Twins 7, O's 5: You eat other peoples' lunches? STOP IT!

by SC on Jun 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT Comment 14 comments

OK, seriously. When is Dave Trembley goiing to learn?

Coming into tonight's game, lefties were hitting .391 off of Jamie Walker, with three homers in 10.1 innings. So Trembley brought Walker in with two out and Sarfate having just struck out a couple dudes to face Mauer and Morneau.

Mauer goes yard immediately.

????!!!!

Mauer was also 6-for-9 against Walker.

????!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!!

DAVE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

Believe it or not, I don't think I'm a genius. Hear me out -- I don't even think I'm all that smart. I don't think I see anything that any of you couldn't. But we're not talking about rocket science or "weird stats that no one's ever heard of" here. We're talking about at-bats and hits. And division.

Come on. Come on, man. Just stop it.

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Perhaps the dumbest bullpen move of the year

If not in terms of damage, at least in terms of flat-out brain farts…

"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."

by spike2131 on Jun 4, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm not claiminmg to know it all either

But when a player or two give up outs on a nightly basis via poor base running, that’s not fundamental baseball.

When head-to-head matchups are clearly not in your favor, that is not playing the odds, and it is not fundamental baseball. These numbers are available to anyone. You no longer need the Earl Weaver index cards.

I don’t see good teams (unfortunately the red sox are in my local area) make these blunders with such appalling frequency.

Fundamental baseball goes beyond running some good old fashioned infield drills and fungo flys for the outfielders at the start of each series.

Anyhow, always look on the bright side of life… With every bonehead anti-fundamental play they make that leads to a loss, the O’s move up the draft order totem pole. Hope they can draft guys with brains as well as brawn. This team doesn’t seem to have much of either.

by drj on Jun 4, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Dave Trembley

At least I’m trying to. But the bullpen decisions, the ridiculous aggressive baserunning mistakes, it’s making it hard. Come on, Dave! I want to believe!

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jun 5, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Dave is a good dude

I also thought Perlozzo seemed nice.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jun 5, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Big fan

I’m loving Trembley, though I’m agreeing with Stacey above that the aggressive baserunning is suicide, and the slow decisions to call the bullpen are ruinous.

by blawk359 on Jun 5, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice was my problem with SamPer_fi

Your job as a manager is to whip a bunch of athletes with engorged egos and drastic personalities into shape, to argue with the umpires when they are fucking you, not to be nice.

"You don’t have to be a rocket science" – Jim Palmer.

by CoachOfEarl on Jun 5, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trembley

Isn’t making the umps tremble (I’m going to regret hitting “post” with that terrible pun), but he was pretty hilarious the other night against BoSox when he went out there and drew the lines in the box re: the strike zone.

And I’m sure this has already been discussed, but the ump ejected Trembley way fast, didn’t he??

by blawk359 on Jun 5, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trembly always puts on a great show when he gets kicked out

by spike2131 on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leo

What was it Leo Durocher said about nice guys?

"Killing a Yankee fan -- is that illegal in this state?" -- Homicide Life on the Street

by BirdFanLA on Jun 5, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh

I’ll back up Trembley on this one.

Mauer’s a good hitter and he just beat Walker last night.

I think the fact that lefties are crushing Walker so far this year is a fluke more than anything, and pitcher-batter histories are usually too small of a sample size to mean anything.

by dkdc on Jun 5, 2008 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Huh?

6 for 9 is too small to mean anything to you for a reliever?

Listen, Dave has shown time and time again he has little if any use for statistics (and often knowledge – like when he didn’t know Albers had started several games for the Astros last year). I mean, I like the guy. It’s hard not to. But not paying attention to head to head matchups is simply unprofessional. Particularly when it comes to Walker versus guys like Ortiz and Mauer where he keeps getting smoked.

by Jonny Pops on Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It doesn't mean anything

9 at bats is simply too small of a sample to conclude anything. If you pick the right 9 at bats you can make Luis Hernandez look like a good hitter.

Case in point: David Ortiz has 17 at bats against Jamie Walker

In his first 9 at bats against Jamie Walker, David Ortiz had 5 hits including 3 home runs for a 2.111 OPS.

In his last 8 at bats against Jamie Walker, David Ortiz had just 2 singles, for a .550 OPS.

by dkdc on Jun 5, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mauer’s a good hitter and he just beat Walker last night.

As he usually does.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jun 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Trembley, generally,

but Jesus Christ. I don’t blame him though.

I’m looking at Samuel and John Shelby As a base coach, your ONLY job is to make sure guys don’t get picked off and run down. I couldn’t manage a major league team, but I could do that. Take away all the baserunning blunders, and Walker can afford to look like an asshole, because he’s got even more insurance.

And Walker does look like an asshole a little too often. he’s been the weak link in the bullpen, and looking a lot like melvin mora, which is to say, sometimes saving runs, sometimes giving them out like candy.

1933 was a bad year

by Senatorrosewater on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs