Greg Maddux to retire on Monday
I just saw it on the ESPNews crawl.
I had, like, five of those cards. Maddux retires with a career record of 355-227, ERA of 3.16 largely playing in a big hitters' era, and probably the best of his generation now that Clemens is so horribly tainted. He's a Hall of Famer.
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1st ballot....
..and really, should be unanimous.
Except some prick sportswriter will spew some bullshit about how “nobody should be unanimous” because it “taints the game”.
Even I'll go with this one
First ballot HoF.
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He is my absolute favorite pitcher
of the last 20 years…really, who else is there?
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
Glavine, Smoltz, and Mussina.
That’s pretty much it.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
Pedro and Randy?
BoSox (and some Phillies) people will say Curt.
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pedro and randy
are better than smoltz and glavine, if you ask me.
and if you ask me for more of my opinions, schilling is a borderline hall-of-famer who probably ends up making it.
Schilling only makes it
because of the Red Sox/major media attention
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
David Cone's up this year
Interesting to see if he gets in the 1st year. 194-126, 3.46 regular season. 12-3, 3.80 post season.
I’ll take that over the Drama Queen of Phi-Ari-Bos.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
not at all
dude has less than 200 career wins and no koufax-like legacy of absolute dominance at his peak.
That alone disqualifies him in the minds of most voters, I’d bet, and even looking at it in a little more sophisticated a manner, I just don’t see it. His top BR comps are guys like Kevin Brown and Orel Herscheiser. He does have Dazzy Vance on there, but Vance is kind a marginal HoFer anyway. His #1 comp is Doc Gooden.
OK, I see your point
Borderline? Possibly. Not in his 1st year? Absolutely. And I guess you could put him in the “if you have to think about it too long then the answer is no” category.
But if you say no to Cone then you have to say no to a bunch of guys who are already in.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
I loved Bill James' David Cone write-up in the Abstract
Pitching here
Pitching there
David Cone
Staff ace on loan
Honestly I wouldn’t put him in either. He falls just short for me. And I would say no to a bunch of guys already in, so that’s no problem for me. I don’t have a vote.
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by Scott Christ on Dec 10, 2008 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Used to love Maddux
Less love, but still a ton of respect. When I was younger I sent him a bunch of cards to autograph, don’t know if he himself actually autographed them, but yeah, its nice having cards signed by maddux :)
Well
I am getting old. Every time one of these old guys retires I feel my childhood slipping further away. I was actually randomly looking at his stats the other day and it just reminded me that the dude is unreal.
Wonder what are the odds that Glavine and Smoltz also decide to retire.
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Be great if they do
but I don’t see Smoltz giving in yet. Glavine maybe. Be great to see Maddux and Glavine go in together.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 5, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Maddux had his major league debut when I was 4 months old
And he’s now retiring. I am the same age as the career of one of the five best pitchers of an era (loosely speaking, in no order, I’d say the best five are Maddux, Clemens, Johnson, Martinez, and, i dunno, Glavine I guess – I’m probably missing something).
I dunno exactly how this makes me feel, but it makes me feel something.
this will make Moose an after thought his first year
I think the only blemish you can really hang on Maddux was his playoff stats. Still, you dont get all the playoff stats unless your getting your team in the playoffs.
But I bet if you poll all the voters who leave him off the ballot that would be their number two reason followed by the same logic that leaves Willie Mays or Hank Aaron off a ballot as reason one.
Maddux
The guy is a class act. Always humble, never in the media, never in steroid talks. 1st ballot hall of famer and one of the best pitchers to ever live. I remember growing up wishing I could pitch like Greg Maddux. He never overpowered a hitter with his fast ball but instead played a game of chess from the mound to the plate. It’s hard seeing Childhood heroes retire. Obviously biased but I always thought he was better than Clemens anyway (Braves fan). I’m posting here because I saw he would be retiring on Monday and knew my good friend and former roomate SC had a tremendous amount of respect for Maddux and would put something up about it. Since they didn’t do it at Talking Chop.
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When we're sober
Important caveat.
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See my point?
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are we ever sober?
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
Yeaaaaaah
I’m not so sure that “sober” is in my vocabulary.
Looks like someone knows...
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/12/07/funny-pictures-saiz-iz-5-o-clock-somewherez/
he’s looking at a 12th straight rebuilding season.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
McGwire
I had five of the McGwire rookies from the same set. Wish I had sold them off before the ‘roid news hit. Those things went down like stock in Enron. Had the ’85 Topps card, too. They were all worth a TON. Now they’re like German currency after WWII.
On the HOF tip, who thinks he’ll actually get in? I think the voters will keep giving him just enough votes to stay on the ballot until his last year. I’m on the fence whether they’ll finally give him the votes. I think his odds are better than Bonds’ will be.
Mark McGwire and Greg Maddux mentioned in the same thread?
A good an excuse as any to post this video again:
best video ever
oh i forgot about that commercial
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