Gameday Thread: O's (6-4) @ Rays (5-5)
Baltimore Orioles at Tampa Bay Rays, Apr 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
Daniel Cabrera, RH (0-0, 9.00/2.00) v. Jason Hammel, RH (0-1, 6.00/1.50)
Cabrera's pitched 10 innings in two starts, and walked nine batters. He's also given up 10 earned runs, 11 hits, and four homers. Yup. Any day now...
Game time is 7:10 on MASN. I'm going to duck out around 9 to catch Dawson-Johnson on Showtime, then watch the HBO welterweight card at 10. It's been a few weeks since there's been any notable boxing on in the States; I'm jonesing, and Daniel Cabrera starts tend to be pretty skippable.
Hammel lost a quality start in the sixth inning of his lone start this year, at New York. He's never been particularly good at pitching in the big leagues.
Tonight will be the Major League debut of Tampa Bay third baseman Evan Longoria, one of the best prospects in baseball. Willie Aybar went onto the DL. The Rays have been hit extremely hard by injuries, but Longoria is probably already a better player than Aybar.
FUN STATS, ETC.
- Cabrera is 3-0 in five career starts at Tropicana Field. Over 29 1/3 in St. Pete, he's walked 24 and struck out 27, but Tampa Bay batters have hit a paltry .200 against them at their home park. Cabrera is 6-0 lifetime against the Rays despite that crap start last week.
- Carlos Pena is 5-for-13 with two homers and four walks against Cabrera, with a robust 1.423 OPS.
- Longoria hit .307/.403/.528 at Double-A last year (381 AB) and .269/.398/.490 at Triple-A (104 AB).
- Nick Markakis still has zero home runs. What the F, yo?
ORIOLES STARTING LINEUP
B Roberts, 2B .278/.395 1 5
M Mora, 3B .243/.282 2 5
N Markakis, RF .333/.488 0 2
K Millar, 1B .250/.357 1 4
A Huff, DH .270/.357 2 11
L Scott, LF .429/.515 1 6
R Hernandez, C .156/.171 1 5
L Hernandez, SS .278/.348 0 3
RAYS STARTING LINEUP
A Iwamura, 2B .250/.340 0 1
C Crawford, LF .222/.255 0 2
C Pena, 1B .216/.370 5 12
B Upton, CF .270/.386 0 8
E Hinske, DH .304/.407 2 4
E Longoria, 3B ----/---- 0 0
N Haynes, RF .278/.278 0 0
S Riggans, C .227/.261 1 5
E Johnson, SS .143/.143 0 0
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Never in my wildest dreams
did I ever expect to come to this site and see a picture of not only Venom but also Carnage!
It's as if we went back in time to 1996 and I'm once again a dorky comic book nerd, but y'know...with the Orioles not winning.
by Chanumas on Apr 12, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice B. Ro
that's the way to do it
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big inning here. It's coming. I can feel it.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't jinx us
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
glad to hear Palmer tonight
Don't know what you got
'Til it's gone
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck you Nick
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jesus christ
Got the run, but two outs on it.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least he didn't strike out
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a little
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eat it, Kevin
Why is he hitting fourth still?
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is more like the Birdland I remember
Getting two men on with no outs, then fucking it up. Yeah, those're my Orioles.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mora, tejada and I THINK Nick...
nearly led the league in GIDPs last year. Those were my favorite.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Hinske and Cabrera have some bad blood from past tiffs?
I seem to remember harsh words/posturing/no actual fighting. Maybe we'll get to see a little excitement out there.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in order to "repeat the process"
of pounding the strike zone, he'd have to do it at least once first, right? jeez I hate Cabrera.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
siddown Crawford
Y'know...maybe this is a good idea. Just bust the heat. Fuck it. Stop throwing 92, throw 97 again.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this ump also sucks
not as bad though
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just imagine
Instead of Aubrey Huff, we could've had Carlos Pena.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
83 mph changeup, 97 mph fastball
that fastball was a strike. ed hickox sux.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
Cabrera's throwing some stuff at 87-88. He's changing speed a lot here.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the ability to do little things
like find the strike zone
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well when we see it all come together...
Five years hasn't been enough.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's give him 5 more years
SO MUCH POTENTIAL OMG
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if Cabrera is like this with women
just can't close the deal....
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he appeared to be closing a deal with Razor, there.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did Ramon take advice from Piazza?
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
small miracles happen every day
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you think Ricoh
could have done another commercial since last year?
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shut up Amber
Wait -- Albers is starting on Monday?
SO WHAT THE FUCK IS JIM JOHNSON DOING UP?
And Dave didn't KNOW that Albers had 18 starts last year? He LOOKED IT UP?
Oh my God.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the souvenir shop is upstairs
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
Albers getting the start, but we pull JJohnson up anyway? HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE CRAZY? AM I THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE RULES?
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and fahey is still on the team
why? is he giving trembly head or something?
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh versatile, eh?
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh boy
Now Jim Palmer is talking about Luke's belief in Jesus Christ. Who cares and all, but maybe leave it alone.
Jim should just write a fucking novel about his trip to Round Rock three years ago when Luke Scott hit 31 home runs.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf Hunter
"Pop up to shallow center. That actually carries a bit."
It carries in the controlled environment without wind? Maybe it just wasn't actually to shallow center, boner.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NICE@!!!!!
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RUN, FATBOY, RUN
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Anyways, anyone flipping between this and the Wiz game? Pretty much the season for the Wiz against the 6ers here.
by Baltimo on Apr 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well in his defense
Fahey's been in the Majors how long and each time he gets a grounder, he acts like he's never seen one before
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it that tough for a major leaguer to pull a fly ball?
there used to be managers who would fine their players if they couldn't get at least a sac fly if a guy was on 3rd with less than 2 outs
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THAT A BOY LUIS!
Word's getting around the league.
YOU ARE A BEAST.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So which O's do you think are gay?
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a little criticism for b rob
he's a beast when he leads off an inning and gets to run the bases.
but he SUX at picking up runners on base. he's never focused in those situations.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
He hits .288/.372/.418 with runners on.
.265/.370/.405 with RISP.
.245/.361/.390 with RISP w/2 out.
.344/.395/.578 with the bases loaded.
.278/.340/.406 with the bases empty.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think that
more or less bears out what i'm saying
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you?
Because he hits 10 points better with runners on and has an OBP 32 points higher than when the bases are empty.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but
the 'runners on' includes bases loaded.
everybody hits better with bases loaded.
take away bases loaded .... not so good.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm saying he doesn't hit
with risp.
which those state clearly bear out.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.265 w/ risp?
terrible. that's my point.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he gets on base 37% of the time
It's not terrible. At all.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crappy RISP batting average
also explains why year in year out his runs scored are double his RBI
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this assumes that batting average is meaningful.
it ain't.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the fuck
He's a leadoff hitter that gets on base. Of course he scores more runs than he drives in. Who the shit is he going to drive in? Jay Payton?
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all im saying
is he lacks focus when he comes up to bat with RISP
clearly this bugs you
but sadly it is true.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I was debating with you until you started with Brian Roberts' RBI totals. Now I just think you're out of your gourd and have a vendetta against Roberts.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, that's it!
i have a vendetta against brian roberts!!!
and batting average is meaningless.....
did you guys not see that last pathetic weak at bat with RISP?
stats never tell the whole story.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they tell more of a story than one at-bat
Batting average means a hell of a lot less than OBP.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude i've watched
probably 99% of brobs at bats since he's played with Os.
so i'm not making a judgment based on one at bat.
listen. like i said. i know it's hard for you. but sometimes the truth hurts a little.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's hard to admit
that stats probably say more than your eyes do. I know it's hard for you to accept that Brian Roberts is always going to score more runs than he drives in because he's a leadoff hitter with good hitters behind him and generally bad hitters (7-8-9 on 65 win teams) getting on in front of him. But hey. Batting average. That .370 OBP is TERRIBLE.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thing is....
batting average with RISP doesn't say anything about whether the bottom of the order gets on because by definition they're on base.
so all the times they're not on base don't count toward the stat.
so --- um --- FAIL.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, dude
Fail. That's why his RBI totals are bad.
You know who else blew? Rickey Henderson. That fuckin' guy never drove in more than he scored. Like that year he scored 146 times and only drove in 72. What a piece of crap!
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude ... this is where i came in
his RBI totals are bad
(wait for it)
because he ISN'T SO GOOD at HITTING with RISP.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His RBI totals are "bad" (which they really aren't for a leadoff guy on terrible teams) because there's nobody on base.
He still has a .370 OBP with RISP. You know what that does? Puts another guy on base 37% of the time. Means he's not making an out 37% of the time.
And I think at this point I should say that I wasn't serious about you having a vendetta against Roberts, because I'm not trying to be a dick about this or anything. I just quite disagree with a lot of what you're saying. Which is OK.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're gonna have to do better
than plain RBI and AVG numbers if you wanna get anywhere dude.
they don't tell nearly enough of the story here. how many RBI chances does Roberts have? I guarantee you it is far less than he has chances to score. And AVG is practically meaningless.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also...RBI is a function of who is on base ahead of him
and pray tell who IS on base ahead of him? Nobody, that's who.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no they don't
the difference between .372/.418 and .370/.405 is probably not statistically significant.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG MLB DEBUT!!
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice debut
Fangoria
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you just beating Roch to the punch?
you'll know he'll use that line, man. I expect better out of you though, JP.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love rock
but he went off the rails today boy
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"he came right out and started throwing strikes"
Nice analysis, Jim. So he came out and started doing his job. Thanks
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what is it with Palmer and Doug Johns?
Was Johns Palmer's dealer or something? WTF?
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who knows
Jim Palmer's memoirs would be about Doug Johns and his trip to Round Rock, I think.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, that and how he would've won 300
if not for Weaver pulling him when he shouldn't have, and teammates making errors.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guthrie would say the same thing
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1, 2, 3
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice inning
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
could Joe Angel and Fred Manfra
do the games on MASN as well? That would be great.
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
although I'll be fair
I think I now prefer Fred to Hunter.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I had access to WBAL..
I liked Fred Manfra
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I could tune in the Baltimore stations
I'd STILL take Fred over Hunter. And I'd take Joe Angel over anybody but Jon Miller. I miss Jon Miller.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have Extra Innings and MLB Radio
I use MLB Radio at work, sometimes I mute the TV and listen to MLB Radio at home as well, but it doesn't always sync up
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Miller has lost his touch
Though I like when he'll argue one of Morgan's idiotic "points" occasionally.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is still second only to Chuck Thompson in my book
plus, one my high school buddy's sister went to school and was good friends with his daughter. she was gorgeous. and a nice person. I had a ridiculous crush on her. Dunno how that's relevant...but there it is.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell no.
I was historically inept in high school.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmmmm Beef O'Brady's
sounds Pukelicious.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the banter
I bet these guys are a hoot to hang out with
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know right?
I know it seems like I complain, but really I just sort of feel like I'm in the conversation in a weird way.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter: "I don't go to the pool. I do research!"
That's why you're orange and ill-informed.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Millar's position as cleanup needs to be re-evaluated.. for the time being.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
looks like
he's only been cleaning up at dinner anyway
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know?
Jeremy Guthrie's favorite movie is Serendipity
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
it was in the media guide last year.
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said.
The guy is wholesome like Wonderbread.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, great
Rick Kranitz compares Dontrelle Willis and Daniel Cabrera. Here's a similarity: They both stink.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hopefully cabrera will hyperextend his knee also.
okay, i didn't mean that.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
siddown Pena
Hey it's one of those Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs days.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice D Cab
i guess this means your next start will be awful
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what the call
should''ve been last night - if fatass Joe West wasn't so busy fantasizing what he was gonna get on his cheesesteak after the game.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a nice play.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Apr 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fucking hell.
I have had it up to here with Carlos Pena.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
Ronnie's still a dillweed. And he's in a dump.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he STILL hasn't gotten me
those Motorhead tickets!
/commercial break from Harry Potter on ABC in HD
"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major League
by duck on Apr 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Tampa commentators are such homers
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Been out workin' on the boat all day
Are my O's ok today?
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, yes we know, we almost signed Pena
and even if we had you know he would've gotten shit for playing time and be back with some different team this year.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Longoria's first base hit
Something tells me Cabrera will never be in a booth talking about that like Palmer and Von Hayes.
Oh, whoop, E-4.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice job Fangoria
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So if we get a cushy lead (we won't)...
Does Cabrera nail Carlos Pena as revenge for hitting Melvin Mora?
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am in no way encouraging this action.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither am I
there was no way dude was trying to hit Mora. that would've been real silly at the time.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orioles pitchers have a history of being dirty and hitting Saintly/Virginal Baseball Players
I recall how demonized our team became as Armando Benitez nailed Tino Martinez in the back.
Tino had this Nancy Kerrigan look of "WHYYYYY????? WHYYYYYY?" on his face...
And then Cabs nailed like 10 people last year.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or he could just nail Pena
For being a big ass fucker who smashed us last night.
by Baltimo on Apr 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Crowley has been no help. I'm not sure
why he's even a coach," says Jones
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have never seen so many close pickoffs
as I have against the O's so far this year...might wanna work on that
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so.. has anyone noticed anything new with cabrera?
difference in his pitching that they said he would bring into this start?
i notice the statline..
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one thing I've noticed
He's changing speeds a lot but doing it on his fastball, which he's throwing a lot more -- or so it seems. Maybe he's really not.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, earlier i saw a lot of changeup-fastball mixups...
now it's all fastballs..
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slider
He ditched the curveball for a slider.
by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was it ever REALLY a curveball or a slider?
It always just seemed like a bad slurve.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully that was a harmless walk.
Cmon Cabs.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anita marks
is busted
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man
I just do not get why Anita Marks has never left 1996 with that haircut of hers.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you're a cool guy and all..
but that was totally a queer-eye-style comment hahahahha
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"our boss is a huge fan of women"
from the Tampa commentators
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nothin' queer about that
straight man has got to notice this kinda stuff about women.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scott
He's been doing that a lot the past few days.
by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That pitch, according to gamecast... was the mirror image
of the pitch that DCabs had on Pena 1st inning (except his was inside)
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this one was cross the plate
No doubt about it.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy shit
Cabrera puttin on the WHEELS to cover first.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Double play candidate
lets go daniel
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
D Cabs oughta think about being a dog sitter
He likes to walk so much
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Danny
Do whatever the hell it was you were doing before.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn hit and run
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
desperate housewife
will hit into a DP.
(i hope.)
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Longoria
First hit, first RBI, first up-close Cabrera meltdown.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Danny....
MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC
by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the Rays have a real hard-on for retrieving balls
Or at least Jonny Gomes does.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just About to Ask
if anyone was warming up
by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon now
Can we watch the game instead of the Longoria family?
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bullshit Cabs..
don't fuck this up after pitching well all game
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
goddamn it
This is two days straight that I have to duck out of the game early and both days it's gotten really scary at the same time.
DOUBLE PLAY
HELLS YEAH
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Minimal damage
Like it or not, Daniel got the ground balls he needed. He didn't cut down their leads at all, but doggone it he got the ground balls.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so ordering that DVD
I'm gonna be the next Billy Ripken
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramon is seeing the ball terribly
his solution: go up hacking.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AJ couldn't sit on that hanger long enough
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should all chip in
And bur Ramon the Billy Ripken DVD
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have another drink...
MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC
by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep me abreast, dudes
I'm keeping this open even though I'm watching the fights.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's going to pitch to pena again
you know .... if the horse bucks you, get back on
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck
Steve Albert and Al Bernstein keep yappin'. I'ma catch some of this.
Danny's still in there? Sweet.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
big daniel
i think we all awe mr. cabrera a nice golf clap tonite. no matter who blows this game later.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LET'S GO WALKER!!
Wouldn't want anyone else in here but this guy.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As Joe Angel points out...
another favorable score by the scorekeeper who ruled it a hit instead of an error. This happened last night with Luis too.
by PWubbs on Apr 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Jamie...
Rays fit in a skillet.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Daniel Cabrera giving up only one run in 6.2 innings
Is Birdland
MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC
by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah!
Man... great job Cabrera... great recovery, Walker.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luke scott scares me on those fly balls
hes a bit rough in the outfield. His bats worth it though.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's coming in the 8th?
Bierd? I don't even know who our setup guy is.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All right! Wizards win
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruins-Habs
2-2 in the third? WTF?
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does B-Rob continue to switch hit...
...when he can really only hit lefty?
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Comparisons to Jamie Moyer
are a nice way of saying he has mediocre stuff
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow - Cabrera's new look
Competence. At least for one night.
Now the bullpen.
Come one, let's stay in Birdland.
by drj on Apr 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Millar's been putting up some bad ab's lately
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
luckily it was a curveball
hit on right wrist.
i think he's ok but it looked a bit dicey at first.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That better not have hurt Nick.
If it did, I will kill that dillweed pitcher. Hand/wrist injuries can ruin hitters (see: Garciaparra, Nomar).
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw a Philly Flyer take a slapshot puck to the face
Now THAT hurts...Nicky can rub some dirt in it
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Walker's chances here.
Pena scares the hell out of me at all times, anyway.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate these drawn out ab's
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you fucking kidding me?
where's Aquino to clean up the mess
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
should have just hit him
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
YOU should be managing the O's
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just know the O's
can't win low-scoring games like this.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thpttttpttttptpt
MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC
by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why do we even compete?
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
theres no point to this
were losing this damn game
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow.
hahaha oh well. i'm still a walker fan.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Walker fan...
...but not a Trembley fan. Pena destroys Walker. Why send him out there to face him?
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should note
I have nothing but anecdotal evidence upon which to base this assertion.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahah
I can't fault any of them... I can see Trembley's POV: lightning doesn't strike twice.
Well it does in Birdland, unfortunately.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can and will blame both of them
but mostly because I'm bitter and a little drunk.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Save the bitter for a loss
We ARE still in this... just gotta make B-Rob and Millar step up
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yesterday was Pena's first ever hit off of Walker
He came into today 1-for-6. But uh, yeah. He seems like maybe he's figured Jamie out.
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pena
is a legit blue chip player too ..... can't really take it away from him.
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care how likable their young guys are
fuck the rays!
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S a pickoff move
Pay attention D CABS
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rays announcer, borrowing from a sign an old lady was holding:
"That's Pena Punch, that's what that is!!!"
I wish I had access to this announcer. I'd love to break his nose.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
word
these guys need a beatin' or two.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hit that fuckin' ball
out of the fuckin' park.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we were pretty uppity 4 days ago.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happenned to Huff, gamecast froze.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh never mind. now there's two outs.
great fuckin' job, guys.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice!!!!!!!
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable!
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the bad guy is oozing machismo at the plate!
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THATS RAZOR PUNCH.. that's what that is!!!!
ahuhhuhuhuhhu
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
orioles magic?
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on Apr 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES YES YES THIS IS BIRDLAND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i just yelled really loud
i think my neighbors are pissed.
also some british cunt has me on old. intl calling is not cheap
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on hold....
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still on hold
this is not a game. just a simple question....
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Razor BIRDLAND, BITCHEZ
MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC
by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Spanked the SNOT outta that shit
Great Pitcher Change!
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wheeler picked up some things from Lidge in Houston
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Habs win in OT! fuck boston
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahhhh Sherrill...
...sporting the Flat Black.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on, Sherrrill, flatten these guys.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on Apr 12, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by the way... gamecast linking home runs and run-scoring plays to video
is awesome.
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
little scary there....
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
watch the outfielders
not the ball
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooooooooh
gettin' a lil too close for comfort there.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
like this?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does hickox have diarrhea or something?
lots of these pitches seem to be off the plate.. not that i'll complain about that now..
by Y Not on Apr 12, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OS WIN OS WIN OS WIN
Nice win. We needed this one.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice!!!
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherrill
had a plus stuff tonight. So did Daniel.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah .... cabrera
really was a stopper tonight
by thewaywardO on Apr 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how
every called strike is wrong according to the fans.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Niiiiiiiiiiiiice!
Birdland is back bitches!!!!
by Jonny Pops on Apr 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stop saying rubber game
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
by exitfare on Apr 12, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's gonna be a long ride
Watching the Wankees and Pink Sux in the rearview
by Bromo on Apr 12, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So....Cabrera's Approach Tonight...
...appeared to be "throw smoke" and, occasionally "throw hard breaking stuff." And it worked. He just kinda went out there and said "hit it if you can find it," and they didn't.
Is he turning a corner with this approach, or is it just more of the same potential that keeps the Os interested?
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I certainly prefer it to the usual Daniel Cabrera
But he's going to have to put up a lot more games like this before I'm convinced he doesn't actually suck.
Still, only 3 BBs today. For him, thats huge...
MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC
by spike2131 on Apr 12, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon, dude.
Are we really going to do this again just because he had one good start?
by SC on Apr 12, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am when I'm a little drunk.
Mostly I wanted to know what other folks thought. I agree that it's probably just the usual flash in the pan nonsense.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 13, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...

Kinda... at least for a day.
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
by dayzd toe on Apr 13, 2008 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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