MacPhail says O's "final" offer could go up
by SC on Dec 19, 2008 9:59 AM EST
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From the Sun, which was probably already covered in the other thread, but whatever:
"If they came back to us and told us what it would take and we thought that it made sense for us, then, yes" the original offer could be altered, MacPhail said.ESPN.com reported yesterday that the Orioles were likely out of the Teixeira sweepstakes unless the player was willing to offer a major hometown discount.
Although some within the Orioles' organization privately say they are not confident they'll land Teixeira, the most sought-after hitter in this year's market, MacPhail wouldn't characterize his club's chances or wave a white flag.
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Here's a quick synopsis
The Gnats made a big offer early that no one is paying attention to.
The O’s made an offer that’s thought to be 7 years / $140 M. No one in the media is taking it seriously. But MacPhail has said that’s not necessarily our LAST offer.
The Angels are though to offer 8 years at around $21-22M per.
The Red Sox are thought to make no more than a 7 year offer at 23 per. They seem to be balking at adding any more years.
Scott Boras’ trial balloon this summer was 10 years, $200 million. I still think it’s gonna take close to $200 to get this done.
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by duck on Dec 19, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My synopsis is the Angels
have the "best" offer on the table and I think Tex wants to be on East Coast. The Nats are out there with a contract but consider Tex in the Nats lineup. He might not even knock in a 100 and even with an out clause his next three years would be hell. He already had a taste of "empty stats" in Texas and lets face it, he is going to be filthy rich whereever he signs.
So Boras is either saying beat the Nats or beat the Angels. I think Ken R. has a blurb saying through Torii Hunter that the Angels "overwhelmed" Tex. Overwhelmed means 200m in my ear.
John Henry just called the pot…. and Scott and Tex are huddled and Scott just passed the cell over to Mark and said we got John Henry as far as we could…..you call him and make nice.
I actually want the Red Sox to get Tex and throw a big fixed cost contract into their payroll. Lets face it in two years the Yanks and Boston overspending may hurt them on the field. If our young pitching comes on I dont care if they have Tex. There I said it…..
by sanders833 on Dec 19, 2008 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how legit?
How legit are those offers, really? I can’t imagine any GM really going out there and saying what the offer is, though I would think Boras would do that, adding a few million here and there. I say that because 8 years at 22 million = 176, which is prolly a better deal than 10 years at 200 million. It seems like smart teams have a break even point as no player has an unquantifiable worth. I do fear that the Orioles aren’t as smart as the Red Sox, and no matter what happens the Red Sox will come out ahead.
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Dec 19, 2008 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want this over. I never believed Teixeira would come to Baltimore. I have a nagging voice that says this $180 million or so would be better spent on minor leagues, drafts, and player development.
by drj on Dec 19, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“If they came back to us and told us what it would take and we thought that it made sense for us, then, yes” the original offer could be altered, MacPhail said.
Well, duh, nobody actually believed your first offer was your final offer especially when it comes to bidding on Boras clients.
Although some within the Orioles’ organization privately say they are not confident they’ll land Teixeira,
Much like Obama’s jazz about not pleasing everyone during his victory speech, Andy is playing the classic game of managing expectations.
by birdman on Dec 19, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes you are correct
I mean imagine if Tex said after he signed with Boston that the “Orioles never made a serious offer” for us to consider. How would that play out all offseason, then imagine if Brian comes out and says he wont sign an extension (he wont, Andy will just trade him unless that stalls so long its obvious he wont sign)? Then maybe Nick goes year to year…..could be an ugly winter.
by sanders833 on Dec 19, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That has been labeled...
DEPRESSING
by Dr Orpheus on Dec 19, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel jerked around
kind of like this girl I dated 5 years ago who broke up and got back together with me 3 times in the span of 6 months.
But I guess I am the dummy for taking her back.
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Dec 19, 2008 2:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's okay, we were all young once
Hopefully you’ve gained a little self respect for yourself since then.
by PhilR8 on Dec 19, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone
ever eaten chocolate covered sunflower seeds before? Someone at work brought these little candy filled Chrstmas tree things and that’s what’s in them. I like seeds and I like chocolate but I can’t make up my mind about these things.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2008 4:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
although I still prefer the in-shell seeds overall
I eat the chocolate covered seeds and the shelled seeds way too fast – I could go through a bag in about ten minutes. A bag of in-shell seeds usually lasts me a couple days, though.
by PhilR8 on Dec 19, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE
in shell seeds but I’m afraid of the out of shell seeds. I think I would inhale them. Plus I would probably start having salt withdraws.
Since nothing else is happening…I’m awaiting the arrival of the newest O’s fan in just about a week! Her name will be Sydney and I cringed when my wife first brought it up. Hopefully she will grow into as big of an O’s fan as my wife is a B-Rob fan.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2008 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations!!
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Dec 19, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just introduced to them myself. My wife bought a plastic candy cane filled with them, and I can’t stop eating them.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Dec 19, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I love about this place?
At other certain websites people are SO uptight and worried about a certain Free Agent that it gets me all worked up as well. Then I come over here and it’s all, “Has anyone eating chocolate covered sunflower seeds?” Awesome. And it’s not because you don’t care about what’s going on with the O’s, you just recognize that there isn’t really anything to say about it right at this moment. I dig that about this website.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Dec 19, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was kinda wondering where that was going
and finally picked up on the “let’s talk about ANYTHING else” vibe.
Me? Never had the things. BUt I’m all about some chochlate-chip cookie dough this time of year.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
current holiday weaknesses, in no particular order
• egg nog—the real kind, made from scratch, just eggs, sugar, cream, bourbon, rum, brandy
• on a nice cold day, blueberry cornmeal pancakes with some applewood bacon and syrup everywhere
• toasted everything bagel with lox, schmear, red onions and capers
• a not-too-dry tanqueray ten martini, up with a twist
• cumin-spiced bourbon pecans
• any version of a chocolate-chip cookie, as long as the chips are dark; oatmeal, double chocolate, whatever
• roasted garlic and rosemary leg of lamb on the holiday, but not this year because i’m not seeing my family, alas
• and, in deference to my wife, a good hot latke with a dollop of real sour cream
What’s on your holiday menu?
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i cannot stop eating...
the Christmas m&m’s and york peppermint patties
by semaj2989 on Dec 19, 2008 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MIne's a bit more Southern
Slick dumplins (not drop, and NO, there’s no "g"), with lima beans and a bit of bacon and lots of black pepper.
Lots of mashed potatoes (real, of course) with way too much butter
Iced tea. Not the Lipton instant in a jar mess, the Lipton tea bag brewed stuff, loaded down with ice. Make it right, and you barely need sugar.
Sweet potato pie, with real vanilla ice cream on it.
And turkey. Lots and lots of turkey.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in all seriousness....
…you need to tell me how to brew good iced tea. omit nothing. what tea do you buy, proportions, steeping time, etc.
i’ve been trying to get iced tea down for about a year now and i suck at it. that sounds ridiculous, but it’s true.
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get yourself an iced tea maker
Seriously. Here’s a decent one.
Use a generous amount of tea bags – I usually go with at least 4 of the big ones. Don’t skimp on the ice – the tea will melt and unbelieveable amount of it.
I can’t find the iced tea maker I have – it’s “The Iced Tea Pot” by Mr. Coffee.
Now my mom, she’s make it in a pot on the stovetop when I was a kid – she’d take tea bags, steep them on the stovetop, believe it or not, then add it to the pitcher of ice and let the ice melt. I’ll ask her how much water and how many tea bags she used, and how long she let it steep. But we always called it boiling. Steep is a fancy word, and we didn’t use many of them there fancy words.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the
actual southern part of the US…or south central…we make a lot of sun tea in the summer. Of course when it’s 110 outside it’s easier to do.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2008 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey now...
I’m south of the Mason-Dixon.
And sure, during the SUMMER, we can do sun tea when it’s 97 degrees outside. Doesn’t work well in December, does it, city boy?
/just playin’
//I gotta stop reading this Tex stuff.
///And I really needed winter break to start today, thank God it did.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you were really in the south
You’d be wearing shorts today, like I am.
Of course, I can’t make sun tea due to the fog.
The Yankees get Sabathia, the Mets get K-rod, and the Orioles get Ryan Freel.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 20, 2008 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was snowing in New Orleans this week
and I don’t think they were wearing shorts. I’m south of teh Mason-Dixon, that’s all that counts.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 20, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes to the iced tea maker!
My mom also makes it on the stove top with the steeping and all that, but I could never do it/didn’t want to take the time. I bought an iced tea maker and it’s probably the most used thing in my kitchen. It’s perfect! It has options on if you want it weaker or stronger (I like stronger). I use 7 normal sized tea bags. Normally just regular black tea although sometimes I’ll put in two or three mint or lemon or peach. If you make all 7 bags flavored it’s gross. Sometimes I use 7 green tea bags. I never, ever use sugar although sometimes when my roommate makes it she puts a bit of sugar in the bottom of the pitcher before starting the iced tea maker up and that’s pretty good. But I prefer my iced tea strong and without sugar.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Dec 20, 2008 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
word.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 20, 2008 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Tea
You can make a pretty good batch of tea in the coffee maker. Just run enough water through three or four family size tea bags to fill up an empty gallon jug. The only problem with this method is that it takes a while for the tea to cool off, but it’s easy and effective.
by brooksflow on Dec 19, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like to add green tea bags to my regular lipton black/orange pekoe tea
when I make iced tea.
I usually just make it with a kettle. Boil the kettle, steep the bags (I usually use the called-for amount of the Lipton iced tea blend plus a couple green tea bags) for a good 20 minutes, and then refrigerate overnight (rather than using ice, which dilutes the tea – you can also use less hot water and make the tea stronger before adding ice to cool/dilute it if you’re in a hurry).
No sugar.
by pipkin on Dec 20, 2008 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
holy shit, dude.
I have a feeling that if I ever lived within 100 miles of you, I’d gain 100 lbs.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holiday Menu
Baked Ham, fried turkey, mased potatoes, green beans, mac & cheese (the real shit), and butterscotch ice box pie for desert, pecan pie, and banana pudding…it’s lethal. My mom usually cooks a brisket for grazing and sandwiches over the holidays as well.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2008 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mac & Cheese
with the bread crumbs toasted on top, right? Baked in the oven to finish it off? Am I right?
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
jesus
i already ate dinner tonight. stop making me hungry.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got ya at the bread crumbs on the mac & cheese, didn't I?
No one can resist the bread crumb mac & cheese…
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot stop shoveling Lindor Truffles into my mouth at an amazing rate.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Dec 20, 2008 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, just for laughs
can someone report on what’s happening at OH? I mean apart from Tony’s poignant letter of advice to Tex?
They’ve closed their forums to lurkers (maybe it was crashing too much?), and I have never been able to get a membership there. Hmmm…..
I’m curious what the “my source in the warehouse” rumor du jour is.
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why haven't you been able to join?
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by duck on Dec 19, 2008 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just checked out
their “reminder” to posters on their rules. I think the Stalinist Soviet Union had more liberal policies concerning free speech…
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For whatever reason
I am not allowed to join OH.
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Dec 19, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
y'all can borrow my password
if the curiosity is really killing you.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, thanks
I am just upset that I was marked by OH
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Dec 19, 2008 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
they’re big on homeland security over there.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
could they take themselves any MORE seriously?
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also have not been able to join, even with my towson.edu address
I figured a nice hometown college address would do the trick, right? Although I was banned there a few years ago, so who knows how they cross reference email addresses.
by PhilR8 on Dec 20, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how the hell did you all get banned?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 20, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea
that Camden Chat also served as an OH Refugee Camp.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Dec 20, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't call myself a refugee
as this is the only O’s blog I’ve ever posted on, but I have pointed out on more than one occasion that some of the OH-ers take themselves way too seriously.
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Dec 20, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to wonder
how the hell I ever got in over there.
Maybe the fact I never post has something to do with it…
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 20, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might have posted a really inappropriate fictional story about Cal Ripken, Jr
and I might have done it with the specific purpose of getting banned. But that was so long ago…
by PhilR8 on Dec 20, 2008 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaaaa
I remember now.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 20, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you all will be happy to hear, btw
that ALL of a sudden, my sox fan friends are just dying to hear my Teixeira thesis. now that there’s a chance they won’t get him, they are giving a shit.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 7:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ha.
because they actually know nothing about our up-and-comers, do they?
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well,
these aren’t the well-educated and civil sox fans i’m talking about. so, in other words, not kristen.
these ones are a bit more myopic.
kristen actually wants the o’s to get him. thinks it’s just the way the story should go.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i gotta say that kristen is shiznit.
she’s the one reason I can’t hate all red sox fans.
and of course, there’s her markakis-enabling rack….
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And she's even nicer in person
for the few minutes there was a mini-CC meetup this summer when 2632 (and Kristen) and I (and my wife) actually got to exchange pleasantries.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, yes. ramon's glorious pirates walkoff.
felt the orioles magic there, son.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ramon was good for something
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Dec 19, 2008 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
she’s actually lost probably 50 lbs since you last saw her. so the rack is less prominent. the ass, however is a goddamn work of art. her nice little jewish boyfriend is a lucky boy.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take your word for it
Being happily married and all. :)
Tell her I said Happy Hanukkah (belated) or Christmas, whichever applies. I hate Happy Holidays – it’s such a cop-out. Know people well enough to know which one to wish, OK? Sorry I don’t know Kristen well enough to know which applies, but I know Happy New Year will work.
And yes, I’ve been drinking. :) I now have 16 days off!
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
the guy who created it was born 15 miles from where I live, in Parsonsburg, MD, next to a chicken house.
No lie. Google it up.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, I'm drinking, too
because I’m unemployed!
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about that
I’ll ask what your prospects are later. Enjoy the booze now.
Can you buy people gifts of alcohol on Amazon?
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
these aren’t the well-educated and civil sox fans i’m talking about.
There is more than one?
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Dec 19, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Sheehan
I don’t want to copy the whole thing here, but he thinks it would be a seriously good move for the O’s to get Tex. Talks about how no one really realizes how close the Orioles are to being worthwhile. Says Markakis is a star, Jones is Vernon Wells with less power and more glove, and Wieters will be the best catcher in the AL by 2010.
He points out that the only way to compete in the ALEast is to build to 95 wins, and the way to get there, is with superstar talent.
by ItsBenFeldman on Dec 19, 2008 8:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that was a very pleasing article.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew I got that BP sub for a reason...
and it wasn’t just Nate Silver, who went AWOL about a week after I bought the sub. Not that I didn’t read fivethirtyeight.com on an hourly basis for three months, but still…
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate Silver is my hero.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's the hero
of every reality-based optimist in this country who actually cares about elections and decent polling. I learned A LOT from him this cycle. Behold, the power of spreadsheets…
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he is the conquering logic-hero
of two out of my 5 favorite things in life: baseball and politics.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I'll bite
Cello’s in the top 5, right?
So what are the other 2?
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
baseball, music, politics, food, booze.
life ain’t shit without those 5 things.
2 of the 5 I have made careers out of. When I burn out on politics, I’ll go to culinary school ;-)
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I may have found a new sig line
baseball, music, politics, food, booze.
life ain’t shit without those 5 things.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
I love that everyone is hangin in here on a Friday night.
Like the good old days of like…April.
I have a good excuse: there’s a huge fucking snowstorm outside.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i have a good excuse.
there’s a double martini waiting for me at my 7:30 dinner date. i gots nothin’ to do between now and then except type “teixeira” into google and think about the first sip a-comin’
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bottoms up, my man
And do catch a Dodgers game for me next year, will ya?
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any way I can catch one when Torre isn't managing?
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That might be tough...
but sit behind the dugout, and you probably won’t see him.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'll go to an LAAOCCUSA game....
…I hear they’re about to sign this superstar of a 1B
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just stop.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whatever you do
don’t go to Dodger stadium wearing the colors or hat of the opposing team. I have some stories for you.
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Dec 19, 2008 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a great excuse
I don’t teach for 16 days.
I’ve gotten two transfer students that have just about ruined my year – one attacked two teachers at her last school (we;re waiting on charges being filed before we can expel her, meanwhile, mom opposed assignment to our alternative school, so the BoE sent her to us), the other’s a convicted sex offender at age 15. And I don’t have to deal with them again for over two weeks.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, 2009 is an off-year for elections, right?
So maybe you’ll be able to be around a tad bit more often. Excused absenses to be sure, but we did miss you.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it might be an off year for ME.
Unless I end up on a state leg race in Virginia or a city council or mayoral race in Boston. Our House speaker could also get indicted. Which could be a fun special election.
None of those are super likely, though. I’ll probably be on a slightly more normal schedule for a year, if I get any work at all.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a teeny weeny update.....
…so minor as to hardly merit a mention.
But in an email to the AP, Boras says that Teixeira himself is the reason for the delay:
“The Boston ownership was kind enough to request and travel to meet with Mark Teixeira,” Boras said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. “While it was a very positive meeting, Mark was candid and advised he is in the process of making a decision and is now attempting to eliminate teams.”
So maybe, just maybe Teixeira is really weighing the “where he wants to play” thing?
Or maybe he’s simply weighing the “I want a ton of money” thing.
Or maybe, just maybe, Boras is a lying sack of shit.
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm divided about the whole thing part of me wants him to sign with the Orioles
but that amount of money I’m just not sure he’s worth it in the long run.
by floridaoriole on Dec 19, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Worth may not be the opperative term.
I prefer to think of value – to get what he would produce, it the value equal to the contract? He will produce more offense for us than any other single player we could conceivably sign for the next few years. And his value will grow when he has Wieters in the lineup to help him, and as Adam Jones’ offensive numbers mature.
What else are we going to get for that $23M a year? A Danys Baez, Jamie Walker and Melvin Mora trio again?
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a huge risk.
But I think one we should take.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not THAT huge a risk
for the next 5 years at least, we’ll be psyched about having him, no matter how we play.
and by 2013, even if he’s declining, $20M a year will look like chump change. and we’ll all be old and not care about the payroll by then anyway.
we want matlock!
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm old now
I want to see another WS winner before I die – I’m already 40!
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, true...
I’ll be OVER 30 by then! But these are all problems for future Orioles fans and future Marianne. Suckers!!
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It really isn't...
…that big a risk. $23-$25 Mil/year on a long ass contract is what you pay for a consistent, high OBP slugger post Manny Ramirez/Alex Rodriguez. If anyone around here thinks we’re going to get to the promised land without bringing in at least one if not several top flight free agents, I beg you to return to reality. Those type of players cost serious money. The good news is once you sign one, it’s easier to sign more assuming the team gets better. The other good news is that we have a lot of cheap, good players either already on or on the verge of being on our team. The time is now, the place is now, people.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 19, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man I'm really feeling old I'm 46 lol
by floridaoriole on Dec 19, 2008 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hot damn!
I’m not the oldest one here!
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we're closer than you think
and duck, you’re not even as old as I am. you knew that.
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
But I like the old codger persona at times.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a role you play well.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take that as a compliment
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another teeny weeny update
from those jokers, Olney and Gammons, who probably are just making more shit up:
But after they arrived, [Red Sox executives] were informed that their offer to Teixeira — something in the range of $165 million to $170 million — was short by upwards of $25 million.
… One executive familiar with the meeting said the Red Sox were told that in order to finish a deal for Teixeira, they would have to offer about $24.3 million a year over eight years — or a deal for about $195 million.
This is the first i’ve seen the $195M figure. That’s actually higher than the 10/$200M Boras originally was targeting.
Ain’t no way we’re gonna match that. But I’m guessing no one else is offering that either.
by zknower on Dec 19, 2008 9:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Help me out here...
I’m two fairly good sized screwdrivers into the evening, but how is “the $195M figure” “actually higher than the 10/$200M Boras originally was targeting.”?
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
higher amount per year.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 19, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got it.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 19, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WoooHooo!
you guys think being an O’s fan is tough you should try being a casual OKC Thunder (dumb name) fan. They just won their 3rd game of the year. For you non-NBA fans there have been more than three games played. 3-24…I can see it turning around! (not really)
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought my Sixers had it bad
but I feel awful for you guys
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Dec 19, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WIZARDS 4-20!
I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game. If the Caps go into the crapper I guess I’ll have to accept the fact that I’m a curse on all sports teams.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Dec 20, 2008 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always wondered
if B-more had enough of a fan base to support a basketball team. I sort of doubt it, considering that the Wiz already exist and the NBA is in a general decline. I know there were teams here before, but my general feeling is that given the current status of the country, it just wouldn’t fly. I say bring back the Baltimore Stallions!! CFL 4 Life!!
WHAT ain't no country I ever heard of. Do they speak english in WHAT?
by sickuvitall on Dec 20, 2008 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Wizards used to play in Baltimore....
not that long ago.
The baltimore bullets.
And then the washington bullets. no lie.
by zknower on Dec 20, 2008 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That had completely slipped my mind.
I remember the old Washington Bullets. The logo with the two hands shooting the ball. Didn’t they change the name due to the violent and ‘gang-affiliated’ nature of the Bullets name? What a bunch of up-tight pricks. Bring back the B-more Bullets!!
WHAT ain't no country I ever heard of. Do they speak english in WHAT?
by sickuvitall on Dec 20, 2008 3:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Abe Polin, the owner of the team...
was friends with the Israeli prime minister who was assassinated in the 90s (name escapes me, too lazy to Google). Anyway, within a few years of that, he changed the name. So it was kind of personal to him.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 20, 2008 8:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see. But couldn't
they come up with something better than the Wiz? I mean, its not the worst name ever. These days they would have a rediculous fanvote to choose the name, so Washington is probably better off with ‘Wizards’ than what it could have potentially been.
WHAT ain't no country I ever heard of. Do they speak english in WHAT?
by sickuvitall on Dec 20, 2008 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was very young
but I seem to remember there was a fanvote
by Steve. on Dec 20, 2008 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there absolutely was
i thing “diplomats” was an option.
although that might have been just for the Gnats.
by zknower on Dec 20, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that long ago?
It was before I was born. That’s pretty long ago.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Dec 20, 2008 8:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're not that old.
Duck Around - a progressive blog about the Eastern Shore of Maryland. And getting off my lawn.
by duck on Dec 20, 2008 8:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting to a point
where things that were before I’m born can be considered “a long time ago” in my opinion. It’s not like I’m 20 anymore.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
by Stacey on Dec 20, 2008 8:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have
a CHL team here in OKC, the OKC Blazers and they are a lot of fun. One year while in college about 10 of us would frequent games behind and sit near the goalie whose name was Foucher…after multiple adult beverages his name changed and most adults steered clear of us. I hate those people at games now but looking back it was a lot of fun.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Dec 20, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
still better than being in seattle
with them not having a team and all ;)
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Dec 20, 2008 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's worse than rooting for the aint's
we’ve had our share of 3 win seasons.
BTW, I’m glad you got a baskeball team that wasn’t from New Orleans.
The Yankees get Sabathia, the Mets get K-rod, and the Orioles get Ryan Freel.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 20, 2008 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about
a city that fell in love with a team…the Hornets were awesome. They did a ton in the community and Chris Paul was a God-send to that team. I remember running in a 5K downtown one morning and the entire team had a water station/cheering section. Those guys were awesome. I’m glad that NO was able to keep them but I would have loved to keep them.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Dec 20, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That has got to be odd
to have a temporary franchise in your city in that fashion. I mean, imagine if Baltimore had a temporary winning baseball team…the city would not know how to handle itself afterwards!!
WHAT ain't no country I ever heard of. Do they speak english in WHAT?
by sickuvitall on Dec 21, 2008 6:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe nobody expressed love for First Blood
ARE WE NOT MEN?
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by SC on Dec 21, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I watched that clip all the way through
Great movie.
by PhilR8 on Dec 21, 2008 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Technically speaking, no.
I am not a man.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
by 2632 on Dec 21, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AWESOME clip
I almost felt like posting it facebook with the same, “NOTHING IS OVER” but i didn’t want to steal it.
by birdman on Dec 22, 2008 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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