Unbiased Postseason Recap: Day Six
So it's settled. Only two steps left until we crown the 2008 champions.
Rays 6, White Sox 2 (Tampa Bay wins series, 3-1)
Can you believe it?!?!?! The Tampa Bay Rays are really heading to the World Series, having laid waste to the White Sox in four games, celebrating on the field on the south side of Chicago.
One thing I'm getting tired of hearing is how the Rays "act like they belong" in the postseason. What's the opposite of acting like you belong? The Cubs? The Brewers? The White Sox? The Angels? The teams that lost to other playoff teams?
Any team that makes it belongs. 162 games are hard. Going .500 is hard, let alone a little or a lot over, and Tampa Bay was a lot over. Let's not keep acting all surprised that this team is good. They jumped on Gavin Floyd fast, chasing him after a little over three innings of work, and had this baby all but sewn up in the fifth inning when they went up 5-1. B.J. Upton hit a home run in the first and another in the third, and Carlos Pena went 3-for-4 to cap off a great LDS where he hit .500.
They got enough out of their starter, Andy Sonnanstine, and went to J.P. Howell and the red-hot Grant Balfour to finish the final three and a third.
They're good. They're really, really good. They "belonged" by July.
Red Sox 3, Angels 2 (Boston wins series, 3-1)
Boston was having their way again, up 2-0 in the eighth, but the Angels came back, showing a lot of grit, and they tied the game at two. Then Mike Scioscia got all Mike Scioscia, and a blowing of the fundamentals screwed the Angels over. Why go into great detail? You saw it.
Bottom of the ninth, Jed Lowrie singles, Jason Bay comes around to score, safe, Boston goes to their fourth ALCS in the last six years.
While Boston fans celebrate this tremendous achievement as though it's the first time it's ever happened, Angels fans whine about not whining, oblivious to the load the rest of the baseball world is supposed to accept about Mike Scioscia and The Right Way of Things Being Done.
I think I just hate every team and every team's fans at this point. Nothing personal.
Who you got in the ALCS? Honestly, I think it's the best matchup for exciting baseball, but I'll have to favor the Boston Red Sox, because they belong in the playoffs and I'm just not sure Tampa Bay does, because in 1998 they were very, very bad. And those uniforms! Mercy.
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I haven't been able to watch much postseason baseball yet
I don’t really get into it until the Championship series.
I did flip past the Sox-Angels game last night and saw Torii Hunter quiet the chanting taunts of Red Sox fans with a 2-run single.
Too bad it didn’t stick, but it was pretty sweet to see how excited Torii was to (temporarily) shove it in Fenway’s face.
Go Rays!
by dkdc on Oct 7, 2008 9:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Only two steps left until we crown the 2008 champions."
Uh, no. Only one step. We’ve been over this, people.
And there actually is a solution. Sort of. If we’re going to have interleague play, and we are, then interleague playoffs are a perfectly sensible idea. As it is now, we have to put up with all this hokum of pretending that the system is funneling the two best teams in the game into a dramatic final series, when everybody but the Pretend Commissioner and your hamster Sparky knows that’s not the case. And Sparky may be catching on.
In effect we have a replay of the AL East finals serving as the World Series. It’s a shame the Angels get so mystically awful at this time of the year— the fifth circle of Dante’s inferno was reserved, if I remember correctly, for those condemned to be known forever as The Best Regular Season Baseball Team, But That’s It— but there’s also something satisfying about getting to watch the Rayz beat the Sawx like a drum again. Oops, forgot: the Sawx have Playoff Experience…
Rayz in 5.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Oct 7, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are they really even the best team in regular season baseball?
I mean, their record says so. But much like a name. what’s in a record?
Examples:
Angels: 100-62
Rays: 97-65, 3GB
The record for the rest of the AL EAST (not even including PHN, because there is one less team in the WEST): 243-242 .501
(Damn we REALLY brought down the division)
The record for the rest of the AL WEST: 215-270 .443, 28GB
now to include the Rays and Angels
AL EAST: 340-307 .526
AL WEST: 315-332 .487, 25GB
I’m not really sure what all of this means except that even without the second place team in the AL EAST that division is far superior to the AL WEST, and Rays only finished 3 games worse than the Angels. So, ladies and gentlemen of the jury… I ASK YOU… What’s in a record?
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Oct 7, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
The Angels went 30-16 against AL East opponents. They dominated.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 7, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The true AL EAST champion...
The O’s. Coming in at a solid 22-50 vs. the AL East.
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Oct 7, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And their away record was so good it looked like a typo. They could play anywhere, and did. Making their annual crash 'n' burn that much more unbelievable.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Oct 8, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
we could get the commish to let us trade divisions with them.
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Oct 8, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of this decade’s World Series champions, five of eight (so, one more than half) have come from the juggernaut American League, truly an unstoppable force because the Rockies Jesus Magic’d their way in last year.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 7, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that was magic, what was St Louis???
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Oct 7, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dumb fucking luck
Another thing that just happens sometimes. My point is not that the National League is genuinely as good as the American League, because it’s not. Anyone can see that. But in a five- or seven-game series, these things happen. There is no reason to just consider the ALCS as the end of it all.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 7, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, you get anomalies in a game in which really bad teams win 40% of their games-- and one of them, a Halley's Comet of MLB
was the stupid 83-game-winning-in-a-loser-league-but-World-Champeen St. Lousy Cardinals. You grind your teeth for a while and life goes on.
And the way it should go on, as noted above, is with interleague playoffs— an idea, judging by this thread, whose time has come…to draw determined yawns. C’mon, maybe if 4 AL teams were the only competitors after Oct. 10 or so, the light bulb might go on even over the benighted head of PC Bud. No guarantees, of course, but we can dream…
Actually, Halley’s Comet isn’t really an anomaly, come to think of it, since it shows up like clockwork every 75 years. But hey, you get what I mean.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Oct 8, 2008 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all a crap shoot
But I have to go with the Devil Rays. Can’t imagine how annoying Red Sox fans will become with another WS title.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Oct 7, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But can you imagine how annoying they'll get
after they get beat by the Playoff Virgins?
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Oct 7, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably no more annoying than they are now
In fact listening to them bitch and moan about losing in the playoffs would probably be worse. But maybe that’s just me.
On a sort of similar note, I was again listening to Chicago sports radio, and this hilariously distraught Cubs fan called in and was talking about Lou Piniella saying that if they had started the regular season on a three-game losing streak, they’d just be 0-3. And then the dude goes, "IT’S NOT THE REGULAR SEASON, YOU DORK
!"
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 7, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slight typo above....
The Rays are headed to the ALCS, not the World Series. It’s next week that they’ll be headed to the World Series.
That said, here’s a great article in the Times about how they went from worst to first with the lowest payroll in the AL.
An excerpt:
Gone are the days when the team would drop $10 million on a high school phenom who simply flamed out in the minor leagues (Matt White).
Acquiring one-dimensional lugs like Greg Vaughn and Vinny Castilla — who both became Devil Rays on perhaps the franchise’s darkest day at the 1999 winter meetings — is a nightmare not soon relived.
Much will be made this week about how the Rays, who still have the A.L.’s lowest payroll at about $44 million, learned to walk upright over the past several years. Fine scouting has led to the development of several homegrown stars (third baseman Evan Longoria, center fielder B.J. Upton and ace James Shields), but most key youngsters have arrived in astute trades (starters Matt Garza and Scott Kazmir, relievers Grant Balfour and J.P. Howell, catcher Dioner Navarro and more). Second baseman Akinori Iwamura was imported from Japan, first baseman Carlos Peña from major league oblivion.
Baseball always hears about rebuilding plans, but usually when they’re just beginning (during apologetic trade-deadline fire sales) or when they’re ending (with handshakes all around). What distinguishes the Rays’ rebuilding plan is the unwavering confidence with which it was continuously executed. One of the reasons Maddon can shrug off underdog talk after 100 wins is that he did during 101 losses.
Peter Angelos, Hank Steinbrenner, take note.
by zknower on Oct 7, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I might add
it’s poetic justice to me that “dirt-kickin” Lou Pinella will be watching the Rays from home. This is the same Pinella who was pissed at Rays mgmt a couple years ago for planning too much for the future and not enough for the present—so pissed that he left the team because in his mind, they were going about it all the wrong way.
Too bad Lou. If you’d kept your yap shut and let the FO do their thing, YOU might be the one on the verge of a WS ring—your first in nearly 20 years.
by zknower on Oct 7, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Titov is correct
when he agrees that the above “typo” is in fact not a typo, the god’s honest russian truth. The World Series is this series.
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Oct 7, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a nice idea,
but stranger things have happened in baseball than the inferior league/team actually winning the WS.
Witness the ‘06 Cards. I’m sure people called the Detroit-A’s series the “real” WS that year, but the wild card Cards are the onesw with the rings.
by zknower on Oct 7, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was more fascinated that season that one of the Tigers or A’s would be going to the World Series. It intrigued the hell out of me.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 7, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Angels thread
is amazing. Some of those people take after the perpetually bewildered Angels pitching coach who has never, EVER seen one of his guys throw a ball. Of all the outrageous things. And obviously none of his hitters would ever TAKE A STRIKE!!! (Actually that’s probably true!)
by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 7, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://proxy.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3630260
And John Lackey fits right in with the rest of these dopes. Too bad really.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on Oct 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, what a bunch of crybaby losers.
“We are way better than they are. We lost to a team not as good as us.”
Um, I guess, the Red Sox were better that you for three of these past four games, no?
Douchebags. Maybe you needed a little humble pie.
by zknower on Oct 7, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not unusual to find irrational thoughts after an emotional loss.
Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."
by birdman on Oct 7, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unbiased?
Is this…THE NO SPIN ZONE????
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Oct 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This should be a close series.
I think I still actually favor the Sox—trying not to be biased here—because of the run differentials and Boston having Drew healthy again. I’m optimistic, but this is going to be tight.
(Oh crap, they’ll probably hit me for reminding them I’m a Sox fan…think of something pro-Orioles…quick!)
Brian Roberts is still sexy!
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Oct 7, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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