The Original Orioles 1882-1884
by Orioles 1894 on Dec 10, 2008 6:42 PM EST
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PrintI am not sure if this is something you all are looking for here on CC so let me know if you don't want this type of posting here and I'll make sure this is the last one. I'll put a poll below so you can vote to let me know. :) I get bored during the off season and enjoy expanding my knowledge about the history of Baltimore Baseball. I'll share some here if you all decide you like this type of post. I'll probably post twice a week at most.
The Original Orioles began, not in the NL or in 1892. The Club was actually a last minute fill in for another team that decided to not participate in the first season of the American Association in 1882. Made up of whatever players the owners could find the Orioles got off to a rather rough start. They had the worst offense and defense in the league and finished in last, of course. The record was 19-54 .260 32.5 GB. The team hit .207 and made 490 errors. Doc Landis led the team with 11 wins and led the league in losses with 27. Henry Myers was the first manager.
1883 saw new owners named Von Der Horst, Houck and Barnie. The Von Der Horst's owned a Brewery. Barnie became the manager. The team had another awful year, but made money for the new owners at Union Park which seated about 6,000. Jim Clinton and Dave Rowe both hit .313 and led the offense which hit .246 for the year. The Orioles again finished last with a 28-68 .292 37 GB. John Coleman led the team with 12 wins and led the league with losses, a whopping 48!
1884 saw the fortunes change for the Orioles. In a 13 team American Association the Orioles finished 6 with a 63-43 .594 11.5 GB. Jim Clinton led the offense with a .270 BA, Joe Sommer had 129 hits and scored 96 runs, the most on the team that season. Bob Emslie led the team with 32 wins while Hardie Henderson struck out 346 batters. The Orioles pitching staff led the league with 635 K's in 1884. Billy Barnie finally had a winning season as Manager.
Thats the first three years.... comments?
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Good stuff
I don’t have time anymore to read up on these kinds of things. It might nice to have a blog historian, so to speak.
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
Everyone has their niche
This is yours. Educates while being entertaining. Always good qualities to have in a post. Keep it up!
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
I'd like to know what all of the regular posters' niches are
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
you're "the funny guy"
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by Scott Christ on Dec 10, 2008 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I am glad that you're pointing out
that I am not very funny, and in reality, I am the curmudgeonly guy that sits in the corner cracking wise
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
don't sell yourself short
You’re a regular Dave Coulier.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by Scott Christ on Dec 10, 2008 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
that's like salt in my wounds!
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
why'd you have to go and do that?
there’s a long and prod tradition of curmudegeonly, corner-sitting wise-cracker…
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Dec 11, 2008 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
thank you exitfare and duck for your kind compliments....
they are deeply appreciated. :) Lets hope the Orioles can once again rule the League!!!
"The main idea is to win"-John McGraw
by Orioles 1894 on Dec 11, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I can't get enough of this stuff
I’m big on the history of sports in Baltimore; I find the Bullets, Colts, and 19th century O’s pretty cool. However, above all the Blast shine true.
These write-ups are great – welcome to the blog and keep posting.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
GREAT PICTURE!!! I only wish we could see them in action....
The Old Orioles are the type of team I like, scrappy, fiesty and will do whatever it takes to win! :) Thank you for the welcome and the kind compliment. :)
"The main idea is to win"-John McGraw
by Orioles 1894 on Dec 11, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Orioles 1894
Do you know where this version of the Orioles or the NL Orioles played their games within the actual city? Is there any remnants of a stadium there. Sounds like that could be a good day trip.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
I posted a Fan Post on this, hoipe it helps. :)
"The main idea is to win"-John McGraw
by Orioles 1894 on Dec 11, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I've read up a bit on the late 19th-century Orioles
They were the best team in baseball during the 1890’s, if I remember correctly. Won a bunch of championships in a row.
I also remember reading that they lost a championship series because the players didn’t give a shit about winning anymore. Although I could be wrong.
This brings to mind the character
from Homicide, played by Steve Buscemi, who was a NY Yankees fan because the MFY were the “original Baltimore Orioles”
From Wikipedia:
The New York Yankees are a professional baseball team based in the borough of the Bronx, in New York City, New York. The Yankees are a member of the Eastern Division of Major League Baseball’s American League. One of the American League’s eight charter franchises, the club was founded in Baltimore, Maryland in 1901 as the Baltimore Orioles, moved to New York City in 1903, becoming known as the New York Highlanders before being officially renamed the “Yankees” in 1913.3 From 1923 to 2008, the Yankees’ home was Yankee Stadium. In 2009, they are scheduled to move into a new stadium, also to be called “Yankee Stadium”.4
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
For those interested here are the 1901 and 1902 O's uniforms....
"The main idea is to win"-John McGraw
I'd kill for the O's to wear those 1901 road uni's
I guess we’re a different franchise, though, as that Baltimore team moved to New York.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
I like those uni's too....
Lots of teams do the retro day and I wish the O’s would do so with those uniforms. They have to be the most unique ones I’ve ever seen. Of course, I am excluding those 1970’s White Sox softball uniforms for they were ugly!
"The main idea is to win"-John McGraw
by Orioles 1894 on Dec 11, 2008 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
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