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Gameday Thread: O's (16-18) @ Royals (15-18)

Baltimore Orioles at Kansas City Royals, May 8, 2008 8:10 PM EDT


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  Today's Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA BB K W-L
Daniel Cabrera - RH 7 44.1 4.06 1.35 .226 23 27 2-1
Luke Hochevar - RH 3 16.2 4.86 1.62 .273 9 14 2-1

Hochevar was the No. 1 pick in the 2006 draft. He's a Scott Boras kid, stands 6'5", has a big heater, and has been compared to Kevin Brown, which hopefully just means his pitching.

Cabrera is taller. Thus, I conclude he is better. Win!

Game time is 8:10 on MASN.

Baltimore AB AVG OBP HR RBI
1 Brian Roberts - 2B 133 .263 .353 3 15
2 Melvin Mora - 3B 136 .257 .306 4 18
3 Nick Markakis - RF 122 .270 .395 6 14
4 Aubrey Huff - DH 124 .266 .341 5 20
5 Kevin Millar - 1B 125 .224 .315 4 15
6 Luke Scott - LF 98 .286 .366 1 10
7 Ramon Hernandez - C 99 .202 .234 3 17
8 Adam Jones - CF 117 .231 .272 2 10
9 Freddie Bynum - SS 0 .000 .000 0 0
Kansas City AB AVG OBP HR RBI
1 David DeJesus - CF 70 .314 .380 3 16
2 Mark Grudzielanek - 2B 96 .302 .350 0 4
3 Alex Gordon - 3B 125 .280 .348 4 15
4 Billy Butler - DH 121 .281 .343 1 13
5 Mark Teahen - RF 122 .270 .350 1 8
6 Alberto Callaspo - LF 41 .341 .426 0 3
7 ROSS GLOAD - 1B 87 .276 .323 0 9
8 John Buck - C 83 .253 .340 2 12
9 Tony Pena, Jr. - SS 93 .161 .177 0 6

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Hochevar is currently sporting a 1.62 WHIP, .273 BAA. He’s young with 4 career starts under his belt. Given the O’s past success with youngsters I smell a big night for Luke.

Over/Under on caught stealing + pickoff + out advancing 1.5

by drj on May 8, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1.5???

What kind of line is that? OVER!

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on May 8, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

over...way over

"Daddy, is Hevan like BIRDLAND?"
"No son, Hevan is BIRDLAND."

by BENNY BIRDMAN on May 8, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about

Double plays on line drives?

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over

drj, don’t work in Vegas.

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are overreacting

The O’s have been spectacularly boneheaded as of late. The trend has to curtail at some point. I say they make at most one “Diamond Dave agressive out” tonight.

by drj on May 8, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Diamond Dave agressive out"

Love this phrase.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DDAO

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FYI

i’ve linked it in a fanshot, but bynum’s been recalled and is tonight’s lineup. torres is walking back to norfolk.

ronnie's a dillweed.

by j.q. higgins on May 8, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet

Hopefully Luis is next to go…

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2007 OBP .290 SLG .448 OPS .738

Nothing to sell the farm for, but far better than what we’ve been getting.

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in this lineup...

those slugging numbers are positively ruthian.

ronnie's a dillweed.

by j.q. higgins on May 8, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully

Hochevar pitches like his picture and passes out from holding his breath about the 2nd inning.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on May 8, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw...

that ad in the upper righthand corner of the homepage w/ the two, um, young ladies hooking up? mercy!

ronnie's a dillweed.

by j.q. higgins on May 8, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

The Royals TV guys don’t understand Daniel Cabrera. “He’s 98, 99 with his fastball” - no he’s not - “but the key is his slider”—no it’s not.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what the F

The Royals TV lineup said, for the Orioles:

CF Chulk

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who's Chulk?

maybe we should trade Payton for him

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought

but Gameday has Luis batting 9th.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gameday is making mistakes lately

He listed Sarfate as the reliever yesterday when Bradford came in.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa!

Lex Luger WCW entrance stock music used over the Royals defense.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mora

someone explain to me why hes still on the team

Some people ask me what I do during winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do, I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Roger Hornsby

by dulak8 on May 8, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

money

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any score yet?

Watching Keith Olbermann. Sorry, it’s practically my civic duty as a history teacher.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

Aggressive baserunning has paid off.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not agressive baserunning

That’s just fundamental baseball

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh oh

DT, seeing Huff advance to 3rd will now encourage Aubrey to steal the next base he can

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on May 8, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh

I actually get the impression Huff is one of our more intelligent players.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God help us if that's true

Maybe he’s just cutting back on the mid-day porn.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

Here’s one for everybody: Tony Pena, Jr., makes Luis Hernandez look like Cal Ripken.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

So what. He’s hitting .161/.177/.204.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take Tony Jr. over Luis or Boom Boom

SS is suppose to be most valuable defensive position. If you going to have a sucky bat, you might as well as have it as SS.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. This is beyond “sucky bat.” You are out of your mind. He cannot in any world be so good defensively that he can be valuable to your team hitting .161/.177.204. You are plum fuckin crazy, my friend.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's this level

of civil and rational discourse that encourages me to patronize this fair website. :)

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's only a month into the season.

If he’s hitting .161,/.177/.204 at tne season, then I’ll agree with you.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you’re not arguing that he is in any way beneficial to the Royals right now, right? And that he’d have to be HISTORICALLY EXCELLENT to hit like he did last year and be a true help to any team beyond “pinch runner!” or “defensive replacement!”

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, i'm arguing that his glove is valuable, right now

But if his VORP is -7.6, then clearly his glove isn’t outweighing his offense.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But he also make Luis look like Derek Jeter with the glove

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dudes, come on.

He’s so bad that there is nothing his defense can do to make up for it. Even Ozzie Smith hit .262/.337 career.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to go further

Pena’s OPS+ last year was 66. Ozzie’s - career - was 87. Ozzie had three years in 19 where he was 66 or worse.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ozzie is a Hall of Famer

Most players in the major leagues don’t compare favorably to Ozzie.

Compare him to Belanger.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Belanger is actually a good comparison

Belanger and Davey Concepcion. The importance of both is greatly overstated. The same probably goes for Ozzie, who was better than either of them.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cano is hitting .160/.216/.256

Tony isn’t going to hit that bad all year.

He will still be one of the worst hitter in the major leagues though.

He’s only a smidge better than Luis, but at least he can back his glove rep up.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cano’s VORP in 2007 was 40.5, down from 49.1 in 2006, and his rookie mark was 21.6.

Pena VORPed negative-7.6 in 2007. Come on, dudes. Seriously.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, -7.6 VORP?

Didn’t know that. VORP accounts for defense as well. Yeah, that is pretty bad, never mind, I’ll shut up now.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

VORP is offense only, actually

It’s adjusted based on the position you play, but it doesn’t give credit for being above average defensively.

I think we all fundamentally agree here, though.

Tony Pena is one of the worst starting shortstops in the majors.

Luis Hernandez is worse than Tony Pena.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

That’s fair. I’m mostly just really excited that there are other teams who have fans that have to put up with God awful players at shortstop.

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A request?

At some point, can you post a FAQ on why the hell I should care about these stats? I’m not being sarcastic, but VORP is still kind of a foreign concept to me. I feel like Brad Pitt in Fight Club

“No, I didn’t quite catch that Lou. Still not quite getting it. Ah, ok ok ok, I got it, I got it, I got it. Shit I lost it.”

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops, sorry I thought VORP accounted for defense

I thought I remember Rob Neyer saying if he had to only look at one statistic, he would look at VORP because it accounts for both offense and defensive contributions (not just adjustments), maybe he said it was another stat or I’m misremembering what he said.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WARP?

That’s Baseball Prospectus’s stat that includes defensive contributions.

I personally don’t like WARP because Baseball Prospectus has pretty bad defensive stats, and WARP gives too much credit for defense.

I think the best thing to do is take VORP and mentally add runs above/below average. If Pena is +10 at shortstop, then he’s just above replacement overall.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that might have been it

I think it was one of those 4 letter acronymns. But yeah, I like what you said, Tony Jr is a touch better than Luis. Luis was suppose to bring strong defense with a weak bat. At least Tony Jr. brings his glove.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

A 66 OPS+ sucks but it least at least I live with it if he’s a SS and his glove and range are great.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

More Lex Luger over the defensive lineup!

by SC on May 8, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

freddie!

sorry i get excited over seeing a ss play well

Some people ask me what I do during winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do, I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Roger Hornsby

by dulak8 on May 8, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that in poor taste?

Has anyone noticed that Hochevar, on Gameday, looks like he has a diamond earring? Also, he looks like a stroke victim.

by Dr Orpheus on May 8, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I'm Nick Markakis, I'm looking

for something to hit on the first pitch – Buck Martinez
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YEAH!!!!

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Nick!

Mora can’t even run on someone else’s HR right!

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cruise, Danny, cruise!

Just keep throwin’ the heat and sittin’ ‘em down. These don’t all have to be K’s, by the way.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Strikeouts are fascist.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 8, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to make a sarcastic comment

but can’t bring myself to supporting fascism in any way.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NICK!

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 8, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 run homer!

I knew we could rely on the Royals to be a whipping boy

by CoachOfEarl on May 8, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As Buck drones on about players needing glasses...

“My theory on glasses? Make sure you refill ‘em” – Three Beers Gary.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You'd drink too

If you went to school in Maine.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I went to Maryland

and drank my way through my middle two years. Maine? I’d be in AA by now.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only 2 of 4?

Lightweight

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on May 8, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welll...

Freshman year – totally out of my depth – my town had fewer people that UMd had students
Senior year – had to actually work to get A’s, cut down on my drinking time. Also broke as a digital clock with bad batteries.

Sophomore and junior years? Well…

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Makes sense

except for the $$$ part. That’s what Mil’s Best is for!

Actually my 1st & 4th years I was mostly in a happy partying mood, so I drank.

And my 2nd & 3rd years I was in a pissed off, pissed off mood, so I drank.

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on May 8, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a big fan of snow

Hate that shit.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, well yeah

That gets old for sure.

by Pack Man on May 8, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little bit of consternation over Cabrera on the Royals board

Clearly they haven’t been paying attention to the recent trend of Cabrera Bowl 08.

by drj on May 8, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GIve us some greatest hits...

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cabrera has 23/27 ratio BB/Ks. Let’s go Royals.

Why is Cabrera throwing strikes? I mean, really. WTF.

We look as miserable at the plate tonight as ever Cabrera just firing in fastballs

On the rare occasions Cabrera can locate his fastball (like tonight) he is a pretty tough pitcher to face.

by drj on May 8, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, they're just not paying attention this month...

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey motherfuckers!!!

I’m heeeeeeeeere

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

With a 4-0 lead

as long as it cuts both ways…

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Danny Boy @ Chick-Fil-A!!!!

SWEEEEET!

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Make sure you go on SATURDAY

They’re closed Sundays, you know

/ducks to avoid thrown objects

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yeah… crazy, christian wackos

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

milkshake teasing jerks.

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, now....

just because you can’t flip pages on a daily calendar…

/ducks again to avoid empty gin bottles and Satanic Bible being thrown at me :)

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the seventh day, God had a milkshake

So why can’t I?

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can make a milkshake.

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pfff.

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's the big guy looking?

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

10 Outs

3 Ks
7 groundballs
1 hit
0 BBs

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think trading Mora for Gordon straight up

would be good for our rebuilding process…

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Busy night for Brian Roberts..."

Music to my ears, I tell ya! Lots of ground balls for Danny Cabs.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm loving Danny

but I can’t quite shake the feeling that it’s wrong to feel this way.

by Stacey on May 8, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's OK

we all feel like that. It’s like when Robert Downey Jr says “No, really, this rehab worked….”

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1.5

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on May 8, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on May 8, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND

He hasn’t been picked off while gazing at his belly button

by drj on May 8, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ho Shaver?

Is that really how you pronounce it?

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Bynum a much better fielder than Luis?

Forgive my ignorance, but I don’t know much about him, but he seems to be able to hit a bit.

by Pack Man on May 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lookie here...

Boom Boom is Back.

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Leading the world in hitting...."

Easy there, Buck.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOD DAMN BRIAN ROBERTS!!!

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really much you can do about that one.

What did you want him to not crush that ball?

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly

I didn’t see it.

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh ok

well he hit it real good – just right at 2b. Oh well.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's something a little disconcerting

about Thorne saying, “coming, coming, coming”

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy Walker, on brother Jamie

Gary – “So Jimmy, did you tie his hand behind his back to make him a lefty?”

Jimmy Walker – “Down South, we use duct tape”

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DY-NO-MITE!

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy's favorite player growing up?

Roberto Clemente.

Bet you didn’t see THAT coming, did you?

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Millar needs to grow his hair back.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

daggoneit

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

D Cabs gets out of this. You watch.

One run. No meltdown. Good Danny, good Danny…

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe

But getting beat by Pena there was frustrating

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blind squirrel = Tony Pena Jr.

So he found a bloop single. Big deal.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Dyn-o-mite...

this could be the inning that the Cabby erupts. Let’s hope not…

by goonybananas on May 8, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally, someone shares the faith...

If Robert Downey Jr. can dry out, Daniel Cabrera can become a good pitcher.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's definitely different this year

I can’t help but believe. Last year he would’ve taken that opportunity to take a big old dump on the mound.

by Pack Man on May 8, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Even the mini-rally wasn’t old Danny.

He went 0-2 on all three guys who got on, and neither single was hit particularly well.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That should have read looked!

I was just too excited by another teams’ sucktitude.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Z's up 6-2 now

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

I see no reason he can’t go 8 if next inning is 12 pitches or so

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't play this game on paper!!

Take THAT EE

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They play it inside our TV screens

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes it was

It made me happy inside

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loren Wallace

I’m 100 miles away, son, ready to strike.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the story ends with him putting him in the wall.

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 8, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adam Jones, son!

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Go O's!

Lost is on, so I’m out. Missed last week as it is…

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's just too much good TV on Thursday

I’ve had the O’s muted on mlb.tv all night so I can watch my shows.

by Stacey on May 8, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice thing about the west coast

Lost doesn’t come on until another 3 hours here. At first I wasn’t digging this 10 pm start time but I’m starting to like it. Don’t give any spoilers!

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 5 minutes in

and I don’t know what the hell I’m watching. YOu’ll see in 2 hours, 55 minutes.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

last week's eppy was damn good

I think ABC is streaming Lost eppys on their website.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Missed last week

Looked for it on iTunes Friday, wasn’t there. Totally forgot they stream them on abc.com

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn.

At least Roberts is looking good at the plate now…

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

0-4

Not that good.

He’s trying to hit HRs now.

Do you smell bacon?

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's crushed the ball.

Both ABs I saw. Nothing wrong with hitting the ball hard.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

He’s been a flyball hitter his whole career.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really nice outing for Cabrera so far

I’m guessing he’ll get to start the 8th.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to believe in Cabs

I’ve been trashing him left and right for awhile now, but I think Kranitz has done something signficant with him.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I do believe Kranitz has had an effect.

RK: Hey Danny…
DC: Hey coach
RK: Thorw fastballs for strike, ‘kay? Doesn’t really matter where. Just get ‘em over. Got it?
DC: Okay, coach.

Voila, instant Cy Young candidate.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too busy saying

Down and away, down and away! It’s the only way to pitch!

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

free B

playmaka controlz

by thewaywardO on May 8, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now cut that out

If you start saying good things about Cabrera NOW, then you will cause a jinx. You must continue to trash him, as thats whats been working so far.

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

because you know how SC feels about superstition and jinxes.

by Stacey on May 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, obviously

Thats what make his jinxes especially effective.

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ring him up!

that 1-2 pitch was a motherfucking strike.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a fucking start for Cabs!

Keeping in mind that the Royals suck…

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah he's over 100 already.

Let Sherrill end it and have Cabrera end on a good note.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

out of curiousity

does a complete game count as a save?

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only because you can’t create your own save situation.

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 9, 2008 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is his fastball down?

I’ve only caught the last couple of innings on TV but I keep seeing 92 on the gun. Last week’s start, his fastball seem to be around 92-94. Earlier in the season, he was throwing around 96.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on May 8, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe

he’s been taking some off it in order to control it better.

Improving the ballclub: Not one of Peter Angelos' concerns.-SC Wed Jan 30, 2008

by dayzd toe on May 9, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Danny ends the 8th

104 pitches/66 strikes
1 BB
5 K

by Stacey on May 8, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Those stats aren't whats amazing

It’s the fact that he’s repeating that success thats frickin amazing.

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

word

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on May 8, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Millar prolly needs a vacation

maybe a month seeing america by bicycle

by Bromo on May 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's like, my dream vacation

One day I plan to bike from the arctic sea in alaska to las vegas. One day…

by PhilR8 on May 8, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is Luke OK?

that HBP did not look good, and now he’s being taken out

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bonk!

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aw, Freddie....

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by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bases loaded, one out...

No runs.

Thats my team!

TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC

by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's just sucktitute

Freddie has yet to learn situational hitting. He’s still had a decent day though.

BROB on the other hand.

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-5

He’s clearly the Orioles All-Star in 2008.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Have you been watching?

It’s not seeming like it from your comments.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your point being....

0-5 is still 0-5. He still doesn’t hustle all the time.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spoken like somebody who doesn't understand baseball.

0-5 is still 0-5 regardless of the quality of the contact or the ABs?? Come on man I would have thought people who bother posting here would have a better sense of the game.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

Okay. It’s not like he’s been pounding the ball the last 2 weeks. Sure. He’s what, about 3 for his last 13?

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind...

My issue with Roberts is simply his lack of hustle. But, I forgot, I don’t understand baseball and don’t understand how when he goes into a slump he sulks and acts like he stops trying.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say anything about hustle,

but I saw three ABs from him tonight and all three he got into hitters counts and in two of the three he hit the ball as hard as a hitter can. Quality ABs don’t always result in hits as anybody who’s ever played baseball know. I didn’t see any lack of hustle and he made several good defensive plays tonight. I don’t see what your argument is, but if 0-5 is it it’s not a very good one.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not just the 0-5....

It’s been years of a lack of hustle, not all the time… The 0-5 might be a 2-5 just from running hard all the time.

Further, Leadoff hitters should be bunting and utilizing their speed, and not swinging for the fences. He needs to stop trying to elevate everything.

Sadly they don’t have an average for “hard outs”.

Have you not been watching the past 10 games?

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the first year you've seen him play?

He’s never ever been a bunt and slash kind of guy which is the reason he puts up 40+ doubles every year and 10+ hrs. He’s always been a fly ball hitter and has always had a good average and on-base percentage. His steals do not come from blinding speed (he doesn’t have it), they come from quickness and great jumps. Quickness and great jumps don’t get you bunt hits and infield singles. He’s a doubles hitter at his core which is what he’s always been, which means, again like always, he’s going to have a lot of fly outs.

Of course there’s no average for hard outs, but you hit the ball hard and good things happens. You are making it more and more obvious you never played.

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

You’re going to tell me he’s not slumping with an 0-5 tonight and something like 5 for his last 37?

Kind of funny, when a guy is on a hot streak, the quality of the hits doesn’t matter, only when it’s an 0-5 night.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course he's slumping.

But having good ABs is the way you come out of a slump!

by O'sFan21 on May 8, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

Good point, but the fact is an 5-37 isn’t helping, no matter how you spin it.

Again, I don’t question his ability, but I just get fired up when it looks like he (or anyone else, Huff, Millar, Mora) doesn’t hustle. That 5-37 might be a 10-37, who knows.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 pitch K to finish a complete game

This was an incredible day for DCabs

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

What a fucking start by Danny boy.

by dkdc on May 8, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Complete Games are BIRDLAND!

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by spike2131 on May 8, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is definitely the best outing

by a starting pitcher for the O’s this season.

I’m not watching the game tomorrow.

by math_geek on May 8, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DCabs FTW

WHIP 0.444!

Hahaha TB and TOR are in the 12th tied at 3. Unfortuately, FY and FRS won.

by CoachOfEarl on May 8, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

love cabrera

awesome game to watch, shouldnt even let up that run, definately had that strikeout. fan of bynum

by semaj2989 on May 8, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Cabrera

ever had a stretch of starts like this?

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on May 8, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK...

I’m officially coming back around on D-Cabs. That’s what? 5 or 6 QS in a row?

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on May 8, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

6

First two starts were not quite Bad Danny, but not QS, either. The last 6 are all QS’s.

"If you're a fantasy baseball player, don't pick anybody from the Orioles. ... Nobody is going to pop your eyes out. But if you're in the American League East, bring your lunch, because you're going to need it." - Kevin Millar

by duck on May 8, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freddie B-Nice

With 8 putouts.

Nice.

by dtuck81 on May 8, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

zknower is magic.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."

by 2632 on May 8, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So are Kristen's, y'know, attributes. Are they being held in strategic reserve?

p.s. Congrats on NC! And here’s another sentence I never thought I’d write: Thank You, Tar Heels!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on May 8, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good morning and welcome once again to the Farm Report for Moscow and vicinity.

Holy sh#t, what a game! And now, without further ado, a sentence I was confident I would never write: Daniel Cabrera is our stopper.

OK, I take back the whole Trade Him While the Word Potential Still Tickles People’s Giblets thing. I take back the He’s the Taller, More Hispanic Sid thing. (On the other hand, Sid is also really dealin’- another sentence I assumed I’d never write- so let’s hold that one for the moment.) And I’ll even write a new verse for The Song when I sober up.

I’m as excited as anybody about this performance, but almost as much for its categorical rarity as for the streak-stopping win and the encouraging Good Daniel - or Consistent Daniel, rather - demonstration. At some point in the near future, CG’s will be like hitting for the cycle, a cool oddity that makes ESPN regardless of the game it happened in. This was our first CG since what, 1986 or something? What was the league-leading total in CG’s last year—3?

Anyway, it’s a shame that we’re within sniffing distance of .500 and feel we have to start El Hombre de Trasho again. I mean, yeah, we are the Royals’ daddy—so ridiculously so, in fact, that it’ll take a Traxfest to stop it. I won’t be getting up at 4:10 am to watch the ugly festivities, but when Albers comes in in the 3rd, give him my very best Hey-hey-hey.

Go O’s!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on May 9, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Hit the wrong button. This guy would not be a terrible guy to have on the bench/AAA somewhere to provide some organizational depth in the OF.

by dtuck81 on May 9, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dammit, missed another one

i’m missing all these great games, but sure enjoying the recaps!

DANNY BOY! Putting another one in the WON column! YOWZA!

by zknower on May 9, 2008 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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