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Welcome to the new Camden Chat and SB Nation

Hey Camden Chat,

Today is the big day. We've switched your community over to the new SB Nation sports blog platform. My name is Trei, and I'm here to help you get adjusted to the new home we've built for you. If you have questions or trouble with the new system, post a comment in this thread and myself or one of the team (lovitt, sixfoot6 or odacrem) will try to point you in the right direction.

Before we begin, I want to let you know that Camden Chat is one of the first blogs in the SB Nation family to make this transition. We still consider this a beta platform, so don't be surprised if you find a few bugs or if everything isn't exactly right yet. We hope you'll take the time to report any problems you encounter at bugreport@sbnation.com.

Please take a few minutes to read about what's new below. But if you just can't wait to jump in, here are some quick things to check out:

  1. Sign up for your SB Nation network account and claim your old blog accounts
  2. Once you're logged in, press your  Z  key in any thread with new comments
  3. Explore your dashboard and setup your profile
  4. Read the guide to the new FanPost editor
  5. Install the FanShot bookmarklet and post videos to Camden Chat from YouTube or images from Flickr
  6. Click the "Rec" button on posts and comments to help other people find the good stuff.

What Has Changed

SB Nation Network Accounts - the Big Change

Readers across all of our blogs told us they wanted one account to use on every SB Nation blog. To make this work, we're requiring that everyone create a new SB Nation network account. In most cases you should be able to keep your old username, but a few of you may have to choose something new, since every other community in SB Nation will be going through this same transition. We tried to be as fair as possible in deciding who gets to keep which name, using a formula that takes into account length of membership and frequency of activity.

We want to make it as easy as possible for you to participate on all of our blogs, but we don't want to encourage everyone to start visiting rival team blogs and initiating flame wars. To maintain friendly communities we ask that you explicitly join each blog in order to participate. It's a two-click process, but it does means accepting each blog's community guidelines. Just as you join each blog individually, you can be banned on each blog individually.

You can claim old accounts from multiple SB Nation blogs, and your new username will be retroactively attached to all your old comments and diaries. So now you'll be able to access all your writings from your single profile page... like magic.

To get started, click here to claim your old blog accounts and create a new SB Nation network account.

FanPosts (the Section Formerly Known as Diaries)

We changed their name. Why? Because we took this major upgrade as an opportunity to leave behind some vocabulary that never made much sense for a sports blog. SB Nation is the network of, by and for fans, and these are the blog posts we make. So we call them FanPosts. When you're at a bar telling someone to check out your online sports opinions, you don't have to suggest they read your diary.

FanPosts are displayed differently on the homepage - we include your avatar to give more credit for the time you spend writing great posts. The new post editor has a WYSIWYG view that provides easy formatting. It also auto-saves drafts so you don't have to worry about losing your work when you compose a post within the web browser. And you can now associate teams, players and games with your posts: these tools promote your FanPosts on our new team, player and game pages - across the entire network.

The new system does not work like the old diary editor. For example, in HTML mode the new editor doesn't auto-create a new paragraph from two line breaks. But it does offer a whole array of new features. Look for the blinking help button on the right side of the FanPost editor for quick tips, and take a look at our full guide to writing FanPosts on the new platform.

IMPORTANT - if you write your posts in Microsoft Word or some other off-line editor, you will get the most reliable behavior if you cut & paste your post into the HTML view of the FanPost editor. And if you do that, remember to wrap <p></p> tags around each paragraph so your text doesn't run together.

Visual Redesign

This one is probably the most obvious change of all. Like other major websites working to improve readability for their audience, we've adopted a fixed-width layout optimized for the 1024 x 768 resolution used by the majority of Camden Chat and SB Nation network users. We introduced a navigation bar with quick links into old and new sections of the site. We also polished a few edges, made some things larger, others smaller and moved a few boxes here and there. More changes and adjustments to come.

Search

We've completely replaced the old search engine with a new one. We're excited to make it easier to find old posts and comments, but we've only taken our first pass on the tools we're offering. We're focused on making search even better than what you had before, so please know that we're aware search is missing key features and we're working on it.

What's New

Schedule, Scores, Stats and Roster

Camden Chat now has all the basic information about the Baltimore Orioles and hundreds of other teams. During games you'll see a regularly updated line score, and as the season progresses we'll track team stat totals and leaders. This is just our first step, so look for us to publish more detailed and archival stats in the future. The best part about all this sports data is that we've integrated it directly into the blog so. We now have special pages that aggregate all blog posts written about games, players and teams.

Recommending FanPosts

Some writing deserves more attention and more conversation. If you want to bump a FanPost up to the top and keep it there for awhile, just click the 'Rec' link under the body of the post. When a FanPost receives enough recommendations it will make the recommended list.

Auto-refreshing Comments

You no longer need to refresh the page to see new comments. If you're logged in, new comments will automatically appear on the page every few seconds. When you post a comment, the page will not refresh either. If you want to quickly cycle through all the new comments, you can press the C key on your keyboard. Unmark a new comment after you've read it with the X key. And use the Z key if you want to umark comments as you're cycling through them.

As you use these shortcuts to cycle through comments, press the R key to reply to the current comment. All these helpful keyboard shortcuts are listed at the top of each comments section for reference.

Recommending Comments

Now you can reward those folks who take the time to look up stats and make smart arguments in the comments. Next to each comment there is an 'actions' link that you can click to find the recommend and flag options.

Flagging Comments

To help the moderators on a site, we've built-in tools that let you flag comments that are spam, trolling or just plain inappropriate. Only moderators can see those flags.

FanShots

Many members of the community just want to post that one link, video, photo or quote, but don't need a full FanPost. We've got you covered: FanShots let you share YouTube videos, Flickr or PhotoBucket photos, quotes from articles, portions of chat transcripts, top 5 lists and simple links. If it's a video or image we'll put a thumbnail on the homepage when you post it.

For those of you who are experienced internet hunter-gatherers of Baltimore Orioles material, install the bookmarklet onto the links bar of your browser and share FanShots with the community from wherever on the web you find that killer quote or photo.

Archives

It's much easier to find that post about a certain deadline trade or prospect retro feature. You can browse by year and month.

Avatars

Upload an image so folks can see your custom avatar on your profile, your FanPosts, and all your comments.

Network Profiles

Now that we have unified SB Nation network accounts, your profile will be your central hub for all of your activity on any blogs where you are a member.

Network bar

The top bar stays with you on all SB Nation blogs. It's a quick way to login and logout. When you're logged in, you'll see your avatar and screen name which links to your profile. The icon to the right leads to your Dashboard area where you can edit your settings, profile, account details and any FanPosts or FanShots you've published. As we add more blogs to the new SB Nation network, the My Blogs menu will be a handy way to navigate between the blogs you've joined.

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There are plenty more small changes and additions we've made, so please take a careful look around and explore this new system. We appreciate your patience and hope you'll help us improve the new platform for this and all the other SB Nation blogs.

And in case you missed it, you'll want to start by claiming your old blog accounts and creating a new SB Nation network account.

FanPosts do not necessarily reflect the views of the editors of Camden Chat or SB Nation. They might, though.

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OMG, we can flag trolls?

SWEET.

Batting fourth....playing center field....

by zknower on Mar 24, 2008 8:09 AM EDT   1 recs

I formally protest this feature

because soon I'll be out of biznessssss

by PhilR8 on Mar 24, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Nice Look

I'm digging the new sleek look. Seems a bit cramped in a few places though.

by BluJay on Mar 24, 2008 11:05 AM EDT   0 recs

where does it feel cramped?

specific feedback is welcome

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 24, 2008 11:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm totally digging the new site

but agree it is cramped. Specifically, the center column and the right column (if that makes sense) almost take up an equal amount of screen space; I think the center column should be more prominant.

by PhilR8 on Mar 24, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like the new look!

I look forward to discovering all the new stuff.

One question, though, for the tech guys. Is it possible for me to change my screen name without creating an entirely new account? With the recent news of Javy retiring, perhaps it's time to retire this screen name as well.

by Stacey on Mar 24, 2008 12:27 PM EDT   0 recs

yeah, we can take care of that for you

send us an email to bugreport@sbnation.com with your request and be sure to include what name you'd rather have.

and for anyone else - if you want to do this w/ fewer steps - you can just choose your new name in the sign up process and then use our tool for claiming old blog accounts afterwards so you don't lose your diaries and comments. to do that go into the Edit Account screen and click 'claim old blog accounts' or just go here:

http://www.sbnation.com/account/migrate_accounts

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 24, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

re:

Make their job easy and just drop the "v".

Gibby needs a fan or two.

by drj on Mar 24, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It seems Mod privileges came over

At least, I have a button that says New Story.

Can mods push FanPosts to the front page as stories the way we could in the old setup?

I'm sad there's no more photos in sig lines.

by duck on Mar 24, 2008 1:29 PM EDT   0 recs

By Mods

do you mean that one gang in The Who's Quadrophenia?

by Jonny Pops on Mar 24, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually, I'm a Rocker...

but also a Mod, so as Ringo says, I guess I'm a Mocker.

"Do we get some sort of prize?"

by duck on Mar 25, 2008 12:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cramped space

I know this has been brought up plenty, but I still agree that things look cramped in the three-bar format on the front page. If the center content area column could be made roughly as wide as it is on the interior pages, it'd be a lot easier for us to include media, and it'd also just be easier to read. It's so narrow.

by SC on Mar 24, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

check out the new width switcher in the sidebar menu

you can go narrow (the default you launched with) or wide which is optimized for higher resolutions and larger monitors

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 26, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That is awesome

Formerly knowns as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Mar 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Title Font Size

Overall I like the changes very much...One thing that continues to bother me though after using the site throughout this first day is that the Font Size on the Titles of stories in the center column seems too large. That's my 2 cents.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 24, 2008 10:40 PM EDT   0 recs

I like it.

The new site looks tight.

Geaux Eaux's

by NawlinsOriole on Mar 25, 2008 1:07 AM EDT   0 recs

Some feedback

It'd be great if in the top "Recent Posts" box if there was some indication of a new comment being attached to the posts. Maybe something as simple as the link being bolded. That saves the reader from having to scroll down the entire page to check the comments on every story.

by Stacey on Mar 25, 2008 8:33 AM EDT   0 recs

I thought it did....

Which post listing where you referring to, because the Recent FanPosts does tell you when there are new comments, just like the old one did.

"Do we get some sort of prize?"

by duck on Mar 25, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm talking about the very top box, which only shows front page posts.

by Stacey on Mar 25, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Got it

Hadn't really noticed that box before. Yeah, that would be convenient.

"Do we get some sort of prize?"

by duck on Mar 25, 2008 1:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Let me just state

..that hitting "Z" to find new comments is awesome. Saves lots o' time. I used to have to do a manual find for "[new" before.

by zknower on Mar 25, 2008 11:38 PM EDT   0 recs

What happen to HTML formatting????

Is it official we can't use HTML formatting in replies anymore? I tried to, and I get nothing.

"Do we get some sort of prize?"

by duck on Mar 26, 2008 6:04 PM EDT   0 recs

The Box at the Top

which says "Tampa Bay Rays @ Baltimore Orioles Red" is way,way too big.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 26, 2008 10:46 PM EDT   0 recs

So

I've been using this newfangled version of CC all week and here's my thought out observations about it (hopefully the tech guys are still reading this thread):

1. My primary complaint is the new page takes too long to load onto the browser. This has been the case using several different computers, with several different high speed Internet connections. Now by "too long" I don't mean hours or minutes - I mean a few seconds longer to load than the old format. But still in this day and age it makes it seem cumbersome navigating in and out of different pages. I've tried to give it time to get used to it, but it's still bothersome, days later.

2. I wish the avatars within the comments themselves were a little bigger. There's space there. Give us a little more real estate and character in that section.

3. On my laptop, for whatever reason, I can't see the yellow shading that denotes new comments. On my desktop monitor and other computers I can see it, but for some reason it doesn't show on this screen. I can workaround this by hitting Z to tab to the new comments - but still it would be a little better if there was a "[new]" next to new comments - like we had on the old format.

4. Many others have noted this but I think the center column is too narrow.

That's it for now. Thanks for reading.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 29, 2008 1:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Center column - Did you try the WIDE option that's now available?

Just makin' sure...

"Do we get some sort of prize?"

by duck on Mar 29, 2008 1:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good feedback

here are some answers:

1. we're aware of this issue and it's a high priority ongoing project to improve the browser load times of all pages, but specifically larger comment threads. this is something we're hearing on all blogs.

2. we've heard this from others as well. we kept them this size so that they weren't too distracting from the comments themselves, but now that we've added the user option to turn off all avatars, we may revisit the size.

3. if you can't see the yellow tint on the comments you probably need to adjust the brightness (lower it) or contrast (increase it). you're probably missing other colors all over the web as well if you can't see the color we use. it's relatively subtle, but should normally be invisible to anyone that has their monitor configuration set normally.

4. I think Duck addressed this, but be sure to check out the wide option in the menu sidebar.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Signatures

Overall, I think it will be nice to have the single identity and login for different sites on SB nation. However, would it be possible to have different avatars and signatures on the different sites?

I'd like to keep my snarky anti-Cowboys signature on the Eagles' SB Nation site, but that's out-of-place on an O's site, just like any anti-Peter Angelos tirade I would add to my sig to be appropriate on Camden Chat would be out-of-place on any other site.

Is signing up with different usernames/e-mail addresses the only way to do this? Unfortunately, that sort of erases the benefits of having the single identity.

by BrianS on Apr 2, 2008 12:34 PM EDT   0 recs

we considered this, but thought it might be too complicated for some

however, we've heard it from others and might find a way to bring the idea back with a simple interface

thanks for the feedback

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Apr 2, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks!

I didn't really like this at first, but the auto-updating comments are really cool. It does make the site a lot more interactive. Which, my work is totally going to hate.

by BrianS on Apr 3, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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