Election Day 08
by NawlinsOriole on Nov 4, 2008 4:14 PM EST
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Barack Obama (D) John McCain (R)
After all the months of hoopla we have finally reached the day that we have all been waiting for. Election Day 2008 has finally arrived. By late tonight or earlier tomorrow morning we will finally find out who the next President of the United States is going to be. Will it be Sen. Barack Obama or Sen. John McCain? The choice is up to you.
GET OUT AND EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE!
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for crying out loud...
get out and do your thing, people.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
vote early, vote often
Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."
by birdman on Nov 4, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I voted
Now I get a free coffee or donut. My polling place had chocolate chip cookies, too.
I love democracy.
C'mon, Andy. I want to riot, too.
by BrianS on Nov 4, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Free ice cream, too!
Although I haven’t actually gotten any of my free stuff.
If that’s not reason to vote, I don’t know what is :)
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Nov 4, 2008 5:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There’s no Ben & Jerry’s near me or I’d have that, too!
Damn you Ben & Jerry!
C'mon, Andy. I want to riot, too.
by BrianS on Nov 4, 2008 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't vote
it only encourages them. Actually do vote!
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Nov 4, 2008 6:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Prediction
Popular Vote
Obama – 52%
McCain – 47%
Other – 1%
Electoral Vote
Obama – 335+
I’m not buying this bullshit that the liberals are going to sweep the Congressional races; obvious weak links like Dole are going to be phased out, but this widespread ousting of the Republican Party is trash if you ask me. Relatively speaking.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 4, 2008 8:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Found my sheet
Obama – 349
McCain – 189
*Not taking into account Maine/Nebraska split votes.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 4, 2008 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're good
Duck Around - a progressive blob about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Nov 5, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair...
no one’s talked about liberals sweeping. dems, likely. not the same thing at all.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2008 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
O.K.
But the leaders of their party could not be any more liberal. I wouldn’t exactly call Reid/Pelosi/Obama centrist-left.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 4, 2008 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't really matter...
if a healthy chunk of your caucus is moderate/conservative.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter as much as it used to
But it does matter, make no mistake about that.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 4, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eh?
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2008 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Party leaders don’t matter as much as they used to in the days of political machines, but minority/majority leaders do still have substantial push and pull.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 4, 2008 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they certainly could be more liberal
America’s two-party system results in a relatively centrist political process, and America is still right-of-center when you consider other “First World” nations.
by pipkin on Nov 4, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still somewhat true
But a relatively outdated train of thought.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 4, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
What’s outdated? Disgust over the two-party system? Aside from brief interludes resulting either from the collapse of one party or the rise of smaller, issue-oriented third parties we’ve never had an alternative. Certainly not a stable one.
Or about right-of-center? Europe is shifting to the right, yes, especially on economic matters. American is still much more socially conservative than peer nations.
by pipkin on Nov 5, 2008 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does liberal mean
educated, intelligent, thoughtful, open-minded, non-bigoted, not controlled by the lunatic fringe christian right, and believing that government is an agent of good?
by O'sFan21 on Nov 5, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
For example, Thomas Jefferson was obviously all of those things, yet he certainly would not fit into the contemporary definition of “liberal.”
by PhilR8 on Nov 5, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and actually...
it might be a stretch to say that jefferson thought of the government as an agent of good.
in fact, if you consider jefferson and jackson to be the two early big time dems and lincoln and roosevelt the early republicans, you can see that maybe things have flipped a bit.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 5, 2008 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering that the alternative to government
was despotic rule…. I think Jefferson loved the idea of government as an agent of good. He wasn’t an anarchist. Only anarchists see government as agents of, uh, “bad.” Jefferson liked government – limited government.
by PhilR8 on Nov 5, 2008 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
i dunno, man. federalists certainly considered him an anarchist. isn’t the whole “government which governs least, governs best” his mantra? sounds more like guarded skepticism than any true affinity.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 5, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't a history blog
…but yeah he was against big federal government. Until of course he went to Washington and expanded the federal government.
The more times change.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 5, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because I was born post 1865
I have no reason to believe that government is an agent of good. None.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 5, 2008 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The latter
I think that idea was somewhat valid pre 2007, but now I think that it’s just antiquated. Not only is Europe drifting further to the right, but America is also becoming progressively liberal. Having a consummate conservative president pass an $800+ billion dollar bailout package is not my idea of a centrist-right country. Take a look at this election cycle: a liberal versus an ultra liberal. I don’t think these things are set in stone, but at the moment, America is not a conservative leaning country in my eyes.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 5, 2008 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
“I wouldn’t exactly call Reid/Pelosi/Obama centrist-left.”
By whose definition? Fox News? Name me one piece of legislation Pelosi, Reid or Obama has pushed that has been a significant departure from what the corporate lobby wants. Just one. Bear in mind their opposition and those that support them are the most far right political party in terms of economics in any industrialized democracy on Earth. These people called Bill Clinton a liberal. The most conservative Democratic President of the past 60 years at least. But for whatever reason, these stupid labels stick…probably because people are too lazy to learn about what they’re talking about when it come to politics.
by Jonny Pops on Nov 7, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Current Electoral Count
Obama- 207
McCain- 135
Note: Obama won Ohio. No candidate has ever won the presidency without carrying the state of Ohio.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Nov 4, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no REPUBLICAN...
obviously, presidents have won before ohio was a state and i think JFK won w/o OH.
this shit’s over, though.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah You're Right
But yeah it’s still over
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Nov 4, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Networks won't call it yet
But this is over.
Cali 55
Hawaii 4
Washington 11
Oregon 7
Obama 284 without any close states
by dkdc on Nov 4, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
called.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McCain/Lieberman 2012!
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 4, 2008 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
mccain might be dead... but im with you
by semaj2989 on Nov 4, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
horace greeley in 1872?
yeesh i hope not
by pipkin on Nov 5, 2008 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you got on here just to say that
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Nov 5, 2008 2:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations to President-elect Obama
I drank a beer to you tonight, good sir!
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Nov 5, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
just one?
you’ve changed, man.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 5, 2008 7:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I picked up her slack
When your local Dem HQ is in the same complex as a bar, well, no one stays sober.
Duck Around - a progressive blob about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Nov 5, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so, what say you?
is kratovil reppin the lower, slower or what?!
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Nov 5, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, don't get me started
We’re counting absentee ballots in MD-01 today. I was at Dem HQ until almost 2 am Tuesday, and at school on time Wednesday. The absentees received, broken down by party afill and county, look good for us. We won’t know officially until next Friday.
Duck Around - a progressive blob about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Nov 6, 2008 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Democratic Party has a long history
of ensuring voters have easy access to alcohol on election day.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 10, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
capitalism had a nice run.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Nov 5, 2008 10:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is that Joe the Plumber????
I guess you don’t have a very good understanding of economics or tax policy.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 5, 2008 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
George
the Electrician. But thanks for asking.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Nov 5, 2008 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess that was an affirmative to my second point. Understood.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 5, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm neither a plumber nor an electrician...
… but know enough about economic policy to know that the President has very little impact on it.
It was interesting to note last week when I was out at an urban wetland with a bunch of 7th and 8th graders and while taking a break from the science to eat lunch, one of the students made pretty much this same observation. Amazing that a 7th grader has a better grasp of what’s real and isn’t than a lot of adults. Of course they were a pretty bright bunch.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 10, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please inform me...
What part of Robin Hood politics is Capitalist?
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Nov 7, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Make that REVERSE Robin Hood
Take from the poor and give to the rich…
Duck Around - a progressive blob about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Nov 8, 2008 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a reminder to everyone
If you wish to comment in this thread, please keep it friendly. This isn’t a political blog and as you all know talking about politics is tricky. Thanks! Disagreeing is one thing, treating someone like they are stupid for not sharing your beliefs is another and in my opinion, not warranted in this environment.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Nov 5, 2008 11:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think I heard "don't forget to vote" about every 15 minutes.
As if that was even possible.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 5, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS: VOTERS ENCOUNTER LINES
OUTRAGE SPREADS TO CNN FOR 14 HOURS
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Nov 5, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha
Well said.
And, since we’re shooting the bull on politics, a gem from Curt Schilling’s blog, 38 Pitches:
“(Anyone wishing to use this as a reason for me to vote against him can zip it, I don’t have a job, I am likely retired, and the tax threshold means squat to me. I am now a small business owner in a start up and there is nothing he’s proposed that is going to help me hire new employees or maintain the best health care coverage in the industry my company is in. I’m going to have to do that despite him if he’s elected)”
Mwaa haaa . . . Curt Schilling, worried about taxes? Alright, I get that. I was reading today that agents are already considering the tax consequences of Obama’s election on their clients’ contracts, but Schilling worried because he’s a “small business owner”? He’s got more money than all of us combined! Ain’t nothin’ small about him!
by blawk359 on Nov 5, 2008 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please,
someone call a wahhhhhhhhmbulance for Curt.
by zknower on Nov 5, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Curt is a gem of the lunatic right.
Supposedly dedicated to finding a cure for ALS, but part of a party that vehemently opposes stem cell research. Makes perfect sense. Jerkoff.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 5, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm part of that party...
but I don’t oppose stem cell research.
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Nov 7, 2008 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How much do you know about stem cell research?
My knowledge base is pretty slim, but at least I am aware of the following.
Most people opposed to it are not specifically opposed to the research as a whole. Just that portion that entails use of cells harvested from embryos. (Interesting term that – harvesting.)
Embryonic stem cells are not the only ones available for research. Although they initially showed the most promise early on, continuing research is now apparently getting good results with other forms of stem cells. (I say apparently because my only current source for this is a recent piece on NPR. I didn’t do any follow on research.)
Being opposed to the use of “disgarded” embyros for research does not classify one as a lunatic. Exactly what is it that is patently invalid about the belief that life starts at the moment of conception? It was not too long ago that people argued that a life did not become a “person” until the moment of birth. Yet today I personally know kids who are running around that didn’t make it through the end of the 2nd trimester. Who knows, perhaps someday our knowledge will extend to the point that a newly fertilized egg can be maintained outside of the womb until it is ready to be “born”. Who then will be on the “right” side of that argument?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 10, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CURT, JUST WONDERING HOW YOUR REHAB IS GOING AND WHAT KIND OF OFF SEASON PROGRAM YOU WILL GO ON. ARE YOU COMING BACK TO PITCH IN 2009??? I HOPE YOU GET REST AND COMEBACK READY TO ROLL NEXT SEASON. AS A FAN I WISH YOU THE BEST AND HOPE FOR A SPEEDY RECOVERY. I THINK I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF REDSOX NATION, SAYING YOU WERE TRULY MISSED THIS SEASON. I KNOW IF YOU WERE 100% HEALTHY THEN THE SOX WOULD HAVE CELEBRATED ANOTHER CHAMPIONSHIP. YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ATTITUDE IS ONE OF A WINNER. GET WELL AND GOD BLESS……
RAVISHINGRON39
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Nov 5, 2008 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(facepalm)
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Nov 7, 2008 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what...
I don’t care how much money someone has… or how they made it (as long as it was legally)… there’e no room for punishing hard work, and being successful. I just don’t understand how taxing those who make more than 250,000 (or is it 125,000 now) is “fair.”
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Nov 7, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Make you a deal
If we could just move tax rates back to the last time the economy GREW jobs and the government ran a yearly surplus, would you take it?
Congratulations, you’ve just endorsed Barack Obama’s plan to return the tax rates back to the Clinton rates of the 1990s.
Seriously, for those above $250,000 all he’s doing is going back to the Clinton tax rates. And he’s keeping the Bush tax cuts for everyone below that. So apparently, 35% is capitalism, but 38.5% is socialism.
Duck Around - a progressive blob about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Nov 8, 2008 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope..
they’re both socialist… There are other ways to get things done without taxes. And for the record, I reject your deal.
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Nov 9, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People who make over 125,000 a year
are taxed less than those below in terms of percentage. It changes to a flat amount. Thus someone who makes 38 million dollars a year is taxed the same as someone who makes 125,000 a year. What he wants to do isn’t punishing people with more money. Its making them pay the same percentage as someone who pulls in minimum wage.
by Pack Man on Nov 9, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
U.S. Election on Moscow Radio: A Nice Moment
Garry Kasparov, democratic politician and former world chess champion, commenting early yesterday morning on Radio Echo-Moscow (as he was watching CNN’s big board): "Look, he’s taking Virginia. Obama is taking Virginia!! Do you know what this means?!?"
I grew up in Virginia, when restaurants, theaters and other businesses were segregated for White and Colored users. When authorities closed a county school system rather than integrate it. When a white man could be physically ejected from a court of law for sitting with black people in the courtroom— as happened to my father.
Yes, I have a sense of what it means. And I was glad to hear that someone famous and respected here did as well. So glad I found I had to wipe my glasses.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Nov 6, 2008 6:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
To 2632 and all of you who pitched in for the cause: Thanks and well done!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Nov 6, 2008 6:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obama and VA
I spent most of the evening flicking between NBC and CBS. At one point, both had cut in with local coverage (WBAL and WJZ), so I jumped over to Comedy Central just in time to see William and Mary grad Jon Stewart call Virginia for Obama. It was a pretty cool moment.
I work in DC, and one of my coworkers lives in Northern Virginia (a.k.a. “Communist Country”). He was talking about all the razzing he’s gotten over the years from friends in Maryland, and how the results of the past few elections (2006 and 2008) have finally given him some equal footing with them.
by Brotz13 on Nov 6, 2008 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Proud member of Communist Country/Fake VA and it feels great to have done my part to turn this redneck state blue.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 6, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
non-bigoted, huh?
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Nov 7, 2008 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Titov!
My first 2 campaigns I ever worked on delivered decisive ass-kickings on Tuesday. I should just retire now, with my perfect record intact.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Nov 7, 2008 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You and me both
Meet your new MD-01 Congressman-elect Frank Kratovil.
Duck Around - a progressive blob about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Nov 8, 2008 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, have you considered campaigning in the Orioles front office? Please!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Nov 9, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoever wanted a McCain Lieberman ticket in 2012
You’re welcome to take Lieberman off our hands. In fact, you can have him right now, if you want.
I live in Connecticut, and we’re trying to figure out a way to have Joe recalled (ala Gray Davis).
Thanks everybody above who worked to secure this great victory. I was living in a state where the outcome was pretty much assured, so I did as much as I could to help the “down ticket” candidates. And, it must’ve worked, because New England now has no Republican representatives in the U.S. House. I think that says more about the failings of the Republican Party than the “enlightenment” of New England. Because we have our share of idiots up here too.
by Lothar on Nov 6, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure
No one would vote for a 76 year old senator and his liberal independent running mate. That was a joke.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Nov 6, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They'll run for President in '12
President and VP of Shady Acres Nursing Home, that is.
by Brotz13 on Nov 7, 2008 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have your share..
… and then some. (I’m referring to NE as a whole, not Connecticut. Mass alone seems to be a magnet for them.)
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 10, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking from the Democrat-turned-Libertarian point of view...
I don’t like taxes. No one does. I think they should be lowered across the board for everyone. But I didn’t buy into the Joe the Plumber fantasy that I’ll ever have a quarter mil to buy my own business. Not. Gonna. Happen. So I really don’t worry too much about Ds taking away money that I’ll never have.
As for the “culture war” nonsense, from my point of view Palin is the gift that keeps on giving. The Voodoo People, the Snake Handlers & the Flying Monkeys will have a hard time being taken seriously by very many people after her.
But what really motiviates me is foreign policy. I don’t think wars should be fought because of a president’s oil lust, personal vanity or unresolved daddy issues. You go to war when you’ve been attacked & then ONLY against those who attacked you. No exceptions.
So I could have voted for Barr in the belief that when Obama claimed to oppose “dumb wars” he was being as phoney as the semi-evolved simian who promised a “humble foreign policy”. But instead I decided to trust him & come back to the Ds for the 1st time in 16 years.
And now it’s just a matter of waiting. Let’s see how he does.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 9, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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