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  Today's Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA HR BB K W-L
Jeremy Guthrie - RH 14 90.0 3.40 1.20 .242 11 24 59 3-6
Jon Lester - LH 14 82.1 3.50 1.37 .248 7 36 54 4-3

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Wasn't

AMA saying earlier that Lester had a chance to make the ASG? It’s a damn shame Guts doesn’t have the Ws b/c he is clearly the better pitcher of those two.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Jun 12, 2008 5:29 PM EDT   0 recs

well...

maybe one day, when trembley is managing the AS team, he can get his revenge.

oh, wait…what?

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jun 12, 2008 5:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They lost

on the road, to a team as expected getting all the calls, with their best two players doing nothing offensively, in a championship series they still lead 2-1. Um ouch.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 12, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

VORP:
Guthrie 16.9
Lester 15. 8

Lester: 82.3 IP, 77 H, 7 HR, 125 ERA+, 54:36 K:BB
Guthrie: 90 IP, 83 H, 11 HR, 125 ERA+, 59:24 K:BB

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 12, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

red sox

V

<—-orioles

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 6:05 PM EDT   0 recs

HAHAHA

what the hell is that?!

by Y Not on Jun 12, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that's a pictorial metaphor

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I really hate

How they rarely will tell you the umpires before the game.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Ramon

Is horrendous. Just absolutely horrendous. Why and how is this guy still starting?

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Wieters is still in A-ball?

He has incriminating pictures of Trembley?

I don’t know.

by getxstoked on Jun 12, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OUCH.

We might be seeing Oscar tonight…

by getxstoked on Jun 12, 2008 6:22 PM EDT   0 recs

and we are.

make this good.

by getxstoked on Jun 12, 2008 6:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh

That can’t be good. Where is Scott Moore?

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Norfolk.

I assume if Millar is out for an extended period, he’ll be finding his way to Baltimore.

by getxstoked on Jun 12, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's the

Covering the Bases Curse.

...or something.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow

That’s…awful.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:37 PM EDT   0 recs

that was douchey

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

typical

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Jun 12, 2008 6:38 PM EDT   0 recs

"Rarely do you see two guys misjudge a ball"

Only on the O’s…

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Jun 12, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Drunk Gary

Could have caught it….

With Varitek getting the start off tonight, and all, whatever that means.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

50 pitches, 6 full counts so far.

St Guts is working for it tonight.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 12, 2008 6:45 PM EDT   0 recs

he works hard for his money...

so you BETTER treat him right!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jun 12, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Run should be unearned

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Jun 12, 2008 6:46 PM EDT   0 recs

We need

An offical “Buy Ramon a Boflex” Fund.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:46 PM EDT   0 recs

I'll contribute to a buy Ramon a bus ticket to Norfolk fund.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cubs to the rescue...again!

they’ve signed ben broussard.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jun 12, 2008 6:50 PM EDT   0 recs

can he play the OF?

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Doesn't matter

Because I think DeRosa will become the everyday LF and Broussard is a backup 1B/PH.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

chi trib says also that

The Cubs will call up Triple-A outfielder Micah Hoffpauir one day earlier than expected on Thursday to take Soriano’s roster spot.

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What's it like

To have a minor league system with decent position players?

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

they also have pie and murton

obviously.

they’d make a decent platoon in the outfield but take up two spots.

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, now...

and even eric patterson looks decent, micah hoffpaiur or ben broussard are really no better than luis terrero or oscar salazar (i.e. AAAA journey men). that’s maybe the utltimate destination of costanzo and moore, but they’re still young enough to contribute. fwiw, moore’s been hitting like a motherfucker lately.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jun 12, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice quick inning

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Jun 12, 2008 7:00 PM EDT   0 recs

I like how

The Boston “fans” cheered for Yokulis. Yes, nice job sliding..

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 7:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Oops

Millar’s mom is really charasmatic…

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mlb.tv blowing donkey dicks

am i the only one getting terrible stream tonight?

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

mine is pretty clean so far.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jesus Guthrie

Stop trying to throw it away.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Let's ignore

The fact he was safe.

by dtuck81 on Jun 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Go Canes!

I didn’t know there was another Miami person on here.

http://blogs.themiamihurricane.com/

by MiamiMagic on Jun 12, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Have you been to...

Hall of Canes? They’re a really good SB Canes blog.

http://blogs.themiamihurricane.com/

by MiamiMagic on Jun 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There should be a penalty box for umpires that blow easy calls

you could throw rotten fruit at them for an inning or two…that’d be awesome

by Bromo on Jun 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know how popular I'll be here...

But I firmly believe that any replay system should include plays at bases like that. It’s not that hard; limit the number of challenges coaches could use, like in the NFL.
People say that it should only include home run plays, because “they have a direct impact on the game,” but getting rid of the lead-off base runner has a huge impact too. I think this whole replay debate is absurd.

http://blogs.themiamihurricane.com/

by MiamiMagic on Jun 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

i agree

somebody has to explain to me how - if they add replay - they’re going to avoid clusterfucks like if the batter keeps running and the defense stops playing because batter thinks it’s fair and defense thinks it’s foul

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jun 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, that backfired.

by getxstoked on Jun 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT   0 recs

fuck.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT   0 recs

Youkilis looks like that character on Sienfeld who wants to be a bookie and ends up getting locked in the trunk of a car with his fingers accidently broken.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Great pep talk Kranny gave Guthrie with the bases loaded

Maybe he said something like, “Just throw it down the middle of the plate. The worst that can happen is that we’re down 5-zip.”
I was kind of hoping that Guthrie would have a bigtime outing, to increase his ALl Star chances. That’s pretty much out of reach now.

by Lothar on Jun 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Hey Coco - Adam Jones woulda caught that

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Chip away, guys, chip away.

"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron

by BrianS on Jun 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT   0 recs

hmmm...

Looks like we’ve got ourselves a ballgame here…

by getxstoked on Jun 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice. Just as I was about to say something bad about you, Ramon.

"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron

by BrianS on Jun 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT   0 recs

C’mon Sawx, get Chokeajima up.

"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron

by BrianS on Jun 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Dammit.

"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron

by BrianS on Jun 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT   0 recs

holy crap

what happened to guthrie?

by Y Not on Jun 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT   0 recs

btw...

who here wants to fight pedroyer? seriously…

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jun 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Can I just say

Go Lakers.

"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron

by BrianS on Jun 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT   0 recs

hey, dudes, look at me!

i’m going to go brag about our basketball team in an BASEBALL blog dedicated to a team in ANOTHER CITY!

THAT’LL SHOW ‘EM!

by zknower on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I forgot

conversations with Oriole fans are one-way only

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 13, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Which

would also explain why I got no response re: Lester above. Go figure.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 13, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey

jackass actually, I just read that this morning. I was going off of the lines posted on the gameday thread and by watching both guys pitch a couple of times.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Jun 13, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You are right though...

Lester is CLEARLY the better pitcher. Unless of course he pitched in any other ball park in the world. I must be in a bad mood today because your douchebaggery really never bothered me but should you step in front of a bus today I would probably manage a smile.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Jun 13, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sorry

did I say he was clearly the better pitcher? No, in fact, you said Guthrie was “clearly” the better pitcher which is clearly not true. I have no idea what the ballpark has to do with it. That’s a non sequitir.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 13, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sequitur.

If you’re going to be all hoity-toity and use Latin, try to spell it properly.

by zknower on Jun 13, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, 'cause Boston's ballpark is SOOOOO

much like every other AL ballpark, the slight differences are meaningless.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jun 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What

Fenway would probably make it HARDER on a lefthanded pitcher, not easier. Plus do you understand the concept of VORP and ERA+? They’re park neutral. Try again.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 13, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Because when the Orioles beat Boston,

you always show up around here to respond.

Not.

by zknower on Jun 13, 2008 1:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

True.

It just turns out those three or four times a year the Orioles actually win I’ve got something else to do. Like making NOT jokes, Borat.

Where’s the dildo who said the Celtics were just a team of stars who beat up on the inferior East? Which was retarded then and ultra-retarded now. Didn’t hear from him lately. You dudes spend an awful lot of time ragging on shit and then turtle up pretty easily. Speaking of which, I’m still waiting for an explanation as to how Jeremy Guthrie is “clearly” better than Jon Lester.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 13, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Because

how’s that? Because he doesn’t play in Boston, because he had a lower BAA, because he’s walked 12 less people in 8 more innings, because I like him better, because he’s not a cancer in the clubhouse.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Jun 13, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What do you

want to use? VORP? OK…Guthrie’s is higher.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Jun 13, 2008 3:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wrong

Lester 18.1
Guthrie 14.8

Quite a swing after last night’s mess of an outing. But even if we take last night’s numbers, where Guthrie was ONE run ahead (due to pitching 8 more innings), he is STILL not “clearly” (your words, friend) a better pitcher, which is my bone of contention.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 13, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

re

I guess I’ll wait for a couple bad outings by Lester and we’ll revisit. And you are not my friend.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Jun 13, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And I bet

even then NEITHER ONE WILL BE “CLEARLY” BETTER THAN THE OTHER. Hello?

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 13, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As to not actually get drawn into this argument

I present career statistics. Zero analysis, just raw figures. Draw your own conclusions and then argue some more amon