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Gameday Thread: Blue Jays (7-5) @ O's (7-5)

Toronto Blue Jays @ Baltimore Orioles


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Dustin McGowan, RH (0-0, 3.27/1.55) v. Matt Albers, RH (1-0, 0.00/0.47)

Game time is 7:05 on MASN. The battle for AL East supremacy BEGINS!

Albers is making his first Orioles start, after Dave Trembley "looked it up and saw" that he made 18 starts for the Astros last year. Really let that one sink in. Trembley had a guy in the running for the fifth starter's job this spring, threw him in the bullpen, and was apparently unaware that he was a starter for the Houston Astros in 2007. If that's not a manager on top of things, I don't know what is.

Fat Albers has done a good job from the pen in the young season, striking out seven in six and a third and not conceding a single walk, which is a mild surprise given his past command/control problems in the minors. Many scouts and such have said that he might be best off in the bullpen, but what exactly would the Orioles be losing giving him a shot at starting? With Burres and Trachsel in the rotation and Adam Loewen's injury history, I expect we'll see him get a real shot at some point, even if it's only because someone else is a complete failure.

McGowan had a really good 2007 despite the Blue Jays' pretty clear mishandling of him for a couple of seasons. He's just turned 26 in late March, has good stuff and was damn tough to hit last season, giving up just 146 hits in an out under 170 innings pitched.

FUN STATS, ETC. 

  • Too bad we don't have Jay Gibbons today. No, seriously -- he's 5-for-9 with a homer against McGowan. But Brian Roberts is 4-for-8 with a homer against Big Dust.
  • Scott Rolen hits .304/.421/.617 against the Orioles. Luckily, he's on the DL.
  • Frank Thomas hits .292/.425/.515 with 15 homers in 65 career games at Camden Yards.
  • In 216 career at-bats against the Jays, Ramon Hernandez hits .231/.282/.324.
BLUE JAYS STARTING LINEUP

D Eckstein, SS         .250/.340    0    6

M Stairs, RF           .296/.345    1    1

A Hill, 2B             .326/.385    1    9

V Wells, CF            .320/.393    3   12

F Thomas, DH           .184/.354    3   10

L Overbay, 1B          .267/.327    0    5

S Stewart, LF          .280/.387    0    2

G Zaun, C              .258/.281    0    2

J Inglett, 3B          .500/.444    0    3

 

ORIOLES STARTING LINEUP

B Roberts, 2B          .311/.404    1    5

M Mora, 3B             .227/.292    2    5

N Markakis, RF         .333/.490    1    4

K Millar, 1B           .227/.320    1    4

A Huff, DH             .244/.320    2   11

L Scott, LF            .361/.439    1    6

R Hernandez, C         .194/.205    2    7

A Jones, CF            .211/.225    0    2

L Hernandez, SS        .250/.346    0    3

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at some point tonight

there will be a Thomas grand slam

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 4:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Albers

A great start today will put Burres' spot in the rotation on a very short lease.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Apr 14, 2008 4:44 PM EDT   0 recs

So..

you're saying Hernandez hits the Jays well?

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Apr 14, 2008 5:02 PM EDT   0 recs

There goes the one guy we can hit.

SEATTLE (AP)—Pitchers Arthur Rhodes and R.A. Dickey were brought up Monday by the Seattle Mariners, who optioned struggling reliever Eric O’Flaherty to Double-A West Tenn.

by Y Not on Apr 14, 2008 6:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Arthur Rhodes is still pitching??????

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major League

by duck on Apr 14, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

y'know...

Look at those numbers. If they would bunch Roberts, Markakis and Scott together, they'd be scoring more runs. Mora and Millar are negating a lot of the good things that Brian and Nick are doing up top.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 6:26 PM EDT   0 recs

yessir, good ole "pie face" macgowan...

i wish there were nicknames like mordecai "three fingers" brown or harold "pie" traynor.

by j.q. higgins on Apr 14, 2008 6:56 PM EDT   0 recs

what the fuck

I don't know if I like this new Extra Innings schedule screen music. It's all power metal-y. Like really bad pro wrestling entrance music from the WCW Saturday Night as third-most important show era. T. Rantula could've come out to this. Or maybe Super Calo.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 6:58 PM EDT   0 recs

There's BAD power metal?

Sacrilege!

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major League

by duck on Apr 14, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

Adam Jones has no respect for either anthem. Luke Scott has TONS.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:06 PM EDT   0 recs

good job Buck

"Pretty soon they're gonna get another David Eckstein, just a bigger David Eckstein, when Scott Rolen gets back..."

???

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:10 PM EDT   0 recs

I told you all

Jimmy wasn't getting the start it was another pitcher all along, Trembley just wanted to fuck around with us!

by Baltimo on Apr 14, 2008 7:10 PM EDT   0 recs

which is awesome

Glad Brandon Fahey's still here.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Stupid MLB.TV

I guess I'm watching the Tides until it settles down.

SS Scott Moore at the plate with a man on second.

by dkdc on Apr 14, 2008 7:11 PM EDT   0 recs

base hit Matt Stairs

That is a man who Knows How to Hit. Which if he did it for the Yankees would make him a guy who Knows How to Win.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:12 PM EDT   0 recs

he is also a man...

w/ a powerful moustache that takes shit from NO man!

by j.q. higgins on Apr 14, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Albers' two-seamer

That thing has big movement.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

oooh boy

Settle down, Matt.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Who is "Adams"?

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Apr 14, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

this is not good

1-0 Jays, two on and one out.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

nice play Melvin

That was about the slowest DP turn ever by Brian. But you can afford that when Frank Thomas is making his leisurely amble down to first.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Frank

only runs for food. What a tub of lard -- positively Ponson-esque. But he can hit, and I'll take that anyday.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he's not nearly as fat as Ponson

Frank's 6'5" and has huge arms and tree trunk legs. Ponson is just a fat fuck.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nice, B. Ro

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

alright Brian

Now it's time!

1. Brian steals second
2. Melvin pops out
3. Markakis walks
4. Millar GIDP

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

if only it was caught

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nice B. Ro again!

dying quail single

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

hey!

Base "hit" Mora!

Really pounded the hell out of that ball.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

yeah

hes put together some real poor ab's this year

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

but not that one

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nvm

RBI Kevbo.

Tie game.

KEVBO

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

wow go Millar

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Audrey's batting

I just wanted to call him Audrey

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

nice cut, Aubrey

Way to look like a rookie on a breaking ball. Dipshit.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

looks like Crowley's advice

is starting to sink in with Huff

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

HEY WHAT DO YOU KNOW

AUBREY GROUNDS INTO A DOUBLE PLAY

OK, I'm back to hating this motherfucker. And it has nothing at all to do with anything he's ever SAID. Why is he hitting fifth with Scott behind him?

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

huff was good like 5 years ago

so that's why he's there. also Mora has playoff experience

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wasn't that the big thing about Huff?

That he almost never hit into twin-killings?

Yeah, Scott and he need to flip. Then maybe Markakis will see some more pitches to hit.

by Dr Orpheus on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeesh

Walk on four straight to start the 2nd. Come on, Matt.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Shannon Stewart

I hate this guy. It's because video games have yet to acknowledge his decline. Shannon Stewart is to speed players as Aubrey Huff is to power hitters.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Remember when Shannon Stewart

was an MVP candidate on the Twins. I think it was '03. Just not very good.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Favorite recent Blue Jays quote

"This is a sinking ship" - Shea "Major Douche" Hillenbrand

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:36 PM EDT   0 recs

no

but that was pretty funny

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

3.99 is not half of 6.05, Gary.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Just to make sure everyone knows

Gregg Zaun is Rick Dempsey's nephew. I repeat: Gregg Zaun is Rick Dempsey's nephew.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:38 PM EDT   0 recs

I hate that

"He has a conservative strike zone, but it's consistent!"

Great. Consistently poor.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM EDT   0 recs

It would be nice

If the strike zone was 3 inches lower.

by dkdc on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM EDT   0 recs

I can understand someone having problems

with Larry Bowa, but this is the second time Rolen has had to be traded because he couldn't get along with a manager.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:47 PM EDT   0 recs

ugh

The whiff.

These two guys are throwing all over the place.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:47 PM EDT   0 recs

what the fuck?

Dave Trembley decided to not move Adam Jones out of the lineup today because he didn't want him to think he'd lost confidence in him, but he let Gary Thorne know that and Gary put it out on TV in front of God and everybody?

How ass backward is that?

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT   0 recs

bat him second, diamond dave

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i begin to doubt...

...Trembley's managerial acumen more and more with each passing day.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

glad you brought that up

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

LUIIIIIIIS

Runners on the corners with two down.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

ump is obviously a Jays fan

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

god

How many people at this game have ever seen a baseball game before? Very obvious pop flies to the outfield with two outs and they go, YEEEEEEEEEEoh.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM EDT   0 recs

that happens every time I'm AT the game

I hear people cheering around me every time a ball is hit in the f'ing air. I remember a BoSox game two years ago FULL of bandwagon Sawx fans who were sure, absolutely positively certain, that every time a Sox player hit a ball in the air, it was a home run.

by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 14, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not like they're sitting in crappy seats

I think I saw a homeles guy 3rd row back behind the plate. Lucky Sky King

by Bromo on Apr 14, 2008 7:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Bob Ehrlich's at it again

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wow Mora

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 14, 2008 8:01 PM EDT   0 recs

oh mother of God

More discussion between Buck and Gary about how you don't want your 3, 4, and 5 hitters walking.

"No! Not at all!"

Yes, it's terrible. Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig never walked. Mickey Mantle, either.

by SC on Apr 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Aubrey Huff

is what happens when your 3-4-5 hitters go up hacking.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Apr 14, 2008 8:08 PM EDT