That was probably more like it
We got shut out by Darrell Rasner (and Joba Chamberlain) and Garrett Olson's ERA is now sitting at a pretty 5.19.
Yyyyuuuup.
I do hope when reality strikes that everyone doesn't suddenly get all mad at the players for not trying hard enough. We're seeing a team that is legitimately trying all around to be the very best 2008 Baltimore Orioles that they can possibly be. We are dreadfully and woefully overmatched against a team like the Yankees. Disregard the records, because 40-45 games of a season don't generally mean a whole lot. We've seen this stuff enough before, you know?
Rob Neyer once said something that I found very true, and that I believe will come into play soon enough:
When you talk about players who are overpaid, there are some who want to turn the discussion into a matter of values. As if players could do better if only they had the integrity to try harder. And sure, that's very occasionally true. But nearly every player wants to play well, and if players aren't playing well, it's because they can't.
I don't know how this team will really end up, but I'm enjoying watching them play. They've got moxie and all the other crap that I don't really care about, but is easy to get caught up in, once you've seen it exercised enough.
I love this stupid team, but I think we're going to be seeing a lot more days like yesterday than we are the day before yesterday.
Sound that horn, Guts. Sing it, Millar. Carry on, our wayward sons.
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Look at our roster. This team is a joke-- and we all know it. The funny thing is...
the joke’s been on our opponents 24 times already—for reasons we don’t all know. Nobody does. It’s a funny game.
It’s been a nice ride, sure, and let’s hope it keeps on keepin’ on. But basically, April and May are what the Almighty put into baseball seasons so that even dimbulbs like us would fail to lose interest despite years of futility and no real reason for optimism. And it works.
Go O’s!
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
by Titov on May 22, 2008 6:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you all going to be so gloomy if we win today's game?
just askin…
we have shut-down … burres… pitching today…
by Y Not on May 22, 2008 7:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who's gloomy?
I’m just not into this fantasy world where we might chase the wild card. We can’t hit. Even if the pitching holds up, the team can’t hit.
by SC on May 22, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs bats? It's all about pithing and defense.
“I think we realize pitching and defense are going to win us some ball games” – Sam Perlozzo
by drj on May 22, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what's Sam doing now?
And the last time I checked, 0-0 games go into extra innings until SOMEBODY scores…
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this team is a psychological nightmare
after a loss like this, we all do the “well, here it comes. this is what its really going to be like so lets get prepared” thing. this team can win 6 or 7 straight, but if they lose badly(and they most definitely will have those nights) we go right back into defensive thinking mode. gettin ready for the letdown.
we’re like the fat kid that gets the pretty girl. yea, he loves every minute of it, but at any sign of unpleasantness (a fight, a joke gone wrong, a kiss on the cheek instead of the lips) he starts telling himself that it was a good ride while it lasted.
i dont really know what my point is. i guess its something along the lines of if we have had this much of a pleasant surprise to this point, great. and yea, there’ll be some tough losses. but 45 games tells us what the o’s have been able to do with 45 games. can they do it with the next 45? absolutely. the 45 after that? why not?
sure, we dont know if they will, but we dont know that they wont. I guess my point is we shouldnt expect this to go on forever, but we shouldnt expect the worst either.
"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver
by daveh873 on May 22, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this, my friend, is what we call batted fan syndrome.
we’ve been hurt before!
many, many times!
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on May 22, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course...
i meant to write battered, but maybe batted IS more appropriate.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on May 22, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this the area of law you're planning on specializing in? ;)
by Y Not on May 22, 2008 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
i did work at the domestic violence clinic when i was in school, though neither rick dempsey nor jay gibbons were clients.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on May 22, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or defendants, I hope
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Batted Fan Syndrome better. And for college teams it's Metal Batted Fan Syndrome.
And for duck, of course, it’s Heavy Metal Batted Fan Syndrome.
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
by Titov on May 22, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for remembering me.
And for getxstoked, too. Dude sings some SERIOUS metal.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take it you enjoyed the CD then...
by getxstoked on May 22, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking it out this weekend
Had state testing at my HS this week, and 3 softball games
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the stuff on your MySpace page rocks
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think you’re exactly right. This is why I think it seemed like the vast majority of O’s fans didn’t buy into the hot first half of 2005 (I sure did, though) and attendance never seemed to pick up then.
And this is why this season I feel like every loss could be the start of a looooong losing streak.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on May 22, 2008 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way.. i love your fat kid + hot girl analogy
You’re a contemporary Shakespeare!
anyway, I’ll wait to get upset only if we lose this series to the Yankees.
We’re playing them on the road, so 2 out of 3 would be great.
And yes, this loss sucked, but we’ve rarely lost like this all season…
If anything, this loss just serves to show that Olson might have to be left out of the rotation during the postseason.
by Y Not on May 22, 2008 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
during the postseason...
Lol
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
by dayzd toe on May 22, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh... to be young again...
young, dumb, and full of…. well you know where I’m going with this.
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
by dayzd toe on May 22, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think we can get by...
...with just Guthrie, Cabrerra and Burres in the post season?
Maybe for the wild card series, but we are going to need at least one other guy for the ALCS and the WS. And I’d definitely take Olson over Trax.
"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."
by spike2131 on May 22, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loewen, obviously.
Or we trade Jay Payton for a mediocre pitcher. That’ll work, too.
by getxstoked on May 22, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't we just trade him for Brandon Webb while we're at it?
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on May 22, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Roy Halladay.
Maybe then he could win one of his CGs.
by getxstoked on May 22, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you SEEN our lineup?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it useful to have low expectations for things I have no control over
And the O’s are a poster child.
MacPhail spent the off season lowering expectations. Let’s face it, we’ve had some pitching surprises (DCabs and Johnson have been my favorites) that have helped carry the team. Problem is they won’t continue to compensate for the bats.
Keep those expectations low. The best that can happen is you continue to be mildly surprised.
by drj on May 22, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think i just found my signature for this board
“Ain’t no sense worrying: If you have no control over something, ain’t no sense worrying about it -you have no control over it anyway. If you do have control, why worry? So either way, there ain’t no sense worrying.”
-Mickey Rivers
by fishoutawata on May 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This proves it all!
What can the Danes teach us about happiness?
“Year after year we’re just happy that things didn’t go as badly as we’d feared.”
by drj on May 22, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't want to get into this...
Robinhood style of gov’t.
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
by dayzd toe on May 22, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said, SC
It’s hard not to get caught up in this team, even though logically we know they’re not very good.
"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 22, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
honestly...
it’s not been hard to get caught up in any of the past 11 incarnations of this team. We’re true O’s fans who always get caught up… until August.
Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008
by dayzd toe on May 22, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, true
I don’t really remember getting caught up last year, but I’m sure I did. The problem is when I think about last year I think about the miserable ending to the season. The memory that actually pops into my head when I think of last year is being at Kevin Millar t-shirt night on a dreary, foggy evening where there were only 500 people in the stands, Victor Zambrano (or was it Santos? doesn’t matter) was getting whalloped by the Angels and we left before the game was over because it was so freaking miserable. It’s hard to remember that the O’s did actually start off not so great.
"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 22, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, let's all calm down.
Obviously, the Yankees have oodles more talent on their team than we do’. Jeez, if you count the HR he was robbed of, A-rod alone has driven in as many earned runs as our whole f-ing team over the last two days. And yet…
And yet this scrappy little team made up of mostly barely-AAA talent seems to find a way to stay above .500. Having a team ERA around 4 sure doesn’t hurt-the Yanks can’t claim that. All we need to keep it going is to score an average of 5 runs a game. Hasn’t happened yet, but it’s not that lofty a goal. Having a vastly improved defense is good, too-again, not an area the MFY can be all that proud of. I think we are also learning anew the value of a functional organization, where everyone, from the front office down to the class A affiliates, is on the same page, and the owner stays the fuck out of it. Again, the Yankee comparison here is intriguing.
Personally, I think that if we can take 1 out of 3 from good teams, and beat up on weaker ones, we done good. Is that too crazy to hope for? (I still dearly wish to take the series from the MFY, just the same.)
by fishoutawata on May 22, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who cares about the Orioles aspect of this anyway?
Don’t you realize that…
BIG NEWS: JOBA CHAMBERLAIN IS WORKING HIS WAY TO THE ROTATION… HE DID THIS BY PITCHING 2 INNINGS VERSUS SOME PEOPLE LAST NIGHT…
In other news, i think there’s something going on in iraq and a few people are running for some political position in the us.
But OOOMMMMGGGG… Chamberlain pitched 2 innings…
by Y Not on May 22, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see you got the memo from SI and ESPN
and finally have your priorities in order
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is now officially time
for someone to take Fredo Steinbrenner “fishing”.
He’s drastically weakening the 8th inning. Yeah, Hawkins & Farnsworth, they’ll set up Rivera just fine.
And he’s doing this without any guarantee of improving the rotation. Eh, where’s Joba’s fastball gonna be in the 5th inning when the lineup’s had 2 or 3 turns? I have no way of knowing, but not at 98 mph, I can assure you.
I’m telling you, this is the greatest moment in Yankee hater history since before King George was suspended and allowed Gene Michael to develop guys like Williams, Pettitte, Rivera & Jeter in peace without having them traded at the 1st error or HR given up.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on May 22, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a bad team
but we’re gonna do better than we all thought we would
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
by exitfare on May 22, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitching
Why are we around .500? Like fishoutawata said, an era around 4. The pitching has been pretty darn good. Kranitz has probably helped. Albers and Johnson have helped. Sherrill has done his job well. The starters, except for last night and Trax, have been consistent the past month. Also, we haven’t had any injuries, yet. We’re playing the Oriole’s A Team, for what it’s worth. If there no major injuries, and the pitching continues, we could be a .500 ballclub. Big if, though.
by Peter's Wolf on May 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would buy into the “Why not us?” crap if this was a new thing, but it isn’t. As it is well publicized, the Orioles have had hot starts like this before and it always goes awry. I understand those who get mad when we talk about the inevitable let down but come on, it is going to happen. I don’t think it is so much about how atrocious the roster is, but rather the fact that down the stretch the players on the other teams decide that they aren’t going to throw a season away and lose to teams who are playing on pure emotion like the O’s; it is no coincidence that the Orioles lead the league in one run games and comebacks as they feel motivated to win those tight ones.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 22, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, this would be Debbie Downer
I hope the O’s start losing, and soon, because I sure as hell want a good draft pick and not this fake contention for may stuff.
by Go O's!! on May 22, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well since that's what Baltimo said
in his draft post, I guess the shoe fits.
"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 22, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“down the stretch the players on the other teams decide that they aren’t going to throw a season away and lose to teams who are playing on pure emotion like the O’s”
So right now, early in the season, teams decide that they don’t really care if they lose to the O’s, and that’s why the O’s are winning?
I’m no idiot; the O’s won’t stay playing like this all year. But that bizarre reasoning has nothing to do with it.
"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean to say that
Right now the Orioles are playing on pure emotion, desire to win, and simply are off to a hot start. I hate when people use intangibles that have nothing to do with sports like team chemistry, or the fact that history is against you because your franchise is only 7-25 in game 7 all time. This emotion thing with the Orioles is one thing I will buy into. I think that the Orioles want to win, and as SC said, they are doing all they possibly can to do just that. In almost every interview a player will reference to the fact that they are not going to go away and believe in themselves. Additionally, the O’s seem to only score runs when they are down and really need them, and then just throw their AB’s away when they are up big or have come back to take the lead. I think you can attribute that to the fact that they are zoning in on the pitches being given to them and somewhat catching guys off guard. Just a sidebar, but you also have to think that guys will start to hit Sherill soon. He is doing well but guys will catch on soon. I played for a long time and a guy who "hides" the ball can only do that for so long, because the second and third time you see the guy you begin to see the ball and if he can’t smoke one over the plate or have the bottom drop off as a closer, it becomes awfully tough to get outs.
My comment on other teams was meant to say that other pitchers and probably told to attack the strike zone on most of the O’s hitters and make them hit the ball. Going along with that, the big boys don’t really get up for April and May, plain and simple. Guys in the NBA will openly admit that they don’t put in half the effort for the regular season that they do in the playoffs. In the MLB players will look back in September and remark how they wish they had played harder and put more effort into their games in April and May as those games are what are hampering them late in the year. I think guys like Millar, Mora, and Huff and physically doing all they can, but when other teams become involved in division races the O’s always seem to fade, year in and year out it is no coincidence that they do well early and fall late.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawkins
was suspended 3 games and fined. Just thought you were all dying to know.
I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH
by BPinOK on May 22, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah but
He’s appealed it and still gets to play.
"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)
by dayzd toe on May 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the appeal will be heard
in time for him to serve in IN Baltimore next week.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on May 22, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is one aspect of Russian jurisprudence that I wish could be applied here.
In certain kinds of criminal cases, if you appeal a verdict and lose, your penalty is increased. Hawkins should be looking at a one month suspension. If he doesn’t like that, he should appeal in the manful, Orioles way: get off your Jet-Ski and punch out the judge.
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
by Titov on May 23, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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