Diamond Dave considering 13th pitcher
by Scott Christ on Apr 8, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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With his team in the midst of a stretch of 37 games in 38 days, Orioles manager Dave Trembley acknowledged that he's still considering adding a 13th pitcher to his roster and demoting a position player.
"I thought about it in spring training and I'm still thinking about it now because I don't want to overburden the guys in the bullpen," Trembley said. "Really, that question will be answered depending on how your starting pitchers do."
Trembley said that as long as two or three starters are consistently getting deep into games, he won't have to make any changes. And even if he does, he expects it to be temporary.
Who would he send down? Fahey? What if you need to pinch-hit for Luis? Who plays short then? Moore? That guy is flexible as a lefty bat that can play three positions -- maybe the OF, too. Does he risk fielding Moore at shortstop?
I don't like 13 pitchers, period. There should be no reason to need an eighth reliever. Seven guys should be plenty, particularly when you have two decent long men like Bierd and Albers.
I like this idea about as much as adding a third catcher, though to be fair having one effective catcher would be nice right now. Razor is ice cold and Quiroz is Quiroz.
Hopefully the starters respond and this won't be "necessary."
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The Freshmaker
Can't they just send Cabrera down to Triple-A at some point when his ERA reaches the triple digits and replace him with the best throwing starter down there? Who needs 13 pitchers on the big league roster when you can send a guy down when he's crappy and replace him with some freshness. Like Mentos. Wait...
not to beat a dead horse
but even as crappy as he's been this year, it would be ridiculous to send down cabrera at this point. he pitched 6 innings the other day and gave up 4 runs.
that, whether you like it or not, is certainly good enough to be a 4th or 5th starter. his line over the last five innings was actually good. and the guy throws 100 pitches without batting an eye.
so to replace him with a rook who doesn't have his longevity or experience would not exactly be a lock for helping the bullpen.
this is not my usual pollyanna speech where I tell you he's going to be solid by midseason (though I stand by that prediction). this is to say that now, right now, with his numbers where they are, he is one of the best five pitchers on the team.
do you not remember what happened to liz and olson when they came up last year? here's a hint: they both sucked.
the thing w/ cabrera...
given his need to get regular work and ability to be the staff pack mule, you gotta figure he's not really going lower than 4.
by j.q. higgins on Apr 8, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm OK
with him being a 4th starter. We just need to give up on the notion he's ever gonna be anything MORE than a 4th starter.
"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major League
just terrible
I hate this idea too, Trembly usually only uses bradford and walker anyways, but we have plenty of long-relief options. Although we have had 3 decent outings in a row in terms of innings pitched so maybe he will forget about this idea.
seems ridiculous
Can't Sarfate handle several innings too.
Plus, we have Aquino, and clearly no desire to use him. W e should send him down to AAA and pick up a pitcher to replace him long before we get rid of a position player.
If Moore can play outfield, I suppose we can move Payton down, but still.
Sarfate
I'd think he could, given his history starting in the minors, but maybe the way he pitches in relief (balls out on his fastball) turns the tables. Chris Ray was a minor league starter, too.
If Sherrill isn't AL Player of the Week
then the league can just eat his flat hat.
I can see the logic behind the move..
Our starters are not very good, and our bullpen will most likely be worked hard all year. Having another arm in the mix of the bullpen will help a little, not a lot. If the starting pitching collapses, the relievers will be exposed, and we'll have another trainwreck of a season.
I hope I'm wrong...
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