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Gameday Thread: O's (6-4) @ Rays (5-5)

Baltimore Orioles at Tampa Bay Rays, Apr 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


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Daniel Cabrera, RH (0-0, 9.00/2.00) v. Jason Hammel, RH (0-1, 6.00/1.50)

Cabrera's pitched 10 innings in two starts, and walked nine batters. He's also given up 10 earned runs, 11 hits, and four homers. Yup. Any day now...

Game time is 7:10 on MASN. I'm going to duck out around 9 to catch Dawson-Johnson on Showtime, then watch the HBO welterweight card at 10. It's been a few weeks since there's been any notable boxing on in the States; I'm jonesing, and Daniel Cabrera starts tend to be pretty skippable.

Hammel lost a quality start in the sixth inning of his lone start this year, at New York. He's never been particularly good at pitching in the big leagues.

Tonight will be the Major League debut of Tampa Bay third baseman Evan Longoria, one of the best prospects in baseball. Willie Aybar went onto the DL. The Rays have been hit extremely hard by injuries, but Longoria is probably already a better player than Aybar. 

FUN STATS, ETC. 

  • Cabrera is 3-0 in five career starts at Tropicana Field. Over 29 1/3 in St. Pete, he's walked 24 and struck out 27, but Tampa Bay batters have hit a paltry .200 against them at their home park. Cabrera is 6-0 lifetime against the Rays despite that crap start last week.
  • Carlos Pena is 5-for-13 with two homers and four walks against Cabrera, with a robust 1.423 OPS.
  • Longoria hit .307/.403/.528 at Double-A last year (381 AB) and .269/.398/.490 at Triple-A (104 AB).
  • Nick Markakis still has zero home runs. What the F, yo? 

ORIOLES STARTING LINEUP 

B Roberts, 2B          .278/.395    1    5

M Mora, 3B             .243/.282    2    5

N Markakis, RF         .333/.488    0    2

K Millar, 1B           .250/.357    1    4

A Huff, DH             .270/.357    2   11

L Scott, LF            .429/.515    1    6

R Hernandez, C         .156/.171    1    5

L Hernandez, SS        .278/.348    0    3

 

RAYS STARTING LINEUP

A Iwamura, 2B          .250/.340    0    1

C Crawford, LF         .222/.255    0    2

C Pena, 1B             .216/.370    5   12

B Upton, CF            .270/.386    0    8

E Hinske, DH           .304/.407    2    4

E Longoria, 3B         ----/----    0    0

N Haynes, RF           .278/.278    0    0

S Riggans, C           .227/.261    1    5

E Johnson, SS          .143/.143    0    0

 

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Never in my wildest dreams

did I ever expect to come to this site and see a picture of not only Venom but also Carnage!

It's as if we went back in time to 1996 and I'm once again a dorky comic book nerd, but y'know...with the Orioles not winning.

by Chanumas on Apr 12, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice B. Ro

that's the way to do it

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PLUNK

Let's see a dong, Nick.

Wait.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

glad to hear Palmer tonight

Don't know what you got
'Til it's gone

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck you Nick

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jesus christ

Got the run, but two outs on it.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eat it, Kevin

Why is he hitting fourth still?

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is more like the Birdland I remember

Getting two men on with no outs, then fucking it up. Yeah, those're my Orioles.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mora, tejada and I THINK Nick...

nearly led the league in GIDPs last year. Those were my favorite.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Hinske and Cabrera have some bad blood from past tiffs?

I seem to remember harsh words/posturing/no actual fighting. Maybe we'll get to see a little excitement out there.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Hinske had some words for Cabrera once.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, Dave

We've been waiting five years.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in order to "repeat the process"

of pounding the strike zone, he'd have to do it at least once first, right? jeez I hate Cabrera.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

siddown Crawford

Y'know...maybe this is a good idea. Just bust the heat. Fuck it. Stop throwing 92, throw 97 again.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this ump also sucks

not as bad though

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just imagine

Instead of Aubrey Huff, we could've had Carlos Pena.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

83 mph changeup, 97 mph fastball

that fastball was a strike. ed hickox sux.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

Cabrera's throwing some stuff at 87-88. He's changing speed a lot here.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the ability to do little things

like find the strike zone

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let's give him 5 more years

SO MUCH POTENTIAL OMG

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder if Cabrera is like this with women

just can't close the deal....

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did Ramon take advice from Piazza?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you think Ricoh

could have done another commercial since last year?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shut up Amber

Wait -- Albers is starting on Monday?

SO WHAT THE FUCK IS JIM JOHNSON DOING UP?

And Dave didn't KNOW that Albers had 18 starts last year? He LOOKED IT UP?

Oh my God.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sry Amber

I didn't mean to tell you to shut up. Your information was valuable if infuriating. YAY AMBER

Jesus miracle.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the souvenir shop is upstairs

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF?

Albers getting the start, but we pull JJohnson up anyway? HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE CRAZY? AM I THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE RULES?

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and fahey is still on the team

why? is he giving trembly head or something?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh versatile, eh?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh boy

Now Jim Palmer is talking about Luke's belief in Jesus Christ. Who cares and all, but maybe leave it alone.

Jim should just write a fucking novel about his trip to Round Rock three years ago when Luke Scott hit 31 home runs.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ideally

i don't want to know what the O's religion or political leanings are. If I did, I'd probably like them a lot less

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtf Hunter

"Pop up to shallow center. That actually carries a bit."

It carries in the controlled environment without wind? Maybe it just wasn't actually to shallow center, boner.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE@!!!!!

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RUN, FATBOY, RUN

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Anyways, anyone flipping between this and the Wiz game? Pretty much the season for the Wiz against the 6ers here.

by Baltimo on Apr 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

go

sixers

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

"Longoria tested."

He's never seen a routine ground ball before.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well in his defense

Fahey's been in the Majors how long and each time he gets a grounder, he acts like he's never seen one before

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it that tough for a major leaguer to pull a fly ball?

there used to be managers who would fine their players if they couldn't get at least a sac fly if a guy was on 3rd with less than 2 outs

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT A BOY LUIS!

Word's getting around the league.

YOU ARE A BEAST.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So which O's do you think are gay?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a little criticism for b rob

he's a beast when he leads off an inning and gets to run the bases.

but he SUX at picking up runners on base. he's never focused in those situations.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

He hits .288/.372/.418 with runners on.

.265/.370/.405 with RISP.

.245/.361/.390 with RISP w/2 out.

.344/.395/.578 with the bases loaded.

.278/.340/.406 with the bases empty.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think that

more or less bears out what i'm saying

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you?

Because he hits 10 points better with runners on and has an OBP 32 points higher than when the bases are empty.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but

the 'runners on' includes bases loaded.
everybody hits better with bases loaded.
take away bases loaded .... not so good.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

But that does count.

Are you saying he's not CLUTCH?

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm saying he doesn't hit

with risp.

which those state clearly bear out.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.265 w/ risp?

terrible. that's my point.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

crappy RISP batting average

also explains why year in year out his runs scored are double his RBI

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what the fuck

He's a leadoff hitter that gets on base. Of course he scores more runs than he drives in. Who the shit is he going to drive in? Jay Payton?

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all im saying

is he lacks focus when he comes up to bat with RISP

clearly this bugs you

but sadly it is true.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

I was debating with you until you started with Brian Roberts' RBI totals. Now I just think you're out of your gourd and have a vendetta against Roberts.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, that's it!

i have a vendetta against brian roberts!!!

and batting average is meaningless.....

did you guys not see that last pathetic weak at bat with RISP?

stats never tell the whole story.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they tell more of a story than one at-bat

Batting average means a hell of a lot less than OBP.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude i've watched

probably 99% of brobs at bats since he's played with Os.

so i'm not making a judgment based on one at bat.

listen. like i said. i know it's hard for you. but sometimes the truth hurts a little.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it's hard to admit

that stats probably say more than your eyes do. I know it's hard for you to accept that Brian Roberts is always going to score more runs than he drives in because he's a leadoff hitter with good hitters behind him and generally bad hitters (7-8-9 on 65 win teams) getting on in front of him. But hey. Batting average. That .370 OBP is TERRIBLE.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thing is....

batting average with RISP doesn't say anything about whether the bottom of the order gets on because by definition they're on base.

so all the times they're not on base don't count toward the stat.

so --- um --- FAIL.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, dude

Fail. That's why his RBI totals are bad.

You know who else blew? Rickey Henderson. That fuckin' guy never drove in more than he scored. Like that year he scored 146 times and only drove in 72. What a piece of crap!

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude ... this is where i came in

his RBI totals are bad

(wait for it)

because he ISN'T SO GOOD at HITTING with RISP.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His RBI totals are "bad" (which they really aren't for a leadoff guy on terrible teams) because there's nobody on base.

He still has a .370 OBP with RISP. You know what that does? Puts another guy on base 37% of the time. Means he's not making an out 37% of the time.

And I think at this point I should say that I wasn't serious about you having a vendetta against Roberts, because I'm not trying to be a dick about this or anything. I just quite disagree with a lot of what you're saying. Which is OK.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're gonna have to do better

than plain RBI and AVG numbers if you wanna get anywhere dude.

they don't tell nearly enough of the story here. how many RBI chances does Roberts have? I guarantee you it is far less than he has chances to score. And AVG is practically meaningless.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also...RBI is a function of who is on base ahead of him

and pray tell who IS on base ahead of him? Nobody, that's who.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no they don't

the difference between .372/.418 and .370/.405 is probably not statistically significant.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG MLB DEBUT!!

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice debut

Fangoria

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you just beating Roch to the punch?

you'll know he'll use that line, man. I expect better out of you though, JP.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love rock

but he went off the rails today boy

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"he came right out and started throwing strikes"

Nice analysis, Jim. So he came out and started doing his job. Thanks

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what is it with Palmer and Doug Johns?

Was Johns Palmer's dealer or something? WTF?

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who knows

Jim Palmer's memoirs would be about Doug Johns and his trip to Round Rock, I think.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, that and how he would've won 300

if not for Weaver pulling him when he shouldn't have, and teammates making errors.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guthrie would say the same thing

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1, 2, 3

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice inning

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

could Joe Angel and Fred Manfra

do the games on MASN as well? That would be great.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I could tune in the Baltimore stations

I'd STILL take Fred over Hunter. And I'd take Joe Angel over anybody but Jon Miller. I miss Jon Miller.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have Extra Innings and MLB Radio

I use MLB Radio at work, sometimes I mute the TV and listen to MLB Radio at home as well, but it doesn't always sync up

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Miller has lost his touch

Though I like when he'll argue one of Morgan's idiotic "points" occasionally.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is still second only to Chuck Thompson in my book

plus, one my high school buddy's sister went to school and was good friends with his daughter. she was gorgeous. and a nice person. I had a ridiculous crush on her. Dunno how that's relevant...but there it is.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the banter

I bet these guys are a hoot to hang out with

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know right?

I know it seems like I complain, but really I just sort of feel like I'm in the conversation in a weird way.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are

If you were home or with Palmer, he wouldn't hear you either way

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like

he's only been cleaning up at dinner anyway

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you know?

Jeremy Guthrie's favorite movie is Serendipity

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

it was in the media guide last year.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said.

The guy is wholesome like Wonderbread.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, great

Rick Kranitz compares Dontrelle Willis and Daniel Cabrera. Here's a similarity: They both stink.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

siddown Pena

Hey it's one of those Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs days.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice D Cab

i guess this means your next start will be awful

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's what the call

should''ve been last night - if fatass Joe West wasn't so busy fantasizing what he was gonna get on his cheesesteak after the game.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking hell.

I have had it up to here with Carlos Pena.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

Ronnie's still a dillweed. And he's in a dump.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And he STILL hasn't gotten me

those Motorhead tickets!

/commercial break from Harry Potter on ABC in HD

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major League

by duck on Apr 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-4 Rays

Write it down.

by Baltimo on Apr 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, yes we know, we almost signed Pena

and even if we had you know he would've gotten shit for playing time and be back with some different team this year.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Longoria's first base hit

Something tells me Cabrera will never be in a booth talking about that like Palmer and Von Hayes.

Oh, whoop, E-4.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice job Fangoria

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So if we get a cushy lead (we won't)...

Does Cabrera nail Carlos Pena as revenge for hitting Melvin Mora?

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

neither am I

there was no way dude was trying to hit Mora. that would've been real silly at the time.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orioles pitchers have a history of being dirty and hitting Saintly/Virginal Baseball Players

I recall how demonized our team became as Armando Benitez nailed Tino Martinez in the back.

Tino had this Nancy Kerrigan look of "WHYYYYY????? WHYYYYYY?" on his face...

And then Cabs nailed like 10 people last year.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or he could just nail Pena

For being a big ass fucker who smashed us last night.

by Baltimo on Apr 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Crowley has been no help. I'm not sure

why he's even a coach," says Jones

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have never seen so many close pickoffs

as I have against the O's so far this year...might wanna work on that

by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so.. has anyone noticed anything new with cabrera?

difference in his pitching that they said he would bring into this start?

i notice the statline..

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one thing I've noticed

He's changing speeds a lot but doing it on his fastball, which he's throwing a lot more -- or so it seems. Maybe he's really not.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slider

He ditched the curveball for a slider.

by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slurve

It doesn't matter what he gave up, only a matter of time before he starts over throwing his slider and he has to "replace" it with a new pitch.

by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anita marks

is busted

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man

I just do not get why Anita Marks has never left 1996 with that haircut of hers.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"our boss is a huge fan of women"

from the Tampa commentators

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nothin' queer about that

straight man has got to notice this kinda stuff about women.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

woops

to y not comment above.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luuuuuuuuuuke

Let's go Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aw fuuuck

Backdoored him is right.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scott

He's been doing that a lot the past few days.

by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

holy shit

Cabrera puttin on the WHEELS to cover first.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Double play candidate

lets go daniel

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Danny

Do whatever the hell it was you were doing before.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well shit

That was a nice hit and run.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn hit and run

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Longoria

First hit, first RBI, first up-close Cabrera meltdown.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, Danny....

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC

by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just About to Ask

if anyone was warming up

by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon now

Can we watch the game instead of the Longoria family?

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullshit Cabs..

don't fuck this up after pitching well all game

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

goddamn it

This is two days straight that I have to duck out of the game early and both days it's gotten really scary at the same time.

DOUBLE PLAY

HELLS YEAH

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Minimal damage

Like it or not, Daniel got the ground balls he needed. He didn't cut down their leads at all, but doggone it he got the ground balls.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am so ordering that DVD

I'm gonna be the next Billy Ripken

by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ramon is seeing the ball terribly

his solution: go up hacking.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AJ couldn't sit on that hanger long enough

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

keep me abreast, dudes

I'm keeping this open even though I'm watching the fights.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck

Steve Albert and Al Bernstein keep yappin'. I'ma catch some of this.

Danny's still in there? Sweet.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

big daniel

i think we all awe mr. cabrera a nice golf clap tonite. no matter who blows this game later.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

word

Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LET'S GO WALKER!!

Wouldn't want anyone else in here but this guy.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As Joe Angel points out...

another favorable score by the scorekeeper who ruled it a hit instead of an error. This happened last night with Luis too.

by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Jamie...

Rays fit in a skillet.

Why the Hell Not?

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Daniel Cabrera giving up only one run in 6.2 innings

Is Birdland

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC

by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

Why the Hell Not?

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hell yeah!

Man... great job Cabrera... great recovery, Walker.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Luke scott scares me on those fly balls

hes a bit rough in the outfield. His bats worth it though.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's coming in the 8th?

Bierd? I don't even know who our setup guy is.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All right! Wizards win

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bruins-Habs

2-2 in the third? WTF?

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comparisons to Jamie Moyer

are a nice way of saying he has mediocre stuff

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow - Cabrera's new look

Competence. At least for one night.

Now the bullpen.

Come one, let's stay in Birdland.

by drj on Apr 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Millar's been putting up some bad ab's lately

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh jesus

don't let nick be hurt

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

luckily it was a curveball

hit on right wrist.
i think he's ok but it looked a bit dicey at first.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That better not have hurt Nick.

If it did, I will kill that dillweed pitcher. Hand/wrist injuries can ruin hitters (see: Garciaparra, Nomar).

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw a Philly Flyer take a slapshot puck to the face

Now THAT hurts...Nicky can rub some dirt in it

by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Walker's chances here.

Pena scares the hell out of me at all times, anyway.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate these drawn out ab's

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shit.

Why the Hell Not?

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

are you fucking kidding me?

where's Aquino to clean up the mess

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

should have just hit him

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly

YOU should be managing the O's

by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You just know the O's

can't win low-scoring games like this.

Why the Hell Not?

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thpttttpttttptpt

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC

by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why do we even compete?

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

theres no point to this

were losing this damn game

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.

hahaha oh well. i'm still a walker fan.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a Walker fan...

...but not a Trembley fan. Pena destroys Walker. Why send him out there to face him?

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should note

I have nothing but anecdotal evidence upon which to base this assertion.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahah

I can't fault any of them... I can see Trembley's POV: lightning doesn't strike twice.

Well it does in Birdland, unfortunately.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can and will blame both of them

but mostly because I'm bitter and a little drunk.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Save the bitter for a loss

We ARE still in this... just gotta make B-Rob and Millar step up

by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yesterday was Pena's first ever hit off of Walker

He came into today 1-for-6. But uh, yeah. He seems like maybe he's figured Jamie out.

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pena

is a legit blue chip player too ..... can't really take it away from him.

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care how likable their young guys are

fuck the rays!

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT'S a pickoff move

Pay attention D CABS

by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rays announcer, borrowing from a sign an old lady was holding:

"That's Pena Punch, that's what that is!!!"

I wish I had access to this announcer. I'd love to break his nose.

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

word

these guys need a beatin' or two.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh never mind. now there's two outs.

great fuckin' job, guys.

Why the Hell Not?

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice!!!!!!!

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable!

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the bad guy is oozing machismo at the plate!

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

orioles magic?

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i just yelled really loud

i think my neighbors are pissed.

also some british cunt has me on old. intl calling is not cheap

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on hold....

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still on hold

this is not a game. just a simple question....

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Razor BIRDLAND, BITCHEZ

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC

by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wheeler picked up some things from Lidge in Houston

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Habs win in OT! fuck boston

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah dude

fuck boston

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh Sherrill...

...sporting the Flat Black.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

little scary there....

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

watch the outfielders

not the ball

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooooooooh

gettin' a lil too close for comfort there.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

like this?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does hickox have diarrhea or something?

lots of these pitches seem to be off the plate.. not that i'll complain about that now..

by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OS WIN OS WIN OS WIN

Nice win. We needed this one.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice!!!

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BIRDLAND

Why the Hell Not?

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sherrill

had a plus stuff tonight. So did Daniel.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah .... cabrera

really was a stopper tonight

by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how

every called strike is wrong according to the fans.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Niiiiiiiiiiiiice!

Birdland is back bitches!!!!

by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stop saying rubber game

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's gonna be a long ride

Watching the Wankees and Pink Sux in the rearview

by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So....Cabrera's Approach Tonight...

...appeared to be "throw smoke" and, occasionally "throw hard breaking stuff." And it worked. He just kinda went out there and said "hit it if you can find it," and they didn't.

Is he turning a corner with this approach, or is it just more of the same potential that keeps the Os interested?

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, I certainly prefer it to the usual Daniel Cabrera

But he's going to have to put up a lot more games like this before I'm convinced he doesn't actually suck.

Still, only 3 BBs today. For him, thats huge...

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC

by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

c'mon, dude.

Are we really going to do this again just because he had one good start?

by SC on Apr 12, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am when I'm a little drunk.

Mostly I wanted to know what other folks thought. I agree that it's probably just the usual flash in the pan nonsense.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 13, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...

Kinda... at least for a day.

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on Apr 13, 2008 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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