Did this bug anyone else?

by yurizanow on May 28, 2008 12:06 PM EDT Comment 15 comments

I went to the Mets-Marlins game last night, so even though I live in New York I wasn't able to watch the Yankees-O's game. The only way I could keep tabs is by periodically checking the out-of-town scoreboard. When I went home I was pleased to see that I could watch the end of the game and was throughly happy with the outcome.

However, one thing bugged me and I wanted to know if it bugged anyone else. In the final inning, after the Yankees intentionally walked Kevin Millar, Dave Trembley Dave Trembley used Luis Hernandez, who I believe was the last man on the bench, to pinch run for Millar.

Why?

As far as I can tell there was no reason to do that. If the guy on third scores the game is over so it doesn't matter how slow the guy on first is. There was only one out, so even if they force Millar out on second, the game is probably over. If there is a double-play opportunity, the guy who will make the biggest difference in preventing it with his speed is batter, not the guy on first and I would think a bigger guy like Millar might do a better job of breaking it up than Luis Hernandez.

If the Orioles didn't score, then the game continues with no first baseman and nobody left on the bench. The move ultimately had no consequences for the Orioles, but it still struck me as strange.

Did anyone else notice or am I just nitpicking?

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the only thing i came up with...

was breaking up the double play. if he was going to run, i’d have done it at third for Huff. thankfully, Latoya Hawkins took care of that for us.

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on May 28, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Roch mentioned this today in his blog

He called it “Let’s manage along with Dave Trembly”.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on May 28, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My guess is...

his thoughts went something along the lines of Millar being too slow to get down to second to break up the DP. So he wanted someone who’s faster. But in the grand scheme that move didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me either.

"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)

by dayzd toe on May 28, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Even though Millar is bigger, on a tailor made ball to the corner or middle infield Kevin wouldn’t get there in time. I wouldn’t think it is too farfetched for Dave to send Luis on a 3-2 count, or even just a flat out steal and have Huff ready if they thrown down to second, the ball being slick and all.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on May 28, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Steal?

The bases were loaded. He would have to do a triple steal.

I don’t really respect Dave Trembley’s managing ability that much, but I don’t even think he’s that stupid.

My guess that he was tired an wasn’t thinking that the game would be over if the guy on third scores. That’s understandable because, after all, Trembley’s human and it was late, but I kind of would like my manager a little more with it regardless of the circumstances.

by yurizanow on May 28, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

jinx

now you can’t talk until someone says your name.

"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)

by dayzd toe on May 28, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yurizanow!

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by spike2131 on May 28, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh my fault

I thought that I remembered it being first and third with one out. Late night I guess but in that case I don’t really get it either.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on May 29, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not call you out or anything but

the bases were loaded… unless you were talking about some kind strange triple steal.

"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)

by dayzd toe on May 28, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

triple steal

was executed by the tribe last night.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on May 28, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No you are 100% right

I don’t know why I thought it was first an third but thats how I recalled it.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on May 29, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DD just wanted to try and pretend

that Luis Luis was useful for something, anything. He just got sick of looking down the bench and wondering, what the hell is that guy doing there? We don’t pay him, do we?

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by 33 on May 28, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, the only thing I can figure

Is the break up the double play factor. I remember someone in the game thread said something like, “Can we please get someone in there fast enough to avoid a double play ball?” and then poof! Luis on first.

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on May 28, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually what bugs me a bit more was Millar sure looked safe.

He still does on any replay I see.

by drj on May 28, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it's the right move

in hindsight, it didn’t matter.

but bases loaded, tying run at third, no one knows what will happen. it really depends on the double play. a ground ball to first base (3-4-3)? Or right to the third baseman (5-4-3)? You’d MUCH rather luis be running in both of those situations.

by zknower on May 29, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs