Gameday Thread: O's (16-15) @ A's (19-14)
Baltimore Orioles @ Oakland Athletics
Two of the most surprisingly competitive teams in the American League throw down in Oakland for a three-game set. 10:05 on MASN, but I think I'll have the dreadful Oakland broadcast.
| Today's Starting Pitchers | GS | IP | ERA | WHIP | BAA | BB | K | W-L | |
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Garrett Olson - LH | 1 | 6.2 | 2.70 | 1.35 | .174 | 5 | 6 | 1-0 |
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Dana Eveland - LH | 6 | 34.1 | 3.67 | 1.28 | .236 | 14 | 26 | 3-2 |
Eveland is a southpaw semi-journeyman at the age of just 24. Drafted by Milwaukee, he was traded to the Diamondbacks with Doug Davis and David Krynzel for Claudio Vargas, Johnny Estrada and Greg Aquino. Later, he was sent to Oakland with five others in the Dan Haren deal. He's done a heck of a good for the A's so far, but their rotation started hot last year before tapering off a little bit, too.
We're the first or one of the very first teams to face Frank Thomas in two different uniforms this season, too, so that's exciting. In what basically amounts to a single full season of play for Thomas at McAfee Coliseum, he's hit .273/.390/.535 with 39 homers and 115 RBI in his Hall of Fame career.
But don't fret, gang. Compare that to OUR designated hitter's career line at Oakland: .279/.308/.430, two homers, 10 RBI. Since he has a better batting average, I'm pretty certain that the comparison is relatively close.
| Orioles | AB | AVG | OBP | HR | RBI | |
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| 1 | Brian Roberts - 2B | 124 | .266 | .352 | 3 | 13 |
| 2 | Nick Markakis - RF | 110 | .273 | .403 | 6 | 14 |
| 3 | Melvin Mora - 3B | 124 | .258 | .306 | 4 | 17 |
| 4 | Aubrey Huff - DH | 112 | .277 | .352 | 5 | 19 |
| 5 | Kevin Millar - 1B | 117 | .214 | .285 | 4 | 14 |
| 6 | Ramon Hernandez - C | 91 | .198 | .232 | 3 | 15 |
| 7 | Adam Jones - CF | 109 | .239 | .282 | 2 | 10 |
| 8 | Jay Payton - LF | 59 | .254 | .279 | 2 | 5 |
| 9 | Luis Hernandez - SS | 61 | .246 | .304 | 0 | 3 |
| Athletics | AB | AVG | OBP | HR | RBI | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Kurt Suzuki - C | 112 | .286 | .360 | 0 | 10 |
| 2 | Mark Ellis - 2B | 131 | .237 | .322 | 2 | 11 |
| 3 | Mike Sweeney - 1B | 74 | .311 | .373 | 2 | 10 |
| 4 | Frank Thomas - DH | 97 | .206 | .342 | 3 | 16 |
| 5 | Emil Brown - RF | 118 | .271 | .296 | 3 | 26 |
| 6 | Jack Cust - LF | 82 | .244 | .426 | 4 | 11 |
| 7 | Bobby Crosby - SS | 127 | .268 | .336 | 2 | 20 |
| 8 | Donnie Murphy - 3B | 34 | .206 | .308 | 2 | 6 |
| 9 | Rajai Davis - CF | 14 | .357 | .400 | 0 | 2 |
If you look at the lineups, you'll notice Emil Brown, case in point that runs batted in mean F-all. I also have to find some amount of respect for any team that can find a place in their starting lineup for Thomas, Sweeney and Cust. Somebody's back is going out. And how.
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Ugh
This one could get ugly, quickly.
The Roberts-tracker will be on tonight.
I just wish he’d hustle more.
by dtuck81 on May 5, 2008 9:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Easterns Motors
We NEED an Easterns Motors commerical with Aubrey Huff, Jamie Walker, and Chad Bradford. Where your job’s your credit.
by dtuck81 on May 5, 2008 9:46 PM EDT 0 recs
when you've been hitting as porrly as he has for the past 2 weeks
it’s not surprising.
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on
May 5, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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I think he still has the flu.
Also, left-handed pitching
by getxstoked on
May 5, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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And I get MASN2
which should turn on ANNNNNNYYYYYYY second now
/staring at black screen…
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on May 5, 2008 10:00 PM EDT 0 recs
Make that MASN
Since MASN2 never kicked in
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on
May 5, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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could this be the last day above .500 for the o's?
well yea, it could be. but not if gregg… er… Garrett has anything to say about it! Go get ‘em G spot.
"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver
by daveh873 on May 5, 2008 10:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Thorne's saying it's still the flu with Scott
I think he’s allergic to lefties.
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on May 5, 2008 10:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Dog DNA
That’s Channel 11’s sweeps stunt? Doggie DNA testing to show if it’s a pure-bred? THAT’S what they’re going with?
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on May 5, 2008 10:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Tthey have Jack Cust in LF.
Those Oakland As realllllly don’t care about defense, do they?
Jack Cust in LF is an adventure waiting to happen. I can’t wait to see a Cust-assisted triple.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:04 PM EDT 0 recs
In recent years they have come around to the value of defense
They had guys like Mark Kotsay on their team who is one of the best centerfielders in the game.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on
May 5, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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He was good
but c’mon…Cust? I guess you gotta get all the bats you can, and Lord knows Frank Thomas ain’t gonna play first.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on
May 5, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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Love games in Oakland
The Baltimore of the west coast.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 5, 2008 10:07 PM EDT 0 recs
I think these old pictures of the pitchers
has been bad luck. Perhaps we can change it around to see if it actually influences the outcome of the game?
by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:09 PM EDT 0 recs
What SC createth
I dare not change
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on
May 5, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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cmon...
eat the apple from the tree. it’s good. it’s not bad. don’t listen to that omnipotent party pooper.
by Y Not on
May 5, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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I dare not incur
the wrath of SC. You just don’t know, dude.
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on
May 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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it's easier to control superstition.
Empowers us a little bit.
by Y Not on
May 5, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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I'm not superstitious
Have you noticed? We’re bad because we have bad players.
by SC on
May 5, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
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wrong.
we’re bad because you didn’t count to 66 before the game.
You call yourself a fan.
by Y Not on
May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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We need Jobu to come
and take the fear out of our bats
by wscott on
May 5, 2008 11:18 PM EDT
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Just look at those fearsome batting averages
and even when they get on base they get picked off. Frustrating as hell
by Bromo on
May 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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huff n stuff has the best BA
laaaaaame
"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver
by daveh873 on
May 5, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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were the A's announcers listening to the Angel ones?
Because that’s the second Musial batting stance comparison for Markakis in two days.
And first pitch again? sigh
Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks
by wickedwitch on May 5, 2008 10:13 PM EDT 0 recs
MORE STUPID BASERUNNING?
WTF IS THIS?
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 5, 2008 10:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Can we just stand on the bases until the ball hits the ground?
We gotta change the luck somehow….
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on May 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT 0 recs
I really thought when they threw to 1st and Nicky came back easy
they had a meeting about this shitty base running. New memo pending
by Bromo on
May 5, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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Okay
This running every time somebody gets on base gets old really, really quickly.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT 0 recs
i understand why dave trembley feels we have to run...
but seriously.
STOP FUCKING DOING IT
by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:17 PM EDT 0 recs
if we lose to a pitcher named Dana.. I'll.. lose more respect for these guys.
Because that’s a girl’s name.
by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:18 PM EDT 0 recs
That stadium just swallows everything, doesn't it?
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on May 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT 0 recs
I bet it ain't the only thing in Oakland that does. (rimshot!)
I’m here all week. etc etc.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on
May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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Tip your waitresses and bartender...
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on
May 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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it's a big ol place
What’s weird is that I think I’ve grown to LIKE Oakland’s cookie-cutter stadium over the years, as it’s become more rare.
by SC on
May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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I can live without
all those flying saucers from the 60s and 70s.
And to think, if Jerry Hoffberger (sp?) had his way in the 60s, the O’s would have played in a dome by the ‘69 World Series.
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on
May 5, 2008 10:27 PM EDT
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3 Beers Thorne
is only 1 in. Give him another inning….
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on
May 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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Really good breaking ball
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 5, 2008 10:28 PM EDT 0 recs
How long does it take to get over jet lag to the west coast?
A month or two?
by Bromo on May 5, 2008 10:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Seriously
someone name one starting MLB catcher who is a worse player than Razor.
by math_geek on May 5, 2008 10:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Paul Bako laughs at Razor
He has 3 homers already
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by Oriole on
May 5, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
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Josh Bard
And Pudge Rodriguez isn’t too far ahead, but no one notices because he’s Pudge Rodriguez, Great Player, even though he’s fuck awful now.
by SC on
May 5, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
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who's catching for the Mets now days?
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by Oriole on
May 5, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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i don't know who he is....
but i’d blindly take him over Razor at this point
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by Oriole on
May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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i actually met and played catch with raul casanova's cousin
he was impressed that i knew who he was because this was back in 99 i believe..
kid had a good arm
by Y Not on
May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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Casanova played with the O's in 1996
I just looked it up. 2 games, 1 AB
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by Oriole on
May 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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Yadier Molina
and his lifetime 71 OPS+ would also like to talk to you.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on
May 5, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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yeah
But to be fair, he is a legitimately phenomenal defensive asset.
by SC on
May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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also known as "The Patterson Argument."
I just don’t think anything short of an Ozzie Smith level of defense comes close to making up for being, essentially, an automatic out.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on
May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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granted, Molina's career OPS+
is still better than Razor’s so far this season. UGH.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on
May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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The problem with this is that Corey Patterson’s defense was vastly overrated by, um, O’s fans. Sorry, guys. He had a -6 FRAA score last year, and was at 6 the year before. Molina is consistently at 15 or so.
by SC on
May 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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catcher is the one position where...
he can suck offensively but it doesn’t matter a ton to me. If he calls a good game, throws out baserunners, and makes the pitchers better. I’m fine with a .225 average and weak production. Sadly, Ramon isn’t even doing that.
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by Oriole on
May 5, 2008 10:43 PM EDT
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one of my close friends is a Cards fan
Molina is one of his favourite players, even if he can’t hit worth a crap.
by math_geek on
May 5, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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Yeah, I just looked for the crappiest team in the majors and Josh stood out
I think his batting avg. is better than RZA’s though, so it’s a tough question
by Bromo on
May 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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no it's not
Bard has no power. Hernandez has at least shown some pop still this season. Bard is 36 points worse in OPS—58 adjusted OPS+, Hernandez is at a whopping 64. They’re both shit.
by SC on
May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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Nice play, Luis
I mean, it was. Took the circle route and made a good throw. Credit where credit’s due.
"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar
by duck on May 5, 2008 10:40 PM EDT 0 recs
anyone know why...
luke scott is essentially losing his starter-role?
by Y Not on May 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT 0 recs
because he's stunk
And sitting against lefties is nothing new. Of course they don’t notice that Jay Payton is horrible, too. Clutch hitting! Oh, wait, they’ve changed it to “timely” hitting. God.
by SC on
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