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Gameday Thread: O's (16-15) @ A's (19-14)

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Baltimore Orioles @ Oakland Athletics


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Two of the most surprisingly competitive teams in the American League throw down in Oakland for a three-game set. 10:05 on MASN, but I think I'll have the dreadful Oakland broadcast.

  Today's Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA BB K W-L
Garrett Olson - LH 1 6.2 2.70 1.35 .174 5 6 1-0
Dana Eveland - LH 6 34.1 3.67 1.28 .236 14 26 3-2

Eveland is a southpaw semi-journeyman at the age of just 24. Drafted by Milwaukee, he was traded to the Diamondbacks with Doug Davis and David Krynzel for Claudio Vargas, Johnny Estrada and Greg Aquino. Later, he was sent to Oakland with five others in the Dan Haren deal. He's done a heck of a good for the A's so far, but their rotation started hot last year before tapering off a little bit, too.

We're the first or one of the very first teams to face Frank Thomas in two different uniforms this season, too, so that's exciting. In what basically amounts to a single full season of play for Thomas at McAfee Coliseum, he's hit .273/.390/.535 with 39 homers and 115 RBI in his Hall of Fame career.

But don't fret, gang. Compare that to OUR designated hitter's career line at Oakland: .279/.308/.430, two homers, 10 RBI. Since he has a better batting average, I'm pretty certain that the comparison is relatively close.

  Orioles AB AVG OBP HR RBI
1 Brian Roberts - 2B 124 .266 .352 3 13
2 Nick Markakis - RF 110 .273 .403 6 14
3 Melvin Mora - 3B 124 .258 .306 4 17
4 Aubrey Huff - DH 112 .277 .352 5 19
5 Kevin Millar - 1B 117 .214 .285 4 14
6 Ramon Hernandez - C 91 .198 .232 3 15
7 Adam Jones - CF 109 .239 .282 2 10
8 Jay Payton - LF 59 .254 .279 2 5
9 Luis Hernandez - SS 61 .246 .304 0 3
  Athletics AB AVG OBP HR RBI
1 Kurt Suzuki - C 112 .286 .360 0 10
2 Mark Ellis - 2B 131 .237 .322 2 11
3 Mike Sweeney - 1B 74 .311 .373 2 10
4 Frank Thomas - DH 97 .206 .342 3 16
5 Emil Brown - RF 118 .271 .296 3 26
6 Jack Cust - LF 82 .244 .426 4 11
7 Bobby Crosby - SS 127 .268 .336 2 20
8 Donnie Murphy - 3B 34 .206 .308 2 6
9 Rajai Davis - CF 14 .357 .400 0 2

If you look at the lineups, you'll notice Emil Brown, case in point that runs batted in mean F-all. I also have to find some amount of respect for any team that can find a place in their starting lineup for Thomas, Sweeney and Cust. Somebody's back is going out. And how.

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Ugh

This one could get ugly, quickly.

The Roberts-tracker will be on tonight.

I just wish he’d hustle more.

by dtuck81 on May 5, 2008 9:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Easterns Motors

We NEED an Easterns Motors commerical with Aubrey Huff, Jamie Walker, and Chad Bradford. Where your job’s your credit.

by dtuck81 on May 5, 2008 9:46 PM EDT   0 recs

when you've been hitting as porrly as he has for the past 2 weeks

it’s not surprising.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he still has the flu.

Also, left-handed pitching

by getxstoked on May 5, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yup

flu city.

by Stacey on May 5, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And I get MASN2

which should turn on ANNNNNNYYYYYYY second now

/staring at black screen…

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Make that MASN

Since MASN2 never kicked in

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

could this be the last day above .500 for the o's?

well yea, it could be. but not if gregg… er… Garrett has anything to say about it! Go get ‘em G spot.

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on May 5, 2008 10:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Thorne's saying it's still the flu with Scott

I think he’s allergic to lefties.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Dog DNA

That’s Channel 11’s sweeps stunt? Doggie DNA testing to show if it’s a pure-bred? THAT’S what they’re going with?

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Tthey have Jack Cust in LF.

Those Oakland As realllllly don’t care about defense, do they?

Jack Cust in LF is an adventure waiting to happen. I can’t wait to see a Cust-assisted triple.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:04 PM EDT   0 recs

In recent years they have come around to the value of defense

They had guys like Mark Kotsay on their team who is one of the best centerfielders in the game.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on May 5, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He was good

but c’mon…Cust? I guess you gotta get all the bats you can, and Lord knows Frank Thomas ain’t gonna play first.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Love games in Oakland

The Baltimore of the west coast.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on May 5, 2008 10:07 PM EDT   0 recs

I think these old pictures of the pitchers

has been bad luck. Perhaps we can change it around to see if it actually influences the outcome of the game?

by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:09 PM EDT   0 recs

"have"

sigh. bad grammer is unexceptable.

by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What SC createth

I dare not change

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cmon...

eat the apple from the tree. it’s good. it’s not bad. don’t listen to that omnipotent party pooper.

by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I dare not incur

the wrath of SC. You just don’t know, dude.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not superstitious

Have you noticed? We’re bad because we have bad players.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on May 5, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just look at those fearsome batting averages

and even when they get on base they get picked off. Frustrating as hell

by Bromo on May 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

huff n stuff has the best BA

laaaaaame

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on May 5, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

were the A's announcers listening to the Angel ones?

Because that’s the second Musial batting stance comparison for Markakis in two days.

And first pitch again? sigh

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on May 5, 2008 10:13 PM EDT   0 recs

MORE STUPID BASERUNNING?

WTF IS THIS?

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Can we just stand on the bases until the ball hits the ground?

We gotta change the luck somehow….

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT   0 recs

I really thought when they threw to 1st and Nicky came back easy

they had a meeting about this shitty base running. New memo pending

by Bromo on May 5, 2008 10:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Okay

This running every time somebody gets on base gets old really, really quickly.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on May 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT   0 recs

i understand why dave trembley feels we have to run...

but seriously.

STOP FUCKING DOING IT

by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:17 PM EDT   0 recs

That stadium just swallows everything, doesn't it?

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT   0 recs

I bet it ain't the only thing in Oakland that does. (rimshot!)

I’m here all week. etc etc.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tip your waitresses and bartender...

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it's a big ol place

What’s weird is that I think I’ve grown to LIKE Oakland’s cookie-cutter stadium over the years, as it’s become more rare.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can live without

all those flying saucers from the 60s and 70s.

And to think, if Jerry Hoffberger (sp?) had his way in the 60s, the O’s would have played in a dome by the ‘69 World Series.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Walloped

Kee-Rist G.Thorne.. take a lude dude

by Bromo on May 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT   0 recs

3 Beers Thorne

is only 1 in. Give him another inning….

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really good breaking ball

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on May 5, 2008 10:28 PM EDT   0 recs

great hussle Ramon

http://oriolecentral.wordpress.com

by Oriole on May 5, 2008 10:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Seriously

someone name one starting MLB catcher who is a worse player than Razor.

by math_geek on May 5, 2008 10:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Paul Bako laughs at Razor

He has 3 homers already

http://oriolecentral.wordpress.com

by Oriole on May 5, 2008 10:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Josh Bard

And Pudge Rodriguez isn’t too far ahead, but no one notices because he’s Pudge Rodriguez, Great Player, even though he’s fuck awful now.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on May 5, 2008 10:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

who's catching for the Mets now days?

http://oriolecentral.wordpress.com

by Oriole on May 5, 2008 10:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i don't know who he is....

but i’d blindly take him over Razor at this point

http://oriolecentral.wordpress.com

by Oriole on May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i actually met and played catch with raul casanova's cousin

he was impressed that i knew who he was because this was back in 99 i believe..

kid had a good arm

by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Casanova played with the O's in 1996

I just looked it up. 2 games, 1 AB

http://oriolecentral.wordpress.com

by Oriole on May 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yadier Molina

and his lifetime 71 OPS+ would also like to talk to you.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

But to be fair, he is a legitimately phenomenal defensive asset.

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by SC on May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

also known as "The Patterson Argument."

I just don’t think anything short of an Ozzie Smith level of defense comes close to making up for being, essentially, an automatic out.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

granted, Molina's career OPS+

is still better than Razor’s so far this season. UGH.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The problem with this is that Corey Patterson’s defense was vastly overrated by, um, O’s fans. Sorry, guys. He had a -6 FRAA score last year, and was at 6 the year before. Molina is consistently at 15 or so.

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on May 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

catcher is the one position where...

he can suck offensively but it doesn’t matter a ton to me. If he calls a good game, throws out baserunners, and makes the pitchers better. I’m fine with a .225 average and weak production. Sadly, Ramon isn’t even doing that.

http://oriolecentral.wordpress.com

by Oriole on May 5, 2008 10:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

one of my close friends is a Cards fan

Molina is one of his favourite players, even if he can’t hit worth a crap.

by math_geek on May 5, 2008 10:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I just looked for the crappiest team in the majors and Josh stood out

I think his batting avg. is better than RZA’s though, so it’s a tough question

by Bromo on May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no it's not

Bard has no power. Hernandez has at least shown some pop still this season. Bard is 36 points worse in OPS—58 adjusted OPS+, Hernandez is at a whopping 64. They’re both shit.

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by SC on May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice play, Luis

I mean, it was. Took the circle route and made a good throw. Credit where credit’s due.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT   0 recs

anyone know why...

luke scott is essentially losing his starter-role?

by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT   0 recs

because he's stunk

And sitting against lefties is nothing new. Of course they don’t notice that Jay Payton is horrible, too. Clutch hitting! Oh, wait, they’ve changed it to “timely” hitting. God.

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by SC on May 5, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Holy Crap

4 Strikes on Cust! I thought I counted wrong.

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