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Kristen denounces "Pink Hat Nation" in Boston Globe

I just gave an interview to a writer from the Boston Globe who found my site and wanted to know my take on the pink hats and the people who wear them.

She asked me about how it becomes a larger feminist issue and the fundamental differences between something like my site and Barstool sports which is insulting and sexist and appeals to the lowest common denominator. And how that all funneled down to the pink hats and the assumption people made about women sports fans because of them.

Basically, I said "Sports apparel is not about fashion. It's about supporting your team. Just as you can't pick your team, you can't pick your team's colors. Do you think people in Cincinnati are thrilled to walk around dressed like candy corn because their football team does? Probably not. But that's the hand you're dealt."

And then I railed some against the Boston preponderance of pink hat fans and the fact that they're in my seat.

Anyway, zknower asked me to post the article when it's published and I definitely will, but in the meantime, I'm bracing for an onslaught of backlash and abuse from the pink hats.

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I wonder if we’d be considered insulting and sexist. I woke up today and realized that half of our game thread last night would have gotten us all banned from OH.

by SC on Apr 15, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i should apologize for any comments last night

i got a little out of hand, especially when it came to anita marks.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh

I thought the joke was more about playing with words.

by SC on Apr 15, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pffft

Takes more than that to offend me.

Though I have to agree with whoever said Jennifer Garner is smokin’. She is totally my celebrity girl crush.

"Yeah, I mean - Cal was much more important to me growing up than Jesus. And frankly, set just as good an example. Loyalty, discipline, hard work, humility, generosity, charity, AND 3,184 career hits. Is JESUS in the 3,000 hit club? I don't think so." - 2632

by Kristen on Apr 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be me

and thank you for agreeing.

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, totally

There is a reason 2632 and I watched all five seasons of Alias in an embarrassingly short time span. Basically, we want to be best friends with Jennifer Garner.

"Yeah, I mean - Cal was much more important to me growing up than Jesus. And frankly, set just as good an example. Loyalty, discipline, hard work, humility, generosity, charity, AND 3,184 career hits. Is JESUS in the 3,000 hit club? I don't think so." - 2632

by Kristen on Apr 15, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

she is decent

but I am into Cobie Smulders, who plays Robin on How I Met Your Mother.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus she'

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm, hit the wrong button

I meant to say “plus, she’s Canadian.”

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy hottness, yes.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jennifer Garner WAS smokin'.

Then she hooked up with Ben Asslick & his douchebaggery rubbed off on her.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Apr 15, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it looks like i am off the hook...

more offensive comments tonight then!

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

This is why I don’t like the fashion hats, pink or purple or whatever. Listen. When it comes to a night on the town, I can still be a little…gay. I said it. I like to coordinate. And look sharp. Say I want to wear my cap! How many clothes do you think I have that fit with the orange? Shit, man.

And the Lions used to wear Honolulu blue, which is the world’s worst color. But those are my boys. My boys don’t wear forest green! (Neither do I, really. My couch does.)

by SC on Apr 15, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is what I'm saying

I mean, I’m going to the Bruins game tonight. I look TERRIBLE in Bruins gold. Am I wearing it anyway? Fuckin’ right I am. It’s not about looking good. It’s about screaming for your team and supporting them visually as well as vocally.

Ask Greta. I even wear Orioles orange – which color I also look terrible in – at OPACY. BECAUSE THAT’S HOW IT SHOULD WORK.

"Yeah, I mean - Cal was much more important to me growing up than Jesus. And frankly, set just as good an example. Loyalty, discipline, hard work, humility, generosity, charity, AND 3,184 career hits. Is JESUS in the 3,000 hit club? I don't think so." - 2632

by Kristen on Apr 15, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

i am a straight man who always color coordinates his hats/team colors

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not gay.

You’re supposed to coordinate. American men just forgot about this because most of them drive around in cars where nobody can see what the hell they’re wearing. Inside a car has become our public space – and when you’re inside a car it matters not what you wear. Dudes dress in other countries – well, except for Canada, Australia & to a lesser extent Britain & Ireland – which are all overly influenced by us.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

see I agree

But I frequent what is essentially a roadhouse and if I wasn’t as big as I am, I’m sure one of the 50-year old bikers would like to take a run at me. Not realizing, of course, that they ALSO coordinate, just with different clothes. Sorry I don’t own chaps, friends! I like beer and ZZ Top. Fuck’s the problem?

by SC on Apr 15, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait up...

you DON’T own chaps? what kind of site is this, anyways? i thought you guys were normal!

"Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones."

by j.q. higgins on Apr 15, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll pass

I was wearing (non-white) t-shirts and jeans in the 80s while everyone else weas rockin’ pastel. That’s half the reason I LOVED Metallica in the mid-80s – dudes were wearing jeans and t-shirts and tennis shoes and playing loud and mean music.

The thought of “coordinating” my clothes? I’ve got too many other meaningful things in life to worry about.

If I have time, I’ll post about my Adult Garanimals theory of clothes coordination.

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adult Garanimals

So I got tired of my sister and my mom getting on me about my clothes. (Interestingly enough, my wife never did). So, as the HS teacher that I am, I decided a straight-forward answer: Adult Garanimals.

My slacks? Khaki or dark blue. My HS colors where I teach are blue and gold, so close enough. Any shirt I buy has to match both dark blue and khaki. Of course, most days, I look like I should be working at Best Buy, but every plan has its drawbacks…

No matter what pants and shirt I pull out of my closet, they fit. I could never understand my wife’s clothes – a blouse than ONLY goes with one or two pairs of pants? What’s the point?

Adult Garanimals, people. It’s an idea who’s time has come.

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See

these dudes are obviously not fashion plates, but they have a “look”. It’s an “anti-giving-a-shit” kinda look, but a look nonetheless. A lot of these suburban type dudes not only dress for shit, they also have no look whatsoever. You know who I’m talking about. Guys who think Dockers are okay to wear for anything besides painting the house.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree on that

Especially the last sentence.

And I never did like Kirk’s vests, by the way. James Hetfield all the way. Ripped jeans WERE cool, dammit!

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hear Hear

I don’t know when it became ok for straight men to look slovenly and for straight men who do look good to be called gay. Dress up, boys! It makes you look good and appropriate for a myriad of situations!

And not to turn this into a full on fashion thread, but straight boys have GOT to get a better going out outfit than jeans and an untucked button down shirt. I can’t swing a dead cat around the city on a Friday night without hitting four guys who look exactly the same. Mix it up!

by Stacey on Apr 15, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...

awful look.

Although I am into jeans, I don’t do the button down much—I mix it up between polo shirts, hoodies and sport jackets.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am SO glad I'm married right now...

geez, if I had to be in the singles market these days? Well, I’d be old AND lonely. Gotta make sure to kiss the wife when she comes home tonight…

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the words of Denis Miller

before he lost his mind, that is

“Men don’t give a fuck about clothes. Ours or yours.”

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Apr 15, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do

i spend longer than my girlfriend getting ready.

and i love shopping.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

preach it

My girlfriend is also a hair stylist. Which is probably not a coincidence.

by SC on Apr 15, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm siding with Dennis Miller on this one.

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong (;-)

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Apr 15, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sluggo!

Missed you last night.

by zknower on Apr 15, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

men drink beer!

Women like to drink wine!

Men like to work on cars! Women do not!

Men like to watch sports! Women don’t understand sports!!!

Men are like, fuck no! I won’t ask for directions! Women are all like, I am lost, I should ask this filling station attendant where to go.

Men think, like, yo. Yo, I’m going to leave the turlet seat up. And women go, GOD DAMN YOU.

Women are awful! Or are men? I don’t know! I’m going to go piss on the toilet seat and drive to an unfamiliar place.

by SC on Apr 15, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"turlet" seats are my favorite

Hee.

Also, I never ask for directions. Because I’m a stubborn ass.

"Yeah, I mean - Cal was much more important to me growing up than Jesus. And frankly, set just as good an example. Loyalty, discipline, hard work, humility, generosity, charity, AND 3,184 career hits. Is JESUS in the 3,000 hit club? I don't think so." - 2632

by Kristen on Apr 15, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't ask

because i always know where i am going

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I’m going to go piss on the toilet seat and drive to an unfamiliar place.”

Damn, you’re good.

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

There’s a time when the TV is on, and there’s a time when I listen to you. The 2 do not overlap. Now SHHH, The Godfather’s coming on.

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Apr 15, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What were the classic Three Differences Between Women & Men?

One was definitely

1. “A woman will never take a sandwich into the bathroom.” (I’ve always assumed that means you’ll do it on your way back to the TV from the kitchen, not, y’know, “Cool, time to get a tuna sub from the corner deli and bring it back to my john,” or something.)

2. “Women don’t like the 3 Stooges”—but I’m willing to bet that 2632 does, and possibly Kristen. And my friend Monique in Chevy Chase. And one of my sisters, but not the other one. Anyway, you get the idea, and there is something to it.

3. And this is where I crap out. Li’l help?

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Apr 16, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pink hats

“She asked me about how it becomes a larger feminist issue,”

Wearing pink hats becomes a larger feminist issue? Huh? I’m seen pink breast awareness stuff. Is the pink hats suppose to support that issue or something?

Personally, if people want to hear pink hats, more power to them.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Apr 15, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my opinion on a feminist issue

Generally speaking (and I’m not talking about the guys here because I find you all quite appropriate), it is assumed that women know less about sports or that it’s something they can’t or don’t wish to understand. By marketing pink hats and pink tiny tees for sports teams, it serves to reinforce the belief that girls love sparkly things and pink and that their love of or knowledge of a sport or team is secondary to that. It’s a negative stereotype and one that I come up against a lot. Unfortunately with the amount of pink hats and woo girls roaming the earth, it’s a tough battle.

And I don’t think there is anything wrong with loving pink or sparkles (I happen to enjoy them both), but there is a time and a place for that, and that place is not the ballpark, because being a sports fan is about wearing their colors proudly despite the fact that I look like a traffic cone in orange.

by Stacey on Apr 15, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, exactly

And you’re already fighting an uphill battle as a female sports fan trying to be taken seriously as it is.

But, yes, like Stacey said, present company excluded.

"Yeah, I mean - Cal was much more important to me growing up than Jesus. And frankly, set just as good an example. Loyalty, discipline, hard work, humility, generosity, charity, AND 3,184 career hits. Is JESUS in the 3,000 hit club? I don't think so." - 2632

by Kristen on Apr 15, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotcha

Pink hats reinforce female stereotypes.

What about dudes who pink hats? They could be fighting restrictive male stereotypes.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Apr 15, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same principle

Dudes who want to wear pink on their own time? Good for them. I happen to think a man can look quite sharp in a pink dress shirt and the right tie. But on game days, you wear your teams colors.

by Stacey on Apr 15, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have some pink tees

is that ok?

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as you look good in pink.

And don’t pop your collar.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 15, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only dbags

pop their collars

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 15, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was back "in"

for about 3 months at my HS last year. Thank God it didn’t last…

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know any, but I'd disapprove of that, in the same way I don't like the all black or brown etc hats

I think they should be about team pride, not fashion. But I wouldn’t be as offended as I am by the girly shit.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 15, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That came up

Actually, because I acknowledged that if the pink hats, etc. were being sold to raise money for breast cancer research, I would have no issue with it at all. But they’re not.

Likewise, if the players wore pink hats on Mother’s Day (instead of just using pink bats), I’d shut up about it. But as it stands, it’s just a marketing thing. And I think it’s unnecessary.

"Yeah, I mean - Cal was much more important to me growing up than Jesus. And frankly, set just as good an example. Loyalty, discipline, hard work, humility, generosity, charity, AND 3,184 career hits. Is JESUS in the 3,000 hit club? I don't think so." - 2632

by Kristen on Apr 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

re:

This pink hat thing started began precisely as the marketing machines wanted. It’s not just the Red Sox, nor was it only baseball. There was a concerted effort to market to women. It was another avenue for money,and it seemed to work.

Now “Pink Hat” has come to encompass the ignoramus fan who jumps on the bandwagon. It’s like the “wine and cheese” crowd Baltimore fans used to complain about when casual fans actually went to OPACY. The Red Sox became synonymous with “Pink Hat” because they were successful and had a huge bandwagon appear “overnight”, many wearing the pink hats. Enough of these fans, plenty of which don’t wear pink hats, are obnoxious assholes and convey a negative image of the whole.

I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a story of encountering Red Sox clad assholes in Baltimore. They are the minority, but they are who everyone remembers. If you can get rid of them, you’ll do us all a service.

by drj on Apr 15, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The marketing angle is a tough one

because I totally get why they did it and, like you said, it seemed to work. But it annoys me that women need an entire subset of “girly-colored” athletic apparel just because they’re women. If they want to make things in women’s sizes and cuts, they absolutely should. Most women I know – self-included – look ridiculous in men’s jerseys. But that’s different because that would be marketing to women and making clothes that fit them while acknowledging that the team colors or whatever don’t need to change to include them.

And that brings us to the bandwagon fans. While I know that not all Sox fans are assholes, I also know that not all people who wear pink hats are bleacher bimbos. But it is a stereotype that certainly has a fair amount of truth to it.

If I hear one more pink-hatted idiot ask her boyfriend if Pedro is pitching…

"Yeah, I mean - Cal was much more important to me growing up than Jesus. And frankly, set just as good an example. Loyalty, discipline, hard work, humility, generosity, charity, AND 3,184 career hits. Is JESUS in the 3,000 hit club? I don't think so." - 2632

by Kristen on Apr 15, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alyssa Milano

was on the radio a year or so ago talking about how retarded the pink apparel phenomenon is - PINK MEANS IT’S A GIRL - and evidently started a line of MLB-sponsored women’s clothes that are for women in ways other than being pink.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Apr 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For your shopping convenience...

MLB.com touch stuff

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2827003

HAHA

That’s hardly a MLB shirt… I guess Target wouldn’t take her clothing line?

by Y Not on Apr 15, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate the effort by Alyssa

But I can’t really imagine actual ladies at the ballpark in that stuff. Although if we all had Alyssa’s rack, I guess maybe it’d be a different story.

by Stacey on Apr 15, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that dress, top row, second to the left, is fugly. Same with the leather jacket.

The rest of the stuff really looks plain. It looks like stuff you could find at Target or Old Navy except with a MLB logo slapped on it.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Apr 15, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pink hats are fine

if they make her happy while she’s in the kitchen

by Y Not on Apr 15, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While we're on the topic of men's fashion....

Searching for the wort outfit from the IM catalog?

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me at chess for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 15, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOLZ!!!11!!!!

Why the Hell Not?

by BrianS on Apr 15, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dudes

should not wear sandals.

unless they’re going to the shore.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 16, 2008 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strongly disagree

Sandals rock. Not that guy’s sandals, but sandals in general.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 16, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sandals done right

do rock. I don’t wear them, but the kids do. We’ve actually given up on open-toed shoes as part of the dress code in school, so half the kids walk around in sandals as soon as it hits 45 degrees outside.

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 16, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not cool at all

all dudes have gross feet, and especially in cities, no one wants to see dirty, gross feet

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 16, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just take care of your feet

and the sandals will be fine (and I mean “your” rhetorically, not your feet specifically). Plus, dressing shouldn’t be about other people. That’s a common mistake. The way you dress should be about you, about what you feel good in, about what you like to see on yourself.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 16, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm conflicted

Part of me says, “Screw it, I’m lazy and I don’t care.”

The other part of me says, “Yeah, but I don’t have to look at me all day, do I?”

The conflicts in life are just insurmountable somedays, I tell ya…

"I win! I think I'm better at chess than you, Dad." - My 7 year old, after he beat me for the first (and not last) time.

by duck on Apr 16, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surprised I beat you to this one

“God created closed-toed shoes for a REASON! If your toe nails are 3 different colours, none of them nail polish, stay away from the flip-flops!”

- J. Foxworthy

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Apr 16, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

got a feeling

you’re not the type to retire to florida

by Y Not on Apr 16, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Florida

and I visit 4-5x/year, and I do wear sandals to the shore. Anywhere I else, I keep on my sneakers. I am not a hippy.

"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Apr 16, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

General Thumbs-ups

Kristen: You couldn’t be righter on-er: People, your team’s colors are, y’know, your team’s effing colors. Live with it. Marketing-shmarketing, capitalism-shmapitalism, overexuberant investor-driven Bush-fueled mortgage-scandal-preciptated recession, shmoverexuberant…y’know, thing.

We had a bit of a yak on this last season; luckily for you, I don’t know how to access previous posts (so no Daniel Song either) or I’d inflict that one on you.

JohnnyPops: Good point re American males living/dressing/existing in car space . Also: Russian males dress in the dark (long winter here), whatever goes on works. If their wives know anything, they’re not telling. In fairness, though, the business class here is getting aound (Europe and the world) and bringing back more and more metro-ish stuff.

duck: Adult Garanimals: inspired! Thx also for reposting the ice-hole Sawx kid, who is becoming my Boston Jeffrey Maier.

SC: Piss on the turlet seat—>drive to Unfamiliarland. LOL, a minor classic.

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Apr 16, 2008 2:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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