Thanks and farewell, Erik
Some will say that saying anything is saying something too quick. But Erik Bedard is all but gone -- the physicals need to be passed, and that's it.
So I think we should wish Erik Bedard a nice goodbye. One time I lost faith in Erik Bedard. I even creatively titled that post, "I've lost faith in Erik Bedard."
He was pretty awesome from that point on. I like to think it was entirely because of that.
Obviously the 2008 team isn't going to be quite as good without Bedard as it would have been with him anchoring the rotation. The guy pitched like a beast in 2007, throwing under 200 innings and nearly leading the league in strikeouts anyway. Bedard with Safeco Field behind him? Look out, Cy Young Award.
Truthfully, I've always sort of hated the Mariners. But Bedard is someone I'll root for. Just not against us.
And let's welcome the new Orioles, reported to be Adam Jones, Chris Tillman, George Sherrill, Kam Mickolio and Tony Butler. Adam Jones and Nick Markakis in the outfield in '08? Count me in. That could seriously be a dynamic 3-4 punch in the lineup for a decade or more.
The Mariners are getting a stud lefty for their package of young talent (and George Sherrill). All that remains to be seen about the 2008 Opening Day Orioles is whether or not Andy MacPhail will pull one more deal out of his hat and send Brian Roberts to the Chicago Cubs.
I'm honestly looking forward to watching the O's this year. They might lose 100 games. It's a very real possibility. But I get the feeling it'll be a lot more enjoyable to watch a team that is at least trying to point themselves in a direction lose 100 games than it is watching a rudderless mess of a team lose 90. There will be days when Markakis and Jones and all the rest really look like a team that could be going somewhere. And that'll be exciting.
Jeremy Guthrie: Staff Ace. Go figure. To be fair, that was a role that many envisioned for Guthrie when he was drafted. But he's only getting there now after years of stagnation and failure.
What else do you really say? We sent off our two best players so far this offseason. We're leaving this franchise in the hands of Andy MacPhail and, eventually, a boat of young talent. There is no longer any shortage of legit pitching prospects in Baltimore. Olson, Liz, Patton, Albers, Tillman, Penn, Loewen is still really a prospect more than anything, Erbe, etc. It's a nice group. I'm not saying all of them will pan out. Maybe NONE of them do. But I think it's likely that we can shape a rotation out of that group.
Matt Wieters could be on this team by the end of the season. Markakis, Jones and Wieters? That's legit. That's bona fide.
It's almost bizarre to think of the Orioles as a team with young talent that has a base and can actually be going somewhere. But that's the way I'm seeing it. And that beats the garbage we've endured for 10 years.
So far, so good for the MacPhail era Orioles.
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Bedard will always struggle
by jobe on Feb 4, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Come watch these kids play!
Definitely looking forward to our team compete in the AL East this year... hopefully it turns out to be a Disney-type story ... not the texas chainsaw massacre.
again, anyone have the scoop on the other rookies coming along with this deal?
by dfleis on Feb 4, 2008 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Come watch these kids play!

Gone but not forgotten...
by SC on Feb 4, 2008 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...
by jq higgins on Feb 4, 2008 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RE:
by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 4, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In 2008...
The team will stink. The players will show promise. And I'll take it.
by KenDixonFanClub on Feb 4, 2008 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RE:
by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 4, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No matter how these players turn out
Tom Murphy: MVP of the illustrious '99 team.
by Baltimo on Feb 4, 2008 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like the youngsters
Melvin Mora
Kevin Millar
Aubrey Huff
Jay Payton
Jay Gibbons
Ramon Hernandez
Razor I can deal with if he rebounds from last year. It's never bad to have a solid veteran catcher to go with a young staff. And even Kevin Millar I could deal with if the rest on that list were gone. But having Huff, Payton, Mora and Gibbons on the team, getting at bats and making the money they're making kind of hampers my enthusiasm for the future.
by CStoneNo37 on Feb 4, 2008 4:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Take heart
by Stacey on Feb 4, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not 100% positive...
I'm also fairly certain that there will at least be attempts to move one of Huff/Millar & would be surprised if Payton wasn't a topic of discussion.
Ramon's certain to be here & Mora's only likely landing spot in Philly isn't open anymore, so...

Our fans are better than yours.
by OEutaw on Feb 4, 2008 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But
by CStoneNo37 on Feb 5, 2008 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
gibby is a sunk cost...
i would bet that if payton, huff and millar are dealt by spring training, they'll be gone before season's end.
by jq higgins on Feb 5, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have heard

Our fans are better than yours.
by OEutaw on Feb 5, 2008 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that'd be super...
by jq higgins on Feb 5, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Farewell, Erik. I'll miss you.
The last time I saw Erik pitch in person was in June 2007, and my cousin was in town. Sean grew up an army brat and never lived anywhere long enough to have a hometown team, so he adopted the Orioles. I took him to Oriole Park as I usually do when he visits. Orioles vs. Yankees. Bedard vs. Clemens. We took our seats under the overhang in left field, surrounded by Yankee fans. Sean was thrilled to see Bedard pitch in person for the first time, and Erik didn't let him down. He struck out Damon, Jeter, and Matsui to start the game, freezing Matsui to end the inning. For good measure, he started off the top of the 2nd by making Alex Rodriguez look foolish at the plate. 4 batters faced, 4 strikeouts (three looking). The Yankee fans in the seats near me were complaining about Erik's called strikes, saying they were dropping out of the strike zone. It seemed they, like the Yankee batters, just couldn't handle Erik's filthy curve.
That night Erik pitched 7 innings with 8 Ks, 1 BB, and 2 H. The Yankees never got a runner past first base against him, and the Orioles beat the Yankees 4-0. It was an amazing performance, but one that had become almost routine for him. Before the game started, we laughed at the physical contrast of Erik and Roger Clemens, but when it was all said and done the little Canadian with the rosy cheeks had outpitched that tub of lard and 'roids (tm 2632), Roger Clemens, denying the Rocket his 350th win.
I'm thankful that I'll always have that memory of Erik, and I wish him the best of luck in Seattle.
by Stacey on Feb 4, 2008 4:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I remember this game
by pipkin on Feb 4, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at this game!
It was actually the first game i went to of the 2007 season :)
The last game I saw Bedard pitching in person was on August 21 when we played the Rangers and Bedard had 11 strikeouts tying the single season strikeout record with 218. That was one of the best games i went to! I will never forget these games, and the dominance of Erik!
I will definitely miss you Bedard!
by DaughtryDoll23 on Feb 4, 2008 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the memories, Erik!
by Bluehen on Feb 4, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am really happy with this offseason.
by jobe on Feb 4, 2008 5:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
by jq higgins on Feb 4, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re
I haven't heard the Sizemore comparison. I have read that he compares favorable to Torii Hunter and Mike Cameron but that he has shown more raw power earlier in his career than either of those guys. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Sizemore fan (not Tom) so if he is said to have a higher ceiling than Grady I'm stoked.
by BPinOK on Feb 4, 2008 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and that was BEFORE last year
by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Feb 4, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahaha
On the other side of this is Daniel Cabrera, who is a guy with whom I should probably let expectations wane, but I can't help it. He throws 100. He's still very inexperienced. And I don't think anyone will ever accuse Cabrera of being indifferent to his performance.
My, how time flies.

Batting fourth....playing center field....
by zknower on Feb 4, 2008 8:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
guthrie staff ace?
by kevgracie on Feb 4, 2008 9:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
re:
"This is Birdland"
by drj on Feb 4, 2008 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My money says
sooo many pitches. It was like watching a lefty dcabs.
by pipkin on Feb 5, 2008 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair..
Hopefully Loewen figures it out.
by dfleis on Feb 5, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
olson, as well...
i'd say he has to be the early favorite for the 4th/5th spot in the rotation.
a lot of people compare liz and cabrera, but one thing is that liz has a better k rate than cabrera had in the minors, better walk rate, has a full additional season of experience in the minors and has done so at the higher level. cabrera, including rehab assignments, has only made ELEVEN starts above a ball...not even HIGH a!
by jq higgins on Feb 5, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heart
by kevgracie on Feb 4, 2008 9:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Two things
- I'm really glad that MacPhail appears to be able to bludgeon his way through Angelos's crapola to get trades done. Orioles fans deserve a chance to see a team with real, live promise for the future. And I'm very high on Jones...the rest of the package makes this deal simply a great one for the O's.
- Man, am I glad the Sox don't have to face Easy E four times a year. He'll still be one of my favorite pitchers to watch.
by NHZ on Feb 4, 2008 11:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
bludgeoning his way
I think it's amazing that MacPhail has been able to pull off these trades. Somehow he got Angelos to ultimately get the hell out of the way and let him attempt to make some progress for the future. As I stated before, I suspect he's needed an infinite reserve of patience. Maybe this will all fall apart if Angelos gets antsy because a trade doesn't pan out. But right now, MacPhail deserves some credit for what's happened to date (instead of a swipe from a Sun columnist about taking his time).
"This is Birdland"
by drj on Feb 5, 2008 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Best Buh-Dard memory
Second best Buh-Dard memory: getting to write BUH-DARD all the time.
Third best Buh-Dard memory: reading Javy's Best Buh-Dard memory. Cool!
I'm glad I like the Mariners, who've always been my favoritest coast team after The Freakin' A's. I wish both M. Erique and his new team well, and hope against hope that someday we will meet in the playoffs. I mean Buh-Dard might have another 10 years in him, right?
by Titov on Feb 5, 2008 6:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll add another...
Still, I have to say that I got more satisfaction out of that Clemens game and all the other times he swamped the Yanks.
by silverstadium on Feb 5, 2008 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sort of related to all this...
by jq higgins on Feb 5, 2008 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Roberts gone too?
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2008/02/05/roberts-headed-to-cubs-soon/
by ET90210 on Feb 5, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
nice post
At least the O's were watchable every 5th day the last few years. Now I'll be rooting for the M's every 5th day.
by Dingbat Charlie on Feb 5, 2008 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Geez...
by RobG on Feb 5, 2008 4:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
THOSE WERE THE DAYS
He pitched for us for four years. And when he was healthy, he was at least competitive.
I'll miss him.

Gone but not forgotten...
by SC on Feb 5, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also
He was the team's most dominant SP in over 25 years! Moose was great but never came close to Bedard's 2007.
by Dingbat Charlie on Feb 5, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RE:
Bedard 2007: 182 IP; 146 ERA+
Moose 1992: 241 IP; 157 ERA+
Moose 1994: 176 IP; 163 ERA+
And a couple of years that were just about as good:
Moose 1995: 222 IP; 145 ERA+
Moose 1997: 225 IP; 137 ERA+
Not to mention that the traitor didn't really have the same sort of injury problems that Erik has had and was more effective early on.
by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 5, 2008 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah

Gone but not forgotten...
by SC on Feb 5, 2008 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
by Dingbat Charlie on Feb 6, 2008 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember Brooks
by Stacey on Feb 5, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by the time i started following the o's...
by jq higgins on Feb 6, 2008 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck/Brooks: Good! John/Joe: Great!
by Titov on Feb 6, 2008 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I should get the best of both worlds
I'll be able to watch Bedard regularly with the M's and hopefully watch Jones become a star with the O's (and maybe get a 1st rate big league pitcher out of the deal as well).
by timg56 on Feb 5, 2008 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is one long goodbye
"This is Birdland"
by drj on Feb 6, 2008 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else having Bedard deal fatigue?
by silverstadium on Feb 6, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm so Buh-Dard fatigued
by Titov on Feb 6, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RE:
by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 6, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...

Our fans are better than yours.
by OEutaw on Feb 6, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More on the other 4
http://orioles.scout.com/2/726335.html
by CamdenCrazy21 on Feb 6, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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