is Burres the firth starter???

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Mar 18, 2008 2:33 PM EDT Comment 12 comments

really? that's the best they can do? i understand the "good soldier" thing from last year. but seriously? he's the best the Orioles can run out there every fifth day??
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from Roch:

And more news
Garrett Olson has been optioned to Triple-A Norfolk.

The decision was made before today's workout, so it has nothing to do with him nailing Scott Moore on the elbow. Pure coincidence.

Matt Albers and Brian Burres are the top candidates to be the fifth starter if the Orioles don't make a trade. The loser could be a long reliever.

We can't forget about Jon Leicester, who makes Thursday's start.
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Pathetic. so much for "pitching and defense". criminy, give one of these guys, ANY OF THEM, a chance. think Burres is a long-term solution? look at these numbers and let me know if you really think so?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/burrebr01.shtml

and Jon Leicester??? http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/leicejo01.shtml

ugh. it's hard not to throw up your hands at the whole thing. it's only March 18!!!

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Albers

I'm picking Albers to win the 5th spot unless Marquis comes back in a Roberts trade. I can't imagine Leicester winning the 5th spot. That's a damn shame about Olson. He's never going to get a good chance to win a spot.

Rocky Cherry, son of Merry Cherry.

by birdman on Mar 18, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Burres?

Again? Come on now. I'd much prefer Olson or Albers in the rotation. Put Burres at swingman, where he belongs.

"Indeed"

by Jonnypops on Mar 18, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

believe me, i agree

but it sure looks like the O's are going out of their way to have him win a spot.

I came to Camden Yards to watch the O's and all I got was this lousy "Fenway South" t-shirt.

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Mar 18, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ridiculous

Burres has been shelled this spring. Olson has one of the lowest ERAs on the team. Why in God's name is he not being given a shot?

MelMo happy again!!

by zknower on Mar 18, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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Olson was completely overwhelmed last year, and Trembley was upset that he was a nibbler. Is he really ready now? I don't think he has much to prove in AAA, but perhaps Trembley and crew has other ideas.

I voted Burres in the recent poll if only because he does have experience, and I didn't know enough about Albers.

All these guys in AAA are not going to come up and pitch 6-7 innings. They'll abuse the bullpen. Seems to me at least Burres has a chance for a little consistency in getting to 6 innings. He may not do it well, but odds are better than with a guy really just coming up. Is Penn, Olson, or Liz going to be more reliable?

And why are we so upset about Burres as a #5? He is a swingman, so now he's swinging in. The opening day starter is rumored to be a spring training invitee without a big league contract. Cabrera is the highest paid starter. Loewen may be injured. No minor leaguer is clearly ready to be a consistent big league contributor. That's why a guy like Burres is a #5. He's just a symptom of a real big problem.

This is Birdland

by drj on Mar 18, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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And why are we so upset about Burres as a #5?

Because Burres sucks and has zero upside. He's a garbage time pitcher. I don't buy that Brian Burres is going to get 6-7 innings any easier than Olson would.

Gone but not forgotten...

by SC on Mar 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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Burres has averaged 5.2 innings per start. So 7 is a stretch.

Still, why the uproar? Olson will appear at some point. He was certainly underwhelming and mentally overmatched last year. Seems like he needs to be weaned a bit.

Olson, Albers, Burres. Why should I care who sucks it up at #5? If Olson needs seasoning, let Burres take the pounding in the meanwhile. The O's look to suck across the entire rotation, with Guthrie being the biggest question mark as to whether he'll be OK.

This is Birdland

by drj on Mar 19, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still, why the uproar?

I'm not really pissed about it. I wanted to see Olson take the last spot because his track record deserved a shot. My next preference is Albers because I believe he's a good bit younger (havent' check the age though). I'm not really excited about any of these guys but I much rather see them than Marquis.

Rocky Cherry, son of Merry Cherry.

by birdman on Mar 20, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is rather depressing, though...

...to hear about all this pitching we got in trade for Tejada and Bedard and then wind up with non-prospect Brian Burres as a starter. And why is Jon Leicester even in the discussion? Burres is maybe a decent long man, Leicester is a AAA starter. Albers and Olson (and many others) deserve chances before these guys do.

by KenDixonFanClub on Mar 18, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it all comes down to money

The only explanation i can think of is that they want to delay Olsen's service time by one year and therefore give us a relatively cheap year when we are hopefully closer to contention.

by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 18, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs