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Free Agents can begin talking to other teams this Friday, and Yahoo has a nifty list of Free Agents that will be updated as the off season progresses. I'll be glad when Teixeira is signed somewhere and we can stop pretending he'll end up in Baltimore.

Trades! Reports are the Matt Holliday has been traded to the Oakland A's. In return for Holliday, the A's will send the Rockies Carlos Gonzalez, Greg Smith, and Huston Street. This trade perplexes me just a bit as it seems to be the opposite of Billy Beane's MO, although if he in turn flips Holliday before the deadline I'll feel better about my understanding of the world. Beane is regarded as being brilliant, and I'll give him that his trades do make sense generally, but he is perpetually rebuilding which will never let the A's catch the Angels. Maybe Billy Beane is realizing that.

In the "who cares" category, the Nationals traded Emilio Bonafacio plus minor leaguers to the Marlins for Josh Willingham and Scott Olsen. The Nats were just god awful last year so they can use any pitching they can get, even if it is Scott Olsen.

No news on the Orioles front yet, although that's hardly surprising. If Andy doesn't pick up his snail pace this off season I might go insane. In looking for any information on the O's, I found mlb.com's Orioles Hot Stove Blog. Nothing much going on over there except for the Khalil Greene rumor and Danyz Baez's desire to be a starter, but it might be a good place to keep an eye on.

Tomorrow is the big Orioles rally at the Gallery to reveal their new uniforms. Some info on the uniforms from Roch's blog. It seems that Nick Markakis, Jeremy Guthrie, and George Sherrill will be there for the big reveal. A co-worker and I are planning on taking a long lunch to check it out, so hopefully I'll get some good pictures for you.

 

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I'd like to see Markakis extended soon

We all know that Andy can’t concentrate on more than one thing at a time, and the offseason really gets going on Friday.

by dkdc on Nov 11, 2008 10:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Markakis probably isn't going to be a priority this year

He’s just entering his first arbitration year; so if they can work something out then great; but next year is where you really need to decide what you’re going to do.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 11, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the longer you wait, more leverage you lose

If they wait another year, he’ll be another year closer to free agency and less likely to accept a deal and it’ll take more money. Nicky will be more open to having his free agency years bought out now than a year from now.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Nov 11, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But it's also a bigger gamble

And you’re paying out more money now.

If it happens this year than great, but I don’t think it should be a priority.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 11, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it is a bigger gamble

Nicky could turn into a pumpkin this year and then you’re stuck with him. But the reward is higher. You could potentially get for him for a cheaper price for more years. I’ll take that gamble.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Nov 11, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You only do it if you can lock up some free agent years

Yes, every long term contract is a risk, but signing a young, healthy hitter to a long-term deal is about low-risk as it gets.

The O’s could play it really safe and go year-to-year with all of their young players and let them leave after 6 years, but it’s hard to see how they would ever build a contender that way.

It also sends a message that may help the Orioles sign other free agents.

by dkdc on Nov 11, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not suggesting to let them go at 6

But he’s 3 years away from FA. If he’s going to give the O’s a big discount on some of his FA years and you can get it done, then great. But next year is the point where you really need to get it done. A 6 year deal is a pretty huge risk no matter who the player; 5 years seems mcuh less risky to me; and either way, you’re getting 3 FA years.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 11, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then sign him to a 5 year deal now

Nick is just getting to the big bucks phase of his career, and I think next year he’ll be a lot less willing to sacrifice future earnings for certainty. This might be the last chance to get him at a bargain for those free agent years.

Yes, it’s riskier to sign him now than next year, but the O’s need to take some risks to compete, and this is a pretty calculated risk.

by dkdc on Nov 11, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

like i said below...

not a bad deal for the nats, i think. you can mock scott olsen all you’d like, but 200 innings of 99 era+ would have probably been worth a few extra wins for last year o’s. not to mention, willingham put up an ops + that would have been exceeded only by huff and markakis.

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Nov 11, 2008 11:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Olsen isn't awful

that’s not what I said. He’s just not the sort of pitcher that gets anyone excited about anything. He’ll give the innings and he won’t embarrass himself, but he’s uninspiring. Of course every team needs that. I don’t know enough about Emilio Bonafacio to evaluate the trade with any confidence.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Nov 11, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

now, now...

i didn’t put any words in your mouth, but you did assume a mocking tone re: olsen, no? all I’M saying is that he would present a pretty significant upgrade over anyone the o’s trotted out last year besides the saint.

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Nov 11, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose it was a little mocking

but just a little.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Nov 11, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Olsen's also a troublemaking a-hole with a shit attitude

It has been listed as the biggest detriment to his career over and over.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Nov 11, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Nats certainly are becoming the Home for Wayward Major Leaguers, that’s for sure.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Nov 11, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Elijah Dukes a baaad man

But Lasting and Wily Mo aren’t really that bad.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Nov 11, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd still talk Olsen over some of the clowns we have

I think he’s a decent pitcher. Bad attitude and kind of a big asshole, but Garrett Olson is a nice guy and what has he given us? Ulcers and grey hairs.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Nov 12, 2008 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

But Olsen is really an asshole from all accounts. Like such an asshole that I think Melvin Mora for sure would take a swing at him. Then probably cry a lot after he missed. Which would prompt Luke Scott to intervene, and then Markakis tries to break it up, and Olsen mouths off, and Markakis punches Olsen, and Markakis breaks his fucking hand. Scott Olsen broke Nick Markakis’ hand. Garrett Olson never did that, because Garrett Olson doesn’t care about baseball. Like Adam Dunn, who strikes out too much because he wishes he’d have played football instead. Like J.R. House.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Nov 12, 2008 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All this talk about football...

And you forgot to mention that Darin Erstad used to be a PUNTER! For NEBRASKA! Holy hell, is he available?

by Brotz13 on Nov 12, 2008 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And by "all this football"

I of course mean “one mention of football”. Sorry, just thinking about gritty gutty gutsy dirty Darin Erstad makes me lose focus.

by Brotz13 on Nov 12, 2008 10:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but, luckily...

much like scott olsen, garrett olson is fond of giving up home runs and NOTHING kills a rally like a home run.

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Luke Scott intervened

it would be over. That guy packs heat.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Nov 12, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but...

then he’d turn the dude on to jesus.

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

mlbtraderumors.com

Is high traffic. Not a lot of focus on O’s, mainly because not much is out there.

I vote for a Markakis extension. How about 6/70 (7, 8.5, 10, 11.5, 13, 14.5) with club options for the last few years?

Curt never met a buttered roll he didn't like.

by CoachOfEarl on Nov 11, 2008 12:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Koji Uehara

The O’ss are interested in this Japanese free agent.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/11/koji-uehara-com.html

Supposedly the O’s have been scouting Japan pretty heavily this year. This guy seems like an ideal fit: He’ll eat up some innings in the rotation and he won’t cost anything but salary (not even a draft pick).

by dkdc on Nov 11, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

even better?

you see that walk rate? i think they say he’s never walked more than 30 dudes over teh course of a season.

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Nov 11, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that will change once he gets to Baltimore

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Nov 12, 2008 12:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

seems like a good move

Hopefully the O’s can get him signed. He seems to fit the category the O’s should be looking for in stop gap pitching.

by edsachs1 on Nov 11, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We can only wish Baltimore gets it right

and signs a decent to maybe above average starter from Japan. If this guy is a decent bet as a solid #3 starter, it could be one of the best moves for the O’s of the off season.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 12, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It would only be a stop gap measure

The guy is going to be 35 at the start of next season. And Japanese pitchers aren’t really known for their longevity.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 12, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t have the link, but heyman of SI? i think, said the orioles remain his favorite suitor for……..

yes! manny ramirez! not exactly what you were expecting? me either, but its on mlbtraderumors.com

What up?

by snakethejake on Nov 11, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

manny in baltimo?

I think he’ll be an oriole after his next contract expires. He’s only 37.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Nov 11, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

in other news...

i think my gf and I are going to make the trek from jersey to bmore tomorrow on a whim and go see the unveiling in the harbor. if you see a 6’1 guy with a cartoon o’s hat on and a blonde girlfriend, feel free to say howdy.

"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17

by daveh873 on Nov 11, 2008 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that narrows it down

if you see a guy with two arms and a hat, that’s me.

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Nov 12, 2008 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this thread's snark brought to you by exitfare...

my, my…who pissed in your wheaties?

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2008 8:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No pissing required.

Exit was on the mark.

btw – if you see a guy with no arms or legs, that’s Bob. (Assuming you see him in the harbor.)

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 12, 2008 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

S-O-S!

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Nov 13, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bob

AKA our new SS

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Nov 12, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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