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Tampa Bay Rays @ Baltimore Orioles


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Matt Garza, RH (5-7, 3.69/1.54) v. Daniel Cabrera, RH (9-18, 5.55/1.54)

I have no problem saying that Garza was my favorite pitching prospect in all of baseball when he was with the Twins, and him being part of the Big Three in Tampa Bay scares the bejesus out of me. Those guys could dominate the division for a long, long time. And I think Garza has the goods to be THE ace of the bunch.

This is Cabrera's fifth full year as part of the Orioles rotation. He's just a total pain, and I expect nothing anymore. I don't expect him to ever be any good. Why bother? His only consistency is being a big letdown. If you want to be like our own Dr. Enloe and continue to go insane during every Cabrera start, be my guest.

How about an over/under on walks for Cabrera starts? We'll do five -- make it 5.5.

RAYS STARTING LINEUP

  1. Akinori Iwamura, 2B
  2. Carl Crawford, LF
  3. Carlos Pena, 1B
  4. B.J. Upton, CF
  5. Cliff Floyd, DH
  6. Willie Aybar, 3B
  7. Dioner Navarro, C
  8. Nathan Haynes, RF
  9. Jason Bartlett, SS

ORIOLES STARTING LINEUP

  1. Brian Roberts, 2B
  2. Melvin Mora, 3B
  3. Nick Markakis, RF
  4. Kevin Millar, 1B
  5. Aubrey Huff, DH
  6. Luke Scott, LF
  7. Ramon Hernandez, C
  8. Adam Jones, CF
  9. Luis Hernandez, SS

FUN STATS

  • Daniel Cabrera is 6-0, 3.04/1.38 in 11 career starts against the Rays.
  • Aubrey Huff hit 15 home runs in 2007; seven of them came against Tampa Bay (.365/.429/.762).
  • Carlos Pena hit .316/.446/.667 with six homers against the Birds in 2007.
  • Veteran Rays reliever Troy Percival historically stinks against the O's: 5.86 ERA and 1.51 WHIP in 43 career innings against Baltimore.

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I should just change my username.

I'll say 4 BBs for the home opener. 6 Ks. and Danny boy notches the first Orioles W of the year.

What happened to the whole "box score and game time appears in the game thread" thing? Is there a bug or something?

by zknower on Apr 2, 2008 5:17 PM EDT   0 recs

re:

It's something they're working on.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm on board with you Z

This is Dannys year..........to kill somebody with a wild pitch.

by BENNY BIRDMAN on Apr 2, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

BP's PECOTA

predicts Danny will lead O's pitchers in VORP this season. And that the O's will have the wost pitching in the majors.

Ahhh, fun.

by zmb on Apr 2, 2008 5:26 PM EDT   0 recs

well

Yeah. But PECOTA isn't geared toward predicting breakout seasons for anyone. It's geared for being sensible.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 5:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I say under

TB has historically helped out O's pitching.

"When you are in with the Lord there's just one reward, and they'd just as soon make it come true." -REK

by BPinOK on Apr 2, 2008 5:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Under

These dudes are going to get smoked by the heat. Except for Carlos Pena, who'll be going deep tonight.

by Jonny Pops on Apr 2, 2008 6:07 PM EDT   0 recs

is the line 5.5 or 4.5?

I would say he pitches 7 innings and walks 5. Gotta do that fraction bit in the over/under.

by drj on Apr 2, 2008 6:19 PM EDT   0 recs

So is the 5 for the whole game

or just the first 3 innings?

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 6:23 PM EDT   0 recs

D-CABS

8 IP
6 H
8 K
4 BB
3 ER
2 HBP

by BENNY BIRDMAN on Apr 2, 2008 6:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Over

I'd say 6 walks. These Rays are better than they were in recent years. Look what happened to Guthrie.

by wscott on Apr 2, 2008 6:24 PM EDT   0 recs

How about over under on O's avg pitches per AB?

We'll need to guess that one day. Cabrera walks will be fine for tonight.

by drj on Apr 2, 2008 6:49 PM EDT   0 recs

4.2

The Crow has them a hackin' away...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mlb tv

Does anyone have an mlb.tv account they're willing to share?

by Dr Orpheus on Apr 2, 2008 6:53 PM EDT   0 recs

mlb fixed their security settings

so you can't do that anymore.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn

Also...damn.

by Dr Orpheus on Apr 2, 2008 7:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

get him back to his early mechanics?

When he had an 89-to-76 BB-to-K?

Yeah, Jim, just imagine being a pitching coach getting to work with Daniel Cabrera. Just imagine how fun it was for Miller and Mazzone.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Can't recall who the quote was atributed to

Or even if it mentioned him by name. Some pitching coach said "he's the kind of guy who gets you fired".

by drj on Apr 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The way I heard it has always been

YOUR potential is going to get ME fired!

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

All together now...

"I can get 9 truck drivers in here to try hard!" - Tommy Lasorda

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

God

The Yard is absolutely empty. You can hear every single fan.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:12 PM EDT   0 recs

last year

they played the Rays as their 2nd home game and it was their lowest attendance ever. The game after that was even lower attendance. It's going to get ugly this year.

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

heh

I was just thinking about that. Before it's all over there are going to be three disgruntled fans left in the outfield, But they won't even have a drum.

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think that's sort of us

Just more than three of us here.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Looking at Cabrera makes me feel angry

I can't quite figure out why. I mean, he is who he is.

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

I could give you a few reasons why.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I see all that potential

and think to myself, Damn, what would I give to be 6'5', throw 97 mph and be a ML starter?

And for whatever reason, Danny can't put that talent together. It doesn't seem to be lack of effort.

Oh shit, he's pacing over a bad call already. Here it comes...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, 6'9"

The only thing I do give him is that he started playing ball way late in life. He was going to be a basketball player.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn, that's right, he's a foot taller than I am

And there's the meltdown I unfortunately predicted after not getting the strike call...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we both saw that one coming

Fuck, who didn't?

Fuckin' Cabrera.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

there's No. 1

B.J. Upton walks after Cabrera totally loses him. Runners on first and second, let's see if Danny implodes.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

MASN showed

a 1-2 count the entire time Upton was up to bat. Get it together, boys!

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

fuck off Cabrera

Dong Cliff Floyd.

Jesus Christ.

THIS IS BIRDLAND

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT   0 recs

oh man. fucking orioles

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT   0 recs

you should find some keyboard shortcut for that phrase.

you're gonna need it.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OM, FO?

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OMFO

No one loves punctuation more than I do, but we're going to be saying that too much to bother with punctuation.

by BrianS on Apr 2, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

'Tis true

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Daniel Cabrera Experience is here.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT   0 recs

THE TIME IS NOW. THE PLACE IS NOW.

THIS IS BIRDLAND, MOTHERFUCKER

I'm all about losing this season, I'm just sick of doing it because of Daniel goddamned Cabrera.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Where are those shot glassess...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Before the 5th inning

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Those left field seats behind Luke Scott are my favorite place to sit

there are about 8 people there tonight

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

When do the Caps play again?

Jeez, it's 7:18, and I'm already ready to give up on this game.

Damn, it's gonna be a LONG year with our starters...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

I'll be the first today...

Damn, auto-updating the comments is SWEET!

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

This is not good

Not good I tell you.

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Welcome back

First post I've seen from you on the new board

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

alright, Wired Wednesday!

Put a mic on Walker again. Damn thang's HOT.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

That might have been

the coolest thing about last year.

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Matt Garza is on my fantasy team.

woo to me!

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Brian Roberts loves us and wants us to be happy.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

fucking crowley. imparting his GENIUS.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

see

I don't even think he thinks he's all that smart. It's clear to the rest of us.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yay Brian!

Way to make me feel better, young man.

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT   0 recs

BRIAN BOB

DOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

DOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

You're gonna make me lonesome when ya go.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

B-Rob

Damn, I'm gonna miss you...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

As Fred said...

On Opening Day, it didn't seem the ball was carrying. Today, it seems the ball has legs...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Way to bring that pitch avg/batter down, MelMo

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dude, melmo.

it's only day 2. sack up.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe for the next two years

the O's should tarp off the upper deck like the A's did so that people are forced to sit a bit closer together

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

too bad bowie games aren't televised.

they'd be more interesting.

except for markickass, and pulling for jones and guthrie, there is no reason to watch this team.

i'm rooting for 0-22 and some other 98 Rock DJ staying on air for the duration.

by drj on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Are they still on teh air?

Lost interest after Lopez got sick for the last time...

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

welp

We got a run in the first inning.

Let's see if we can scratch one out over the next eight this time.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

ya gotta be here!

THIS IS BIRDLAND.

Excitement! Food! Memories! ...

...

Not so much the team.

THIS IS BIRDLAND.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:27 PM EDT   0 recs

will it be fun or painful

to go see Bedard on Sunday? I'm having trouble deciding.

Formerly known as Javylicious.

by Stacey on Apr 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

neither

I hope we shell him.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Apr 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We're gonna get bent over and humiliated by our Candadian friend.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey guys, buck up.

No matter what happens....Jay Gibbons is gone.

In fact, Kristen thinks that should be the new slogan. "The Orioles! Jay Gibbons doesn't play here anymore!!'

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on Apr 2, 2008 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

No matter the score....

the fact Jay Gibbons isn't here is like a little ray of sunshine.

"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge

by duck on Apr 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs