Good to see the Rays didn’t screw him permanently after the ridiculous brouhaha about finding him a position.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Kazmir’s borderline misses are “he doesn’t have the plate. He’s having control problems.”

Dice-K’s are, “That’s just off the plate.”

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Sprint guy

It’s hard to trust you as an innovative leader when your website doesn’t function properly 68% of the time.

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

every time I see someone using Sprint

it’s in the bad neighborhoods

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the whole stupid nextel chirp thing

the walkie-talkie thing is free. i lived in a kinda bad neighborhood before i moved and it was crawling with ne’er-do-wells doing the nextel chirp.

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

In college when I took the bus through West Philly

that would be ALL i’d hear. so annoying

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Sprint

Your 3G network thingy kind of sucks… although it’s been better lately.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

you haven't seen kazmir throw the slider?

um except to get out of the first inning, you bozo.

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The Red Sox look washed up

I really liked them after the first round, too.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Dice-K

try the GYROBALL!

ahahahahahahahahahaha

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

His body completely sagged

The minute the ball left his hand.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

This is a massacre.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Ron Darling

I don’t think it’s the Sox sitting on Kazmir’s fastball.

I think maybe it’s the other way around.

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

This is awesome.

Imagine what would be happening if the wind wasn’t blowing in tonight.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Oct 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be blowing out?

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good imagination.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Oct 16, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pena and Upton

We offered Pena a minor league deal two years ago but he took a major league from the Rays. We wanted to draft Upton in 2002 with the 4th pick but the O’s rightly predicted he would be gone by then. So we drafted Loewen instead. WOOHOO.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Besides Milwaukee-Tampa

Philadelphia-Tampa was probably the last thing Selig and co wanted.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a feeling Selig

would have loved to have Milwaukee in the WS

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah

But not for league revenue purposes.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Booing Ortiz is pathetic

I don’t feel any pity for Boston fans.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

eh

He’s been atrocious.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was fine in the regular season

And has performed poorly in like ten playoff games. The guy won title for them in 2004. That’s like us booing Cal for 2000/2001.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Cal had stunk up the joint in the ALCS and we were used to him winning playoff games for us, Orioles fans probably would have. Let’s not kid.

Ortiz’s regular season really wasn’t that good either. I mean it was, but not for David Ortiz.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't checked the stats recently

But didn’t he start off attrociously, suffer an injury, and then come back to post a .900 OPS? He must’ve hit around 28 homers too in 400 AB’s or so, right? I just think that the Sox fans booing him is emblematic of how arrogant they are.

I honestly don’t think that O’s fans would’ve gone as far as booing Cal, he was a God amongst men in Baltimore; I guess Ortiz doesn’t have that same status in Boston.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really get booing your own players anyway.

but maybe that’s just me.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do

If they’re out there stinking it up.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's arrogance

An expectation of something more from David Ortiz (perhaps particularly while Manny just set single-postseason records) is more the issue.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is true

But Boston fans booing David Ortiz is still a sign of their arrogance. To me, they think that they’re entitled to only the best and the brightest in all facets of life. I’m not a big fan of Bostonians, though.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah?

They expect their good team that’s built to win to win, not get embarrassed by the Tampa Bay Rays in the ALCS. This damn game ought to have a mercy rule.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're coming from different places

I see it as asshole Boston residents thinking that they are entitled to the best simply because they are from Boston, not because their team is built to win. Ortiz should be untouchable after what he has done for that organization.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's ok

It appears Varitek takes the untouchable spot.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boston fans are assholes

Most of them, anyway, but players stinking it up should get booed.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

guys

Believe it or not.

The Rays have “legitimate starters.”

Buck Martinez says so.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

this b of a ad actually starts with orioles fans. cool.

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

My girlfriend looked at the score and laughed

I think she hates the Red Sox too

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

This is really something

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

ah, yes

Chuck Lamar, former architect of this team. Motherfucker please. He’s responsible for Kazmir (the Mets are more responsible for being that stupid), Crawford isn’t that great, and Baldelli’s career has been a disappointment for a variety of reasons.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

You know what I'm so tired of?

Hearing about how it doesn’t matter that Jason Varitek can’t hit anything because he’s such a good leader and such a good catcher. I’m not discounting those things or anything, but people need to get over it. Today on the way home from work I put on XM and Dibble and Kennedy are going on and on about how it doesn’t matter if he can hit because of everything else he is to the team and the pitching staff and how he holds them together. Then on the way home from the gym I put the game on and the Boston announcers are saying the same thing. Then I get home and put the TV on just in time to hear Buck saying the exact same thing! Oh and Dibble and Kennedy were saying, “It’s a testament to how important he is to the team that the players voted him into the All Star Game. They understand how special and important he is.”

Now I don’t know how much of that is true and how much of that is bullshit, but at this point I don’t even care. Why is everyone kissing his ass so much?

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, Stacey

You just don’t understand. You just don’t understand the Way of the ’Tek.

by zknower on Oct 16, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Varitek

Is even more overrated than Jeter. At least Jeter is a legitimately great player, while Varitek is barely above average.

If Varitek had played for the O’s, he’d be forgotten quicker than Chris Hoiles.

by dkdc on Oct 16, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that's case, why don't they sign Abe Lincoln?

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sure does!

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

"It doesn't matter that he's terrible

and no amount of defense and rah-rah and manly square jaw beard could make up for his hitting."

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that he is overrated

But in his defense, he probably holds the clubhouse together. I’m sure with all the young guys and big egos on that team, a guy like Varitek is useful in keeping some semblance of order. C/SS are not premium offensive positions, and good teams can do without a big hitter behind the plate. Varitek can lead a pitcher through the game, and that is enough to get the hype machine going.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kazmir looks good

I enjoy strikeouts

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

How do we convince the Red Sox

to take Ramon off our hands, and in exchange give us a young arm, or Ellsberry?

by Lothar on Oct 16, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

We could get

ONE MILLION DOLLARS. And a shitty prospect.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ellsbury's been tainted by the Red Sox

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

"in this division..."

THE RED SOX AND YANKEES HAVE NEVER BEEN BAD. EVER.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard Schilling was in the house tonight

They’re already getting nostalgic for 2004. Next thing you know Kevin Millar will parachute into center field.

by Lothar on Oct 16, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

B.J. Upton

He’s Black.

Stolen from Draysbay.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

jesus christ

BJ Upton cannot be contained.

You suck it, Papelboner.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Why did Crisp hit the cutoff man

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

yes yes yes

Leaving fans!

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Philadelphia hasn’t won a title in since 1983. Tampa Bay is on track to win three major sports championships in five years. Go figure.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish Chip Caray would stop pretending that anyone is dancing in the street in “the Tampa/St. Pete area.” They’re not.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure most retirement homes are lights out by 8

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hulk Hogan might be dancing in the street

With his weird man daughter.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

He cheated on his wife with his daughter’s best friend.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

classy man

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hulk Hogan's a pee-imp

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Varitek stinks

They REALLY REALLY need Ramon.
Get on the horn now, MacPhail.

by Lothar on Oct 16, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

He's a great leader

indispensable

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good play by Gross

Not that he is athletic enough to make that catch, but a ball dribbling by would have been bad.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

That's why you don't boo Ortiz.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

well

That should take care of our booing Ortiz discussion, eh?

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps they can boo Varitek next

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES?

We’re comparing David Ortiz hitting a home run off of Grant Balfour to the fucking Miracle on Ice? Shut up, CHIP.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently if the Red Sox aren't in the series

it’s going to be canceled. Red Sox and Yankees are the only teams that matter.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Cubbies

They’re the new Red Sox.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should go to Bradford in the eighth.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

yup.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see that

Considering that he’d have a week off before his next game. Boston is in an awkward position with 5 through 1 coming up.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Rays, wrap it up

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

OH FRANK CALIENDO

“THE DONALD” SAYS “YOU’RE FIRED”

I GET IT!!!!

GOOD TIMING ON A TONY SOPRANO IMPERSONATION, TOO. TOTALLY TIMELY.

YOU COCKSUCKER.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean

They do know funny…

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do like these Brooke Shields commercials

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd like them better 25 years ago

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This postseason pisses me off

I can’t believe the Phillies and Rays are ruining the Series that everyone wants to see

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Brewers - Angels?

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dodgers and Red Sox

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brewers/Angels have history.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

More insightful commentary from Buck Martinez

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a cute couple they keep cutting to.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

HA!

Electificate!!!! BUSH SAYS STUPID THINGS

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that Frank Caliendo is funny

I just wish that they’d show more commercials of his show to really get his name out there.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

sarcasm noted

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apply that to my Brewers/Angels series as well.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh boy

Tampa’s remembered that Boston knows how to win.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

ho-lee shee-it

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

son of a bitch

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe.

Miracle. Magic. History. Sox. Boston. The Departed.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

can this be said

JD Drew is clutch as fuck

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Wheeler's a mess

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow that sucks

Bring in ChadBrad

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

If one guy can reach

Boston is going to have the top of the order up against a worn out Wheeler or Howell. If they were to ever come back…

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

did Chip Caray say...

That there’s extra pressure on Dan Wheeler because he grew up a Red Sox fan?

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

At least it gives us something to watch.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the Rays win

I just want that smug as fuck shithole Papelbon to shut the fuck up and take his ass back to Mississippi or whatever the fuck he came from.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

ahahaha, rec'd

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Casey at bat

u suk

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by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

no joy in Pudville

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by Scott Christ on Oct 16, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Casey at bat

Fail.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the grit of the Red Sox

and how all of their helmets are dirty. They sure have character.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a bad play, he made a terrible stab

He went for a stroll instead of getting on his horse.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

can't believe wheeler is still in

Maddon is the anti-Trembley

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

This is great hitting by Boston

They are making Wheeler throw a ton of pitches, taking every borderline ball, and sitting on the fastball of their choice.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the Red Sox fans better

when they’re quiet

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Crisp will get a pitch here.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

hopefully in the face

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is sitting on a fastball

Low and away, because he has gotten high and tight four straight pitches.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way Wheeler comes in to close it out

They’ll go with Howell over ChadBrad, though.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I know they won 97 games

and I don’t know what their pitching strategy is and I’m sure that Wheeler had his moments, but he ain’t got it tonight. Shoulda been taken out after Drew’s homerun. His pitches are all over the place. He’s clearly not focused. Just get one more strike on Coco…come on…you can do it.
Fuck.

by Lothar on Oct 16, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah dude

Wheeler’s been in way too long. Fahey could have done a better job than him tonight.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT was that throw from Gross?

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by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

FUCKKKKKKKKKK

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Crisp gets the first ball

That isn’t high, which he clearly cannot hit, and gets his equivalent of a home run.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Maddon is going to get skewered tomorrow. That was almost Grady-Pedroque.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the logic was

We’re going to the world series, I want to give my closer confidence.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT

an at bat. Win, lose or draw. Jeez.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 16, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

and it was Coco Crisp of all people

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree

He was excruciatingly uncomfortable with that high fastball and was able to fight it off until he got something lower in the zone.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT

an at bat, Bartlett

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Why wasn't Bradford in before Drew's home run?

That seemed like a good situation for, you know, a groundball pitcher.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Oct 16, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I said it above

But I think that Madden wanted to give his closer confidence going into the series. Inexperience.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddon? Madden?

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Maddon is thinking, “Wheeler is my best reliever, he’s taking me home tonight.”

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

best fans in baseball

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhh

They’re diehard, they were probably going home to delve deeper into the boxscore.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 16, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 16, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on pena

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 16, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Extra innings, guys

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 17, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

everytime someone says "Maddon"

I think of this classy guy

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 17, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that I want the Red Sox to win this

Because I don’t. But I would like to go to bed sometime soon. Some of us have jobs, Tampa Bay Rays!

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 17, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

hey remember when it was 7-0?

and the game was going to be over by midnight?

good times. good times.

by Steve. on Oct 17, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

That was when David Ortiz was bad

And deserving of boos.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

more boos

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're saying Youk

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 17, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was Yoooooooouk

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries

It was hard to distinguish earlier who was booing Ortiz and who was bellowing “Youk.”

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice bunt.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously

Or Bradford.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man

This is dangerous, if this guy gets one hanging curve.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Great pick up by Longoria

bad throw through

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 17, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

oh man!

E5

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 17, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

my cable just went out! WTF?

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 17, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

oh it's back

disregard

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by Stacey on Oct 17, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad throw, worse catch at first

How did I get sucked into this game? I just wanted a quiet night at work, read my magazine when the rush was off (I work at a newspaper). But then the TV was on and…

by Lothar on Oct 17, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

i see fear in jp's eyes

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd go ahead and walk him

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

That is why

I would take my chances with the number 8 hitter over a guy with a 3-1 count.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

What a game.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Oct 17, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Red Sox can eat shit

At least the Rays will win it at home

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 17, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

maddon should be shot.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."

by spike2131 on Oct 17, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

that's what happens when you have an extra chromosome

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Oct 17, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Demoralizing right now for Rays' fans

But they won 2 of 3 at Fenway.
And they’re going home.
I like their chances.
Still, all in all, it was a pretty fucking good game to watch, as painful as the ending was.

by Lothar on Oct 17, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

That was an attrocious job by Maddon

He made a gut decision on Wheeler instead of thinking it through, then he allowed his pitcher to throw to a good hitter with a 3-1 count.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

God

Yes. Who are you to doubt El Dandy? I took a Tylenol PM in the 7th figuring it’d be over soon and I have to get up at 5:30. Oh well. Those in England now abed shall think themselves accurst! HOORAY!

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 17, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 17, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Maddon is the RS MVP

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

You know

I certainly don’t buy into the theory that the Red Sox are grizzled, mystique and aura miracle makers and the Rays are knock-kneed baby men, but watching the last three innings…it’d be hard not to draw that conclusion. Wow.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 17, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

History. Mystique. The Departed.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Oct 17, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

"The Rays must be COMPLETELY dejected"

Yeah, I bet they’re really bumming that they’re only up 3-2 returning to Tropicana.

by zknower on Oct 17, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Come on

I realize you’ve got to be negative about everything involved in a situation like this, but…come on.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 17, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i call it like i see them

whose position would you rather be in? the sox or the rays?

i think we can all agree we’d rather be in the rays’ position.

it doesn’t take away from what was an incredible comeback. it simply points out that when you turn the page, there are still two more chances for the rays to win.

by zknower on Oct 17, 2008 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

word

It was an INCREDIBLE comeback. But come on, the Rays are still up 3-2, at home, with their best starter going against an injured Beckett.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is accurate

And it’ll end the moment Shields take the field… if not earlier. Rob Neyer had an excellent on this whole entry on this “cast down in spirits” garbage. It’s not hidden behind insider content so I’ll post quote his post.

Between Friday morning and Saturday evening (and perhaps beyond), you’re going to hear a great deal about momentum. Me? I don’t put a great deal of stock in it. Not in baseball. If momentum’s so important, then how did the Red Sox come back from seven runs down in the first place? Shouldn’t they have just rolled over, those last few innings? Because the Rays had as much momentum, in both the series and the game, as you’ll see a team have. Does the Red Sox’s newfound momentum mean more, because they’ve been in this spot before? Perhaps. I’m smart enough to know there are things I don’t know. But in this case, what I don’t know will likely be smashed by the starting pitchers in Game 6.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

but they’re bummed. Carl Crawford said it was devastating. Probably irrelevant to whether they win tomorrow or not, but for real. I’d be bummed.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 17, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey look,

no question they’re bummed.

Clinching WS appearance > Losing Game 5.

I don’t think anyone’s arguing they’re not bummed. I’m just arguing that they’re not going to have a difficult time moving beyond last night.

Maybe at the end of the day, we’re agreeing and just arguing over semantics.

by zknower on Oct 17, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably irrelevant to whether they win tomorrow or not, but for real. I’d be bummed.

Sure, I don’t understand the point of your original response to Z then… you seem to be contesting his notion that the Rays are a strong position… we all agree that the Rays might be a bit bummed.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

My original response

was because he seemed to be arguing that it’s wrong to say they’re dejected. Apparently he’s just niggling over an adverb. Whatever.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 17, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll tell you

They probably are. They know as well as anyone else that the Red Sox have staged some miraculous comebacks.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Oct 17, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

they’ll be fine. i’m sure they’re pissed as hell right now, but there won’t a psychological hang over effect.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Oct 17, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

hell of a game

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