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O's 7, Royals 4: I love KC!

I've had the great pleasure of listening to the Royals broadcasts in the last two nights. First of all, it's fun to listen to a team's commentators talk about their boys not winning against the Birds since 2006.

Ryan_lefebvre_medium Frank_white_medium But my favorite thing about the Royals broadcasts are the commentators themselves, play-by-play man Ryan Lefebvre (right, son of Jim Lefebvre) and color commentator Frank White (left), Royals Hall of Famer.

The two of them are gold. Not only are they terribly unfamiliar with the Orioles and bat-dung crazy, but they're also seriously easy to listen to and seem like a couple of nice damned guys.

A quality start to Frank White is a complete game. Denny Leonard threw twenty complete games. Now that's quality. White also claimed to have been following Brian Roberts since his first day in the Major Leagues, thinking of him like he does Marcus Giles (?), a small stature guy with pop in his bat. White would be the world's only person who saw pop in the bat of Brian Roberts prior to 2005.

Lefebvre spent an entire, long half-inning talking to some dude from American Idol who's from the area. I'm not even being elitist. He seemed like a nice kid, genuinely excited to be there (White said he used to work at the park when he was a child), and he threw out a nice first pitch. Lefebvre and this dude just went on and on and on while a game was happening. Tremendous, totally uninteresting stuff. Lefebvre then decided that this American Idol dude was a good human being. Just had a feeling. Freddie Bynum hits a double, Melvin Mora hits a two-run homer, they talk about this dude going to the mall.

But the best part of that segment was Lefebvre recalling another reality TV star at the park who threw out a terrible first pitch and was booed off the field. "It was, uh...I don't remember his name. Anyway..." Must've made that kid feel good about his future.

Lefebvre later wanted to invent a new statistic, the Quality At-Bat. After tinkering with it out loud, he settled on this: the hitter is down in the count at some point, he sees eight pitches or more, and he hits it hard somewhere. Doesn't matter if he gets a hit. Also, walks are out of the question for the Quality At-Bat. Fantastic.

Jose Guillen appeared to have hurt himself a little bit running to first base later in the game, and Frank White said he had a "nice grimace" on in the dugout. Lefebvre took issue with the idea of a "nice grimace." This followed (I don't have exact quotes here, but this is very close):

Lefebvre: "Nice grimace. That's like jumbo shrimp. Those two don't go together! Or, uh, slight groin injury."

White: "Or tweaked hamstring."

Moments later, White recalled a young Jay Payton, as he and Lefebvre talked about Payton coming out of Georgia Tech at the same time as Nomar Garciaparra and Jason Varitek, and some expected him to be the prize of the bunch.

"Jay Payton had great speed when he came out (of Georgia Tech). Playing center field for the Red Sox."

Payton, of course, did play for the Red Sox, at age 32, in his eighth Major League season. In total, Payton (who had really lost his speed to injuries well before that) played 16 games in center field for the Red Sox. He was a member of the 2000 Mets team that went to the World Series, and had played for three other teams (Mets, Rockies, Padres) by the time he got to Boston.

Just all-around tremendous stuff. I love you, Ryan and Frank. Never change. Continue to think that Melvin Mora is a great player and that Daniel Cabrera throws 98-99 with his fastball. It's OK to be stuck in 2004.

A few quick talking points about the game:

  • Trachsel didn't kill us.
  • The bullpen nearly did through every pitcher brought in.
  • Freddie Bynum is quickly winning me over.
  • Nick Markakis is finding his stroke again.
  • Brian Roberts is not.
  • Aubrey Huff! DONG.
  • Melvin Mora! DONG.
  • Even Kevbo had a couple hits.
  • The Royals are still terrible.

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Kansas City really is the jewel of the plains

Doesn’t Freddie Bynum look like Troy Tulowitzki next to the assholes we already have playing short. I didn’t see much of the game, but it is great to see B-Rob extending pitchers during at bats again and hitting liners (thats a quality at bat right, Frank White?)

I really don’t want to hear anybody complaining about Gary Thorne and Jim Palmer as long as there are guys like this around. Everybody knows local broadcasts have the potential to be a million times better broadcasts than national broadcasts, but they also have the potential to be absolute dreck. I mean, jesus, Frank White: you want to reward hitters for being down in the count. I mean, c’mon! Sad part is, I’d probably still take Frank White, unheard, over Rick Dempsey.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on May 10, 2008 3:29 AM EDT   0 recs

I genuinely like them

They’re mad, but a very enjoyable mad.

by SC on May 10, 2008 4:45 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hey, i'll give it to him

he didn’t suck, apparently

he still will

by pipkin on May 10, 2008 4:45 AM EDT   0 recs

Cabrera's complete game helped us win this game

Danny kept the bullpen rested for an extra day. Tremblay could have kept running bodies out of the pen if he had to, because of it. Sherrill is quickly becoming Don “Full Pack ” Stanhouse, The Sequel. Let’s bring the tying run to the plate and see what happens…weeeeeeeee.

by Lothar on May 10, 2008 9:27 AM EDT   0 recs

I still want

Mel Proctor and John Lowenstein back. Oh, Brother Lo, where have you gone?

"Terrible what passes for a ninja these days..." -Pops Racer

by duck on May 10, 2008 2:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Mel Proctor did a damn fine job announcing for the Nationals in their inaugural year

He just had the unfortune of being paired with an awful color commentator in Ron Darling. The Nationals, for some reason got rid of both.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on May 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Brother Lo

was the BESTEST color guy EVER!
He made me crack up – and knew the game – and related to the “joe six pack” fan in all of us.
What did ever happen to him?

There's no crying in baseball

by elktonfan on May 10, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

relating to the "Joe Six Pack" fan

I’ve only heard Lo in snippets, but I’d agree with that. People might not think that’s my type of commentary, but when done right, it’s great. Ron Santo does it. Jerry Remy does it. Guys that care and seem like they care, and have a good time when things are going right.

by SC on May 11, 2008 3:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My mom had a crush on him, I'm sure

She loved listening to Lowenstein.

He’s a smart guy, but funny as hell, and unlike Palmer, doesn’t give off that “I know I’m the smartest guy in the room” vibe.

Knowledgeable, could disagree with Proctor without being disagreeable, could tell stories without them taking over the telecast.

God, I miss John Lowenstein and Mel Proctor on HTS.

"Terrible what passes for a ninja these days..." -Pops Racer

by duck on May 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I really wish I could

explain why the heck the Royals still can’t beat the O’s. I would’ve thought the Greinke-Bannister-Meche combo would’ve put paid to that.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on May 10, 2008 3:00 PM EDT   0 recs

It's some kind of karma/cosmic justice thing.

Just a guess….

But I read the Royals board with comments about hating the O’s (due to their past), or some general Baltimore putdowns. I think the most offensive comments are along the line of “we’re losing to the Orioles!”. That’s getting kind of uppity for a franchise with about as much success as the O’s. We’re all living in the same slum, don’t go thinking you’re better.

O’s fans pretty much expect the team to be battered, I don’t recall any comments about how they should be beating anyone. Tell those KC boys to quit being so snooty and things will even out.

by drj on May 10, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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