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Gameday Thread: O's (30-30) @ Blue Jays (32-31)

Baltimore Orioles at Toronto Blue Jays, Jun 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT


.500! Must be a...peach of a hand. Game's at 1. Sadly the Jays won't wear those sharp throwbacks.

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  Today's Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA HR BB K W-L
Jeremy Guthrie - RH 13 83.0 3.58 1.23 .243 11 24 53 2-6
A.J. Burnett - RH 12 (13) 77.0 4.32 1.40 .250 5 34 73 5-5

About time for Burnett's injury, innit?

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Burnett can opt out after this year

He’ll probably have his second good year as a starter.

by pipkin on Jun 7, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Trembley

I know they won last night and all but I’m sick of the running yourself out of innings attitude. He cost them two runs last night by sending Bynum with one out with Roberts up. Roberts then singles and moves to third on Markakis single. Bynum should have scored here. But NO. Now there are two outs and Mora hits a fly ball to left that Roberts could have scored on making it 3-2 Jays at this point. Can we get a counter on the front page (like the Cabrera QS counter) on how many games Trembley loses for this club? They aren’t going to continue hitting HRs at this pace so it is going to catch up to them at some point.

I've got two nickels and a paradigm. - RWH

by BPinOK on Jun 7, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Bynum has shown he should never ever have a green light.

The guy is not good on the basepaths, even f he does have a little speed.

by drj on Jun 7, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally

Adam Bomb is batting second.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jun 7, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

and getting the bat taken out of his hand

for no good reason. Yeah, I know we just scored a run. still, I follow the Book of Earl: never trade an out for a run unless you know that one run will win the game. Sacrifice bunts are stupid, unnecessary outs.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 7, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice AB for payton.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam Jones owns all of centerfield.

I love his speed.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

There was an AP report that Guts fainted on the bench when he realized he had three [3] runs to work with.

But they brought him around and he went back out for the 3rd.

For heaven’s sake, don’t get him any more, people!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Burnett looks like he's settled in now.

This might be it for run support while he’s still in.

Pitch count is at 81 after 4 innings tho’.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

siddown. Stairs.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Jays talk team is now talking about Joba

apparently they didn’t get the message not nobody give a shit.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm just waiting for the articles to show up:

JOBA DATING LINDSEY LOHAN.

That’s all we’d need.

by Y Not on Jun 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The universe may explode

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jun 7, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, Quiroz bought that strike! Nice K, both ends!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The Orioles had Jones slotted in the second spot of the batting order Saturday, but Trembley said that was due to a day off for third baseman Melvin Mora more than it was a reward for hot hitting.

“Mora will hit third and Nicky will stay hitting second unless I take somebody out of the lineup,” said Trembley. “Then I’ll juggle it and put the best lineup I can out there. I like what Nick’s doing in the two-hole, and I like what Melvin’s done with men on base. Melvin’s driven in some big runs for us with men on base. He’s hit very well.”

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

....from the news feed on the O's site.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay Payton!

Once again the Greatest Man. Go figure.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

FUN!

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

blam! Theres your run support.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

7 runs for Guthrie??

What in god’s name is going on here?

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jun 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

A lot of smart at bats. AJ not gettit where he wants it.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happly wrong about AJ settling in.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Jun 7, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

3rd place here we come!

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

and yes...

if by some chance they lose, you can all blame it on me for saying that

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

7-1! Somebody check on Guts, he may have gone into shock...

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got back from kid's soccer

Did they have to resuscitate Guthrie in the dugout after all these runs scored?

by drj on Jun 7, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

The amazing thing

Is that all three outs in this inning were totally tagged. Wilkerson did a lot of backtracking on all of them.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

well this IS one of the best homerun hitting teams in the AL

sounds wierd huh

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure does

Amber must be praying to the right gods.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, stupid technical question time:

My MLB.com connection is coming in GREAT for this game. I swear the picture seems sharper and, no question about it, the full screen variant is, for the first time, actually using the full screen, i.e. the whole available image on the laptop.

Any idea WHY? It can’t have anything to do with the CBC feed, can it?

Anyone, anyone, Buhler?

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

5 K's

It’s a rare treat to see an O’s starter rack up the punchouts.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Atta boy, Nicky

You are a credit to both the Orioles and my fantasy team.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

My friends, I think its time to permanently reintroduce...

Nick MarkisckASS!

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

And his mascot, Hopalong Kevbo

Over .250 and leading the team in homers!

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is beautiful

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah , comfortable lead

Happened once before against the Yankees. Otherwise, not so much…

by drj on Jun 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guts cruisin'. It's a beautiful thing.

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

We want Armando!

Give us the head of Armando Benitez!

by Lothar on Jun 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

nah lets save him for tomorrow

we might need him

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was DFAd

before the game.

I know it’s a big loss for all of us.

by Steve. on Jun 7, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOO

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jun 7, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rough weekend

For ex-O’s pitchers, huh?

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok time for me to go be productive a little bit

lets finish this off. enjoy all.

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 7, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Be a mench, Kevin.

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Nick it hitting the snot out of the ball.

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jun 7, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

And he's making it look so...easy. You want to ask Why not just *always* do this?

Sort of like watching Bedard pitch some games last year. There’s something about “grooved” pitching and hitters who are “seeing” the ball well that’s similarly…natural. And deceptively easy-looking.

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aye.

I can’t wait to see the highlights of this game. Dude is freaking dialed in.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Jun 7, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trachsel.

Gotta get him some work somewhere, I guess.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Jun 7, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

It used to be...

You could just have the manager throw a punch at him. But ever since Billy Martin died, things haven’t been the same.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What an asshole!

God I hate Trachsel. He has a negative affect on the entire team.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jun 7, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trax HAS to be released, right?

This is what the new MacPhail regine is all about, right? No more trotting Jim Brower and Russ Ortiz out game after game. Right?

by drj on Jun 7, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I know the defense let him down a bit, but this is all Trachsel's fault.

If fucking Sherrill has to pitch in this game Trax should not only be released but possibly beaten as well.

by O'sFan21 on Jun 7, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

When you can't be trusted

with an eight run lead you are garbage and surely don’t belong in pro baseball.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty good sign....

When you can only go in game your team is winning by EIGHT and you STILL manage to make the manager sweat…

It’s time for a new career path.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jun 7, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Idea...

never let Alex Cintron play first base.

Millar or Huff probably wouldn’t have let the ball fly by them like that.

by getxstoked on Jun 7, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Um

That was Sarfate covering.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one that Roberts sailed...

that should have been the first out, and was an IF single instead

by getxstoked on Jun 7, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mistake

Yeah, Millar might have been able to stretch it out.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen

Let’s not lose sight of the big picture. Third place to boot!

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Trachsel is

Armando Benitez’s mommy.
Even so, it’s great to have a cushion like 9-1 that even he (or she) couldn’t piss away.

by Lothar on Jun 7, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He could have

If they hadn’t yanked him.

by Brotz13 on Jun 7, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

G'night, you Over .500 Overachievers...

Today, Canada. Tomorrow, we rule the world.

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 7, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

So much is Birdland right now,

I don’t have time to make graphics for it all.

"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)

by dayzd toe on Jun 7, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

so, I missed it..

but can someone explain to me how matt stairs got a SB off Quiroz, yet he threw out Rios? I cannot believe Matt Stairs got a stolen base.

Wow.

by Y Not on Jun 7, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

HAH!

David DeJesus just homered off of Rivera.. Royals retake the lead 11-10 in the 9th.

The sad part…. we couldn’t hit a Rivera pitch if he was throwing grapefruits.

by Y Not on Jun 7, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The sadder part

The Yankees came back and won. That loss HURTS.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 7, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus, i just saw that

poor royals fans. I can’t think of a greater insult than an Orioles fan saying that to any other fan. (Maybe from a Pirates fan?)

by Y Not on Jun 7, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say...

hearing it from a Nats fan might be worse.

by getxstoked on Jun 7, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welp, everybody should really enjoy being over .500-- all morning! Walk around IHoP all cocky or something.

‘Cause at 1:05, we face Roy “Gets Every Homer Call Ever Invented and Then Some” Halladay…at home. ‘Course, we are putting an undefeated pitcher up against him. [Sigh.]

Really, we b#tch and moan a lot about the NYBosawkees getting calls, especially at home, and I think there really is something to that. Not that umpires set out to favor them, but the constant media drumming of the litany we all know —marquee franchises, historic venues, “great traditions”, yatta-yatta-yatta -- has to have a cumulative effect, and umpires are human (take a look at Ron Luciano’s books). No doubt the Orioles got some (repeat, some) calls via “tradition” during their 30 years of consistent success (and Earl was probably a net plus on that score, although umps were, for obvious reasons, not well disposed toward him, so to speak).

OK, granted all that, I have still never seen anybody pork up on home cookin’ the way Halladay consistently does at the Politeness Dome. I have no idea why or how he gets umps to do his business , but it’s almost funny. Just watch today, OK, and see if you notice anything unusually “one-way elastic” about the strike zone.

Right, in other news:

1. Is Trax on a bus? No?!? Judas Priest, can somebody call the Canadian SPCA and have him put to sleep or something?

2. Speaking of the universe exploding and moaning b#tches, I see from the press that Hillary Clinton gave a “gracious” concession speech yesterday. Um, nothing about a primary campaign whose “plan” borrowed in equal parts from George Wallace, the Three Stooges and the Hindenburg. Nope, now we’re all “gracious.” Don’t ya love American politics? Nothin’ else like it, anywhere.

OK, Liz, get out there and, y’know, steal some calls. Hahahahahaha. Go O’s!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 8, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

far, far away in russia?

"Don't worry, the fans don't start booing until July." - Earl Weaver

by daveh873 on Jun 8, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

As Russians say, Senk yew vetty mach. As for Roch: I keel him, I eat his childrens!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jun 8, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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