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Liz up, Luis Luis gone

In case you missed it, that's the scoop. Steve Trachsel will not return to the starting rotation. Instead, Radhames Liz is up and will take the ball tonight.

Luis Hernandez managed to hit a robust .241/.295/.253 in 79 at-bats this season, made several fielding and baserunning boners, and lost his job right quick to Freddie Bynum once Freddie was available for action.

Liz has a 4.05 ERA so far at Norfolk this season, with a hard luck 1-5 record. I'd rather see him than Trachsel any day. I'd rather see him try to hit and play short than Luis, too.

Going back to the shortstops, though, I do want to be really fair. Yes, Luis was terrible. But so was Fahey. So is Bynum (.210/.258/.274). So is Cintron (even counting his .350/.381/.350 line so far). They're all terrible and have no business starting in the majors. But there's also no reason to carry three of them, and they've kept the right two. Cintron is a better fielder and hitter than Hernandez, and Bynum's flexibility and CF availability makes him as useful as someone with a .532 OPS can be.

And from the Orioles team report:

Mora had no specific explanation for the throw, but the Orioles third baseman has been coming up short on a number of throws to first base lately. Mora has nine errors in 50 games at third base. Two came in Friday's game.

Jim Palmer in particular loves to talk about Melvin's great glove. He makes some highlight reel plays. He also screws up a lot. He's Derek Jeter, third baseman, without the star power or pinstripes or rings, though he is a playoff veteran of the first order.

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Hallelujah.

Adios, Luis. We barely liked thee.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Jun 3, 2008 8:54 AM EDT   0 recs

I dunno

I think it’s just about time to give Cintron the job, he’s at least closer to “replacement level” than Bynum. I like having Bynum off the bench for baserunning and defense, but he’s quickly becoming an automatic out at the plate.

by punkrawka on Jun 3, 2008 9:10 AM EDT   0 recs

Good, but I don't get it

Why not let Albers or Johnson start? I’m glad they are bringing up Liz and all; but wouldn’t it make sense to put him in the pen and let one of the two guys who have actually shown they can pitch in the majors start? Most of what I’ve read has Liz more suited for the bullpen anyway.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jun 3, 2008 9:27 AM EDT   0 recs

well

That goes for Albers and Johnson, too.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Jun 3, 2008 11:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd be interested to

see if the quality work Johnson’s done in the ‘pen could possibly serve as a springboard for starting. The dude’s stuff look’s good.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Certainly you knew this coming...

Louie Louie, oh no
YOU gotta go
Aye-yi-yi-yi, I said
Louie Louie, oh baby
YOU gotta go

"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)

by dayzd toe on Jun 3, 2008 11:02 AM EDT   0 recs

Don't let the door hit you in the vagina!

Sorry, I’m watched Knocked Up about 400 billioni times the last week.

Jim Palmer in particular loves to talk about Melvin’s great glove. He makes some highlight reel plays. He also screws up a lot. .

Yeah, but his screwup ratio seems to be skewed FAR more to his throwing than fielding. Fielding wise, Mora is fine. Yes, I’m sure he has boot a ball or two this year but who doesn’t. The O’s are first in defensive efficiency. I imagine Mora has contributed to that before his throwing troubles kicked in.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Jun 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT   0 recs

well OK

I guess when he fails to decide what base to throw it to, that is technically throwing.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Jun 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sort of

Mora can still field, but he can take FOREVER to throw, and then when he does, he throws it to the ballboy or the kid in the stands. And Millar’s hammy being what it is, I’m surprised his torso hasn’t detached from his body trying to catch wild throws from Mora and the rotating cast of shortstops.

I was saying last night that, I like Melvin and think he’s charismatic, but he might be nearing the end of his useful life on this team.

by blawk359 on Jun 3, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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