Gameday Thread: Mariners (2-3) @ O's (3-1)
by Scott Christ on Apr 6, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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PrintSeattle Mariners at Baltimore Orioles, Apr 6, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
Felix Hernandez, RH (0-0, 0.00/1.14) v. Jeremy Guthrie, RH (0-1, 8.44/1.88)
Game time is 1:35 on MASN2.
The STATS preview says, "A sudden injury to Erik Bedard cost him the first chance to face his old teammates, but the Seattle Mariners are not expecting to skip a beat."
Yes. A "sudden injury" -- how convenient. And if the Mariners plan not to skip any of the beats they've shown in the last two games, that'd be fine by me.
King Felix put up a 3.92 ERA and 1.38 WHIP at age 21 last season, but wasn't the Mariners ace in 2007 because Miguel Batista won 16 games. Ask Jim Palmer, who was not the ace of the 1970 Orioles, because McNally and Cuellar won 24 games to his 20.
Guthrie's location was iffy in his first start, the main culprit to a rocky beginning of his tenure as the ace of the O's. I'm really not worried about Guts; he looked fine, just a little off at times. He left one up to Eric Hinske and it got bombed. It happens. He threw 5 1/3 innings in that start, making it the second-deepest start among the four Oriole starters we've seen thus far. Trachsel wins the prize with 5 2/3.
With the way the pen's being beaten on so far -- and I should be fair, the starters are the first to blame, but I still think Trembley is a little wacky so far -- we need a good start from Guthrie today. Hopefully he can turn in 6+ and keep us in the game.
MARINERS STARTING LINEUP
- Ichiro, RF
- Jose Lopez, 2B
- Raul Ibanez, LF
- Richie Sexson, 1B
- Adrian Beltre, 3B
- Brad Wilkerson, RF
- Jose Vidro, DH
- Jamie Burke, C
- Yuniesky Betancourt, SS
ORIOLES STARTING LINEUP
- Brian Roberts, 2B
- Melvin Mora, 3B
- Nick Markakis, RF
- Kevin Millar, 1B
- Aubrey Huff, DH
- Luke Scott, LF
- Jay Payton, CF
- Guillermo Quiroz, C
- Luis Hernandez, SS
FUN STATS
- Guthrie hasn't been so successful at Camden Yards, going just 2-6 overall with a 4.40 ERA. But his peripherals are all solid. The record is more reflective of his, you know, team.
- In his young career, Nick Markakis has just one homer against the Mariners, but he's hit .321/.365/.449.
- In HIS young career, Felix Hernandez is hit hard by the O's: 5.60/1.78 with a .347 BAA. And he's 3-2.
- And his moderately young career, Mariners shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt is 30-for-85 (.353) against Baltimore.
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We need a good outing from Guthrie today..
our bullpen shouldn't pitch 4+IP per game... that pretty much exposes them.
Go O's!
good matchups today
Santana v. Smoltz
Beckett v. Halladay
Lowe v. Young
Shields v. Wang
...Lannan v. Lohse
payton over jones in CF today
Payton really needs to do something in order for us to like him.
Even then, it's doubtful
There's just something about Jay Payton that totally rubs me the wrong way. Maybe because he's not particularly good at ANYTHING, and yet he's somehow become a regular major leaguer. While everyone here was putting their hate on Jay Gibbons (deservedly due to his performance), I couldn't put in the same ire towards him that I have for the other Jay. At least Gibbons could hit, once upon a time, albeit via the magic of pharmaceuticals.
dont forget
the 17 ER in those few innings
by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, kevbo.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
wow
Our 7-8-9 hitters must leave King Felix messing his pants. Most teams in the NL have a better 7-8-9 than us today.
You said it.
48 already.. looks like another long day for the bullpen coming up.
I'm Trying to Watch..
the O's game and Hornets game at the same time. I've got the O's on my computer and the Hornets on my TV.
Geaux Eaux's
As Weaver used to say
If you're going to hit into a double play, just strike out please.
what the shit
are ichiro and millar possibly talking about?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
nice DP
Guthrie really needs to be able to work deep into this, but at the same time you can't press him TOO much.
Bierd is available, I'd guess.
holy fuck
show brob and sexon standing next to each other again.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
wow, a randy myers reference
how many more times this year are we gonna hear about our closer from 11 years ago and his assorted wackiness?
holy shit
did the bar just flash that Guthrie has thrown 86 pitches? at the top of the 4th. just great. I hope Bierd and Safarte have 4 innings in them today.
little better
but not terribly. still too many.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
he could if he faced Jay Gibbons
As we all know, you can get Gibby to 3-2 and he will refuse that fourth ball. By God, the man has scruples.
I could play along and say yes..
but I was actually referring to Guthrie's previous inning...
Coincidence that Hernandez had a 7-pitch inning right after I said that
The approach to this game
has Crowley's gin-soaked fingerprints all over it. Hack away, guys. Don't make him work. Don't try to get to the bullpen. Just keep swinging.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 6, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
However.. it also looks like Hernandez has his game on..
and maybe that just means we'll be 0-2 before we're looking to hit
he does
But man, at some point you gotta just try to wear the brother out. I mean all props to King Felix for pitching well, but he's not getting much resistance.
I hope a pigeon flies by.. and squirts Felix Hernandez in the eye.
It's our only hope.
Felix Hernandez (a winner) vs. Luis Hernandez. (...)
Round 2. Fight!
I'm as underwhelmed by this O's offense as I am
by the venue I'm watching it through, MLB.TV's, um, spectacular new 1.2M thingy. I swear the definition doesn't look as sharp as last year's 800K. On the other hand, I'm probably not as sharp as I was last year either.
Oops, gotta go: a leadoff BB, i.e. a major rally...
Forget it, Jake. It's Birdland.
I think the offense is doing well
With what they have so far. If they could keep it going like this all year this won't be the worst team in baseball haha
Thats why I said could :P
But it doesn't hurt to be a little optimistic.
Jesus Christ..
Hernandez changes speeds from 97 mph to 86 mph back to 96 mph ... fastballs, curveballs, sliders, splitters...
That inning was probably
our best chance to score some runs. Also, Hernandez is really, really good.
Apparently the offense still hates Guthrie
At least we're not hitting against a good pitcher as opposed to Mr. Career AAAA. Yay ?
HELL YEAH GUTS!
Great job finishing strong, man. And to think, I doubted the guy.
Randor Bierd joins Yulievsky Betancourt on today's
Strange First Name squad.
Forget it, Jake. It's Birdland.
He's Cuban, so there's a possible
connection, sure. On the other hand, I always *assumed* that Vladimir Guererro's first name was a direct result of that kind of link-- which it isn't, it turns out...
Forget it, Jake. It's Birdland.
VG is Dominican, not Cuban-- though maybe his parents
admired Lenin or something...
Forget it, Jake. It's Birdland.
It's Yunievsky isn't it?
It's quite a popular first name amongst Latin American commies. Any idea why, Titov?
No luck Googling Yunievsky in Latin letters -- the Mariners
site and others just give you a pronunciation guide without explaining where the name came from --so I tried Cyrillic, which *did* give 6 results (i.e. uses of the name, not Seattle shortstops).
It's a Polish name, apparently. There's a reference to a Stanislav Yunievsky in connection with a monument going up somewhere to the late Pope. That said, Betancourt's name still *could* be the result of a Cuban-Soviet connection: plenty of Soviets (and some ethnic Russians) had/have Polish names, including the first chief of the Soviet secret police, Felix Dzerzhinsky.
Glad we cleared *that* up, huh? Somebody'll have to ask Fred "Socrates" Manfra, I guess.
Forget it, Jake. It's Birdland.
no.
her show sucks and she ain't really much to look at.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 6, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I just get annoyed by all that
Spice Girls "Girl Power!" shit. I'm not at all against broads talkin' sports, but can't they just stop trying to prove they don't throw like girls? Do they all have to be "sassy"? It's so bad morning radio show-ish.
I do think she's attractive.
he started in the minors
Control was his big problem. They turned him into a reliever in 2007 in Nasvhille (Milwaukee AAA) but then the Brewers gave up. Hey, works for me. He's got the goods as a relief pitcher.
we got some nice arms in that pen
Alberts, Bierd, Safarte and Sherril have all been pretty impressive so far.
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
plus, The Country Boys
It's a group with legit talent, from good arms to crap arms that do their jobs.
who's closing for the M's?
My not playing fantasy baseball means I don't keep up with this shit like I used to.
bullpen does great again!
Great job pitching today overall.. that's reassuring, even though we're not hitting. But that's okay.
God yes
He's better than Payton. He's got more power than Payton. He doesn't suck like Payton. He's not Payton.
and as far as "situation" goes
If this dude can't go up there and pinch-hit for this team in April, when do we take the kid gloves off?
pinch hitting is a sub-game of baseball
some guys excel in it, others don't...
i'd rather have someone who's had 3 at bats today go in there and try it then a rookie - in my opinion.
i think we're damned either way
see, yeah
The chance of a big hit is so low that why not send the guy who might turn on one up there BASE HIT!!!!!
Wow!
What a time to turn the game on!
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
Birdland!
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
Isn't this a time to put Moore in???
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
My bad
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he already PH
ain't nobody left on the bench
by KenDixonFanClub on Apr 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
YEEEEAAAAHHH!!!!
Motherfuckers!!!
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
Ichiro..
a little respect... please?
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
THAT"S RIGHT!!!
MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
in play runs scored
holy shit no way luis did it?@!
Are you fucking kidding me???
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
Effing A
LOUUIEEEE.
I've been doing my taxes with the game on. Just got done to really watch the ninth, expecting them to go quietly.
Soooo... Dave did all the right moves, didn't he?
Gloating, sorry.
That was an awesome end
Made my day. Now i can do homework in a good mood
This has to be a conspiracy!
Today is the last day of the free MLB Extra Innings preview. They are doing this just so I end up ordering.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
Crap.
I really need to get a 2nd TV. we're watching the Phils get pounded 8-3 and I had to follow this on gamecast.
Hot Damn!
This is why I love baseball!
"It's a long season and you gotta trust. I've tried 'em all, I really have, and the only church that truly feeds the soul, day in, day out, is the Church of Baseball."--Bull Durham
well..
Luke Scott winning player of the game doesn't seem so ridiculous now
It's midnight in Moscow.Do you know where your team is?
Yes. First place.
Forget it, Jake. It's Birdland.
Sit down, Alex Cintron!
Little Luis just guaranteed himself at least two more weeks of starting at SS.
And Payton may actually get more playing time.
Oh by, what a season so far!
So....
Anyone think Felix coulda gone 1 more inning?
Thanks, Mariners.
And thanks Nick, Jay, and Luis.
they probably asked Sammy P.
and he said, I'd pull him, but do whatever you think is right.
by typozzz on Apr 6, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HOLY SHIT
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
With the way Scott is playing
there's going to be a permanent Payton ass print on the bench.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
that post is
old mutual
"If you're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson
BIRDLAND, MOTHERFUCKERS.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
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