Off-Topic: What are you listening to?!
I normally try to listen to a whole bunch of albums every year, even if I don't care about them, really. I like hearing stuff. I like to be able to discuss the new Whitesnake -- oh yes! The new Whitesnake.
Anyway, here's the list of what I've gotten recently.
Have Listened To
Coldplay - Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends
Counting Crows - Saturday Nights and Sunday Mornings
Elvis Costello & The Imposters - Momofuku
Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)
Everclear - The Vegas Years
The Fratellis - Here We Stand
Gnarls Barkley - The Odd Couple
Jakob Dylan - Seeing Things
Jewel - Perfectly Clear
Lil' Wayne - Tha Carter III
M83 - Saturdays = Youth
The Mountain Goats - Heretic Pride
Mudcrutch - Mudcrutch (Tom Petty dicking around with his first band to fabulous results)
Old 97's - Blame it on Gravity
R.E.M. - Accelerate
The Raconteurs - Consolers of the Lonely
The Roots - Game Theory (slept on this, it's excellent)
Scarlett Johansson - Anywhere I Lay My Head
Tapes 'N Tapes - Walk It Off
Ted Nugent - Sweden Rocks (umpteenth live album, it's pretty bad -- you had lead singers for a reason, Ted-o)
The Watson Twins - Fire Songs
Weezer - Weezer (red)
Whitesnake - Good to be Bad
Have Yet to Listen
Aimee Mann - @#%&*! Smilers
Alanis Morissette - Flavors of Entanglement
Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold
Baby Charles - Baby Charles
Billy Bragg & Wilco - Mermaid Avenue, Vol. 1
Billy Bragg & Wilco - Mermaid Avenue, Vol. 2
Blind Melon - For My Friends
Del tha Funkee Homosapien - Eleventh Hour
The Dresden Dolls - No, Virginia
Duffy - Rockferry
Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
Gemma Hayes - The Hollow of Morning
Horrorpops - Kiss Kiss Kill Kill
Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Sunday at Devil Dirt
Levon Helm - American Son
Levon Helm - Dirt Farmer
Matt Costa - Unfamiliar Faces
Ministry - Cover Up
Phantom Planet - Raise the Dead
The Roots - Rising Down
Sun Kil Moon - April
The Ting Tings - We Started Nothing
Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
Willie Nelson - Moment of Forever
Anyone got some recommendations? Anyone been listening to stuff? Speak now!
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and for the record
Bar none the worst album I’ve listened to is the Everclear covers debacle.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
And I like Everclear, too
That’s a shame.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
I used to
They haven’t been good in a decade. And they were only briefly good. But that also goes for Weezer, I suppose.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 9, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
weezer
so true. really, the blue album and pinkerton are basically perfect records, but everything else is a few decent singles surrounded by filler.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
I actually like the green album better than the blue album, partially because it doesn’t include “Surf Wax America.” But right now it looks like Maladroit is their benchmark.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
Disagree
Blue Album all the way. Pinkerton is top notch, too. But all my chips are on “Say It Ain’t So” as their best. And the Deftones version is pretty tight, too.
The Good Life, Pinkerton.
Shakin’ booty, makin’ sweet love all the night
It’s time I got back to the Good Life
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
No Sharp,
no Weezer. That’s an exaggeration, but not by much. With him, they were pretty damn great. Without him, they’re another generic rock/altern band.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Scarlett Johansson sings?
"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones
oh she sings
She sings Tom Waits songs. Rather poorly. Overproduced by the guy from TV on the Radio.
Really it’s not that bad. You listen to it and think, “Why the fuck was this made?”
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 9, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
ha!
yeah, i heard her version of get behind the mule today. pointless. 1/2 the attraction of tom waits is the bizarro production and arrangements.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
As Ben Fold sang...
“I take the checks and face the facts
that some producer with computers
fixes all my shitty tracks…”
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
No way...
Dave Sitek? I knew that guy back in high school, he’s from my hometown. I feel kinda bad he’s working for this goofball though. I liked some choice tracks of his & TV on the Radio, but this is kind of embarrassing to get involved with a vanity project like this.
don't feel bad
He probably made more money to produce Scarlett than he did for his entire own critically-acclaimed album.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 10, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I love TVOTR
but he did a shit job on the Foals album. I think he tries to make too bands sound like TVOTR.
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
And to further expound...
...on Scarlet Jomama, just because it’s late night and I feel like it, what the fuck happened to this chick? She’s like Bizarro Sean Penn. She started off as a respected actress in artsified movies at the beginning of her career and has gradually drifted into increasingly stupid ass roles, culminating with an engagement to that fat suit teen movie actor guy, Ryan Reynolds. And now a dumbass album? I don’t get it. Did she fire her old agent or something?
Scarlett
Her recent stuff isn’t all that bad. The Prestige is perfectly respectable. And I’ve heard the The Other Boleyn Girl is decent. Match Point is a Woody Allen flim, which despite whatever you think of him is a prestigious gig. As far as the album goes, I personally don’t like it but I think it’s a “serious” album. She can’t sing is the big problem. But the music itself terrible. It’s certainly far better than any other celebrity turned singers albums like Eddie Murphy, Bruce Willis, Lindsay Lohan or whoever.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
bah!
a guy i record w/ has a truly staggering collection of vanity records. leonard nimoy? check. telly savalas? check. shatner? check. even ted knight. my favorite may be a record of dramatic dylan interpretations by sebastian cabot.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 10, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I almost bought...
a still sealed copy of Telly Savalas’ record the other day (why would anyone have opened it). Mr. “Player’s Club” is certainly in the running for the title of “worst album ever.” Just couldn’t lay out the green, even as a joke.
There is an absolutely revolting video for Telly’s version of “If” on youtube (check for it if you dare). It’s the most horrifying thing I have ever seen in my life, and I have watched a man bleed to death.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
how much?
it ranks oh-so-high on the unintentional comedy scale.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 10, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think...
around $10. If it were $3 to $5, I probably would have bit. Somehow it’s just less funny if you pay $10 for it.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
no doubt.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 10, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that it's "serious"...
only makes it worst in my estimation. Starlets who have no musical talent are better off issuing the kind of fluff Lindsay Lohan puts out. Trying to do a “serious,” “artistic” album with absolutely no discernable musical talent (or ability to control pitch) reeks of self-absorption. I would much rather hear Eddie Murphy sing “my girl likes to party all the time” than Scarlett Johansson have a go at Tom Waits.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
Scarlett
Starlets who have no musical talent are better off issuing the kind of fluff Lindsay Lohan puts out.
I’ll never fault ambition…. even if misplaced. For example, I won’t fault a talentless minor leaguer who is shooting for a career in teh bigs.
Trying to do a "serious," "artistic" album with absolutely no discernable musical talent (or ability to control pitch) reeks of self-absorption.
She could just trying to expand our boundaries. I don’t think that’s a mark of self-absorption. I don’t blame her for trying even if she doesn’t have much singing chops. If she loves singing, then she can make all the not so good albums she wants.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
See...
I would fault a talentless minor leaguer for shooting for a career in the big leagues. If he has no talent for baseball, he ought to recognize it and work hard at something he might be good at. Chances are he could put out better music than Scarlett Johansson.
Have you actually heard the album? I have, and it is so bad I find it hard to believe that it is going to expand anybody’s boundaries. I’m also not convinced that she tried so hard either. She’s famous and she can make an album, so she did. She also thought it would increase her hip credibility if she did an album of Tom Waits songs.
I have friends who are musicians, and for them “trying” to make a living in music involved years and years spent studying and practicing music, not using their connections to cut a vanity project.
Loved her in Ghost World though…
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
ScarJo
I would fault a talentless minor leaguer for shooting for a career in the big leagues. If he has no talent for baseball, he ought to recognize it and work hard at something he might be good at.
On one hand, I want to sound like a disney movie, “You gotta follow your dreams!” If you people want to live that way while ignoring reality, I’m not going to say anything. This will sound contradictory (such is life), but I find such delusion admirable. On the other hand, it’s not how I would personally live my life, I’m more a realist. But if a minor leaguer loves baseball and dreams of playing of playing in the bigs, cool beans. He might not make it to the bigs, but least he’s doing what he loves.
Have you actually heard the album?
Of course, I’m not Maxim magazine or anything. I think it’s an OK album. I like a couple of tracks. I like Anywhere I Lay My Head and I Don’t Want to Grow up, but overall the album is just blah. Her voice is just too monotone and a lot of songs just kind of drag. Unlike most celeb albums, I think she tried to do something a creative and out of the box, but she just failed. The album didn’t quite live up to her ambition. Her song choice is kind of curious. I’m a huge of early Tom Waits (I guess everything pre-Rain Dogs) and she did almost nothing from that era. She did stay away from the obvious “hits” like Ole 55 which I thought was good.
I have friends who are musicians, and for them "trying" to make a living in music involved years and years spent studying and practicing music, not using their connections to cut a vanity project.
Like I said, she might have just made the album because she’s passionate about music. Besides, I won’t fault her for using her connections and power to make an album, That’s what everybody does.
Loved her in Ghost World though…
Lost in Translation is what sealed it for me.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
I'ts not what you know
It’s WHO you know, right?
"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)
Just listened
to a few tracks on the album. What I find most striking is the quality of the production’s contrast with how bad her voice is. She seems just dead in the water on these tracks. It’s like someone hired Vittorio Storaro to shoot a film starring Jaime Pressly.
I think...
that’s part of what sticks in my craw about this whole project. It reminds me of Charles Foster Kane building an enormous, opulent opera house to showcase the singing of his supremely untalented wife. There’s just a kind of Hollywood hubris at work here that I find very unappealing.
Anyway, I don’t want to pick on Scarlett too much. I don’t have any beef with her in general.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
I heard
that Boleyn thing was crappy.
Match Point was horrible. That other Woody Allen thing she was in was even worse – and despite his former reputation, I’m not sure how much good it does anymore for a performer, and particularly a young attractive actress, to be cast in a Woody Allen movie anymore. Too much baggage there.
Let’s not forget she was in The Nanny Diaries, which looks a film part an actress who needs the work takes, not one on top of her game.
Oh apparently she’s been cast in another Woody Allen movie, Vicky Christina Barcelona…oy vey is mir.
Plus we have “He’s Just Not That Into You” with Jennifer Aniston and Drew Barrymore to look forward to – produced by none other than Drew Barrymore. And set in Baltimore of all places.
woody allen
His movies may have taken a down turn (coindentally, I just watched parts of Annie Hall the other day, which is a very fine movie), but his movies are a prestigious gig. Any Hollywood actor would JUMP at the chance at an Allen movies. Boleyn Girl at least wasn’t a fluff movie, but I can’t defend Nanny Diaries. And I personally dug the Prestige. In any case, i don’t think Scarlett has jumped the shark yet, not even close.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
She's not only
jumped the shark. She’s landed in the water and is on the verge of becoming a tasty fish snack…with her new fiance in that fat suit being the main course, obviously.
she'll be divorced soon enough...
jumping the shark with an upcoming allen movie… i’m sure a lot of actors would love to jump the shark.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
see, i agree...
you can fault the finished product, but a lot of her movies of the last few years probably looked great on paper. totally concur on woody allen pics and even tend to think match point was solid; prestige (hey, the memento guy!); black dahlia (hey, brian depalma)...i dunno. as for nanny diaries, i don’t fault a motherfucker for wanting to make a buck.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 10, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought The Prestige
was Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman, neither of whom was in Memento. That was Guy Pearce.
I freakin’ LOVE that movie. The scene where Carrie-Anne Moss hides the pens is the scariest thing I’ve ever seen on film, because I live that exact fear every damn day with ADD.
Gotta find a pen, don’t forget…
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
yeah, but...
the director was the director of memento. pantoliano is so good in that, too.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Nolan, right?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
yep...
i don’t personally think anything he’s done since memento touches that movie as a soup to nuts project, but he makes a visually interesting picture and always seems to get good people to work for him, so he must be doing something right.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 11, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Match Point
was great. The Prestige too. You know what sucked was The Illusionist.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jun 10, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yes...
illusionist was weak.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 11, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, SC,
did you just seriously tell me that Scarlett Jo sings Tom Waits songs? Dammit. Like I needed more incentive to dump my girlfriend for her.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
you can call it singing
And yes.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 18, 2008 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Pseudo-singing
Not as bad as Ashlee Simpson and all these other vacuous starlets being bolstered by pitch correction, but Scar is buried underneath effects just the same. David Sitek (TV On The Radio) is about as “magical” (that’s sarcasm) a producer as Brendan O’Brien. If you like your stuff hacked up and coughed out, he’s your man.
yeah...
it maybe singing, but that doesn’t make it any good!
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 18, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
the singing isn't good
but her interpretations of Waits is the biggest problem. Bad singing in itself can be overcome. Liz Phair can’t sing for crap but her first album is terrific. And then there’s Bob Dylan. Tom Waits is a great song writer but Scarlett just doesn’t do anything interesting with his songs. A lot of monotone babble with over produced synth stuff.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
well, there's a difference b/w...
having a bad voice and being a bad singer. there are also matters of inflection, phrasing, etc.
...and i love dylan and waits as singers!
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 18, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, that's much better
Definitely agree, her voice is bad and style of singing is bad as well. Dylan has a bad voice but i enjoy his singing quite often due to his inventive phrasing like Sub. Homesick Blues.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
Rerelease
Of Exile in Guyville next month, if not this month. On LP and CD with a special DVD.
cool beans
Her label thought about putting out a 10 year anniversay edition but they nixed it. Hopefully the new edition will have some cool live stuff and her early demo tracks. I used to have a live version of Flower where she brought up random girls from the audience to sing along with her. It was pretty hot.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
Mine
Bill Moyers’ PBS podcast
Walt Disney World Today podcast (Hey, we go in August!)
Apocalyptica – Worlds Collide
The Sword – Gods of the Earth
Dokken – lots and lots of Dokken
Pantera – Great Southern Trendkill & Far Beyond Driven
Beatallica – All You Need is Blood (English version)
And the usual Slayer, Metallica, with Unearth thrown in every now and then. Love that tune “Giles”. And Bullet For My Valentine, too.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
do you like Mastodon?
Just a question. They’re my favorite metal band of the past…I dunno, decade or so?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 9, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a big fan
Singer’s voice doesn’t do it for me, and everything seems like it’s 6-9 minutes long. I’ll take that from “Master” era Metallica, but not some band I’m just trying out. It would be like starting with Rush with 2112. The couple of songs I have heard just don’t do it for me.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
I'm with you here
I got “Blood Mountain” without hearing it (which I rarely do), based on about a dozen recommendations from people who were not collaborating at all. I think I listened to it twice. I do like playing the downloadable Mastodon song in Guitar Hero III though.
One bad thing (among many) about the Wii
No downloadable songs.
:(
But GH: Metallica next year! Woo-hoo!
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
I got outvoted by my kids and wife
I wanted a XBox360, but noooooooooooooooo….........
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Nothing...
if you like graphics from 2002….and no downloadable content.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
9:30
Saw Mastodon at 9:30 Club. They put on a good show. Not too much talkin, lots of rockin.
Also like the Deftones, though Chino’s voice live is a bit nasty. In terms of live metal bands, I’m a big fan of Hatebreed (one of the most exciting live bands I have seen), Tool, Lamb of God, and Disturbed.
Excellent choices
Although I think Hatebreed is pretty much retarded when I listen to their studio recordings, it’s great pit music. And I love all the other bands you mentioned.
Hatebreed...
Is the good kind of retarded.
I mean, if you can listen to “Doomsayer” and not want to punch someone in the face, you’re broken inside.
Ministry
Let me know how the new Ministry is
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
If you think the idea of Ministry doing “Radar Love” and “What a Wonderful World” is interesting, give it a shot. I liked it a lot. It was loud and pummeling. “Roadhouse Blues” is a stampede.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 9, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see that.
Their version of “Lay Lady Lay” was seriously underrated, I thought.
At least by die-hard Ministry fans.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Nice!
Love the metal. How about Dio? And if you are interested in local, check out Darsombra. It’s on Public Guilt, and mostly experimental noise-ish stuff, but worth showing some love since it’s from town.
Not so much on the Dio
I was in my Ratt/Motley Crue/Iron Maiden/Judas Priest/Black Sabbath early high school “rebel” phase when he got big, and hated the keyboards he had. NO KEYBOARDS! Loved me some Dokken, though. Still can’t tell you why.
And define local. ‘Cause I’m a good 2.5 hours from Baltimore in Salisbury.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Dokken has a new one
If you tell me it’s any good, I’ll get it. I swear to God. I won’t agree with you, probably, but I’ll get it. Swear to God!
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 10, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Is it Don AND George? Because if it’s not, it’s not Dokken.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Then it ain't Dokken
Mr. Scary is DA MAN.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
but...
can’t be rokken w/o don.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 11, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
George rocks...
Don pouts.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Local
... meaning Baltimore. But if you’re in Salisbury, there’s a little band called Goatbag. Yeah, that’s what I said. Saw them here in Baltimore. Lots of grimoire and iconoclasticism, but the music was good, anyway.
I have heard SO much about Goatbag
from my students, I’m almost afraid to see them – half the crowd would ask me why I haven’t graded their homework yet!
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Do you really think
that half of that crowd would care IF you graded their homework at all?
"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)
I teach 9th grade
Serious cynicism doesn’t kick in until 11th. I get just garden-variety apathy, usually. It’s the best most 15 year-olds can do.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
hmmm...
avett brothers-four thieves gone; emotionalism
wilco-being there
bob dylan-nashville skyline
the kinks-something else by…
i also saw the waco brothers last week and it was the best show i’ve seen in ages.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
I've had these albums for a couple years now...
But they’re at the top of my rotation at the moment:
The Arcade Fire – Funeral
Pearl Jam – Pearl Jam (that’s their 2006 album)
Finally going to see Pearl Jam live at Verizon Center in two weeks.
ADDED
Alestorm – Captain Morgan’s Revenge (pirate metal! this will SUCK)
Band of Horses – Cease to Begin
Children of Bodom – Blooddrunk
Flogging Molly – Float
Guilty Simpson – Ode to the Ghetto
Martha Wainwright – I Know You’re Married but I’ve Got Feelings Too
Ringo Starr – Liverpool 8
Tift Merritt – Another Country
Van Morrison – Keep it Simple
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
Children of Bodom????
You might as well have listed Cradle of Filth – biggest posers on the current scene. Yuck!
Sorry, got some real hatred for those two bands. And this from a person who actually likes Lacuna Coil.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
I don’t like CoB either. But like I said, I’ll listen to just about anything to have an informed opinion about why I like or dislike it.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 10, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Facts again!
Why let facts get in the way of a good opinion?
:)
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Band of Horses
Have you ever checked out their old band, Carissa’s Wierd? Total Codeine/Red House Painters style slowcore. Very good stuff.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Jun 10, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Lately...
Municipal Waste – The Art of Partying, Bay Area-style thrash with some hardcore crossover appeal, think Suicidal plus Slayer, sweet live show, too, boogie board stage diving, circle pits, and over-the-top awesome all-around.
Dayton Family – Family Feud, 2006-ish era thugged out rap from Michigan, Three 6 Mafia would be a decent comparison, I suppose…
Ignite – Our Darkest Days, melodic hardcore punk, imagine Rise Against minus the really annoying fans
The Famine – The Raven and the Reaping – Do you like Pantera? Do you like bands that kick ass? You should probably listen to this.
The Bouncing Souls – How I Spent My Summer Vacation, um, really, this is the perfect summer record.
Comeback Kid – Broadcasting, quality hardcore
Weezer – Red, I love Weezer, saw them on the comeback tour ages ago with the Get Up Kids, and they ruled. Dudes acting like GUK were Pantera, not so much.
If you want a better run down -
www.last.fm/user/xonetruedesirex
I do like Pantera and bands that kick ass. I’ll get on that.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 9, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Listening to?
Honestly, I’m not listening to a goddamn thing right now. I was listening to a shitload of Latin music when I was down in Mexico recently, but I have no idea what any of it was called. The shit kicked ass though, especially some of salsa and the Cuban stuff.
ever notice...
that while in Mexico the latin music sounds better?
Then when you come home all you hear is that Mexican polka over and over. I don’t know what the fuck that song is, but it’s like a law that they have to play it at least once a day.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Sometimes
it is tedious here in the States true. My theory, and this specifically applies to Baltimore and 99.1 down there, is that there’s a much more specific immigrant class that comes to the States – and especially in Baltimore it’s a very new community, so they have a focused type of music that’s popular. Whereas in Mexico you’re going to have a wider range of social classes and thus more diverse music from within the culture available on the radio. But this is truly just a shot in the dark seeing as my Spanish wouldn’t even qualify as serviceable beyond ordering dinner and finding out where Los Banos are.
Word
Well, I miss the old HFS with Damien and Weasel and the good music. That – what was it Inifinity? Clear Channel? – Modern Rock version they did later on can kiss my ass a couple of times.
While I was in Mexico last summer
I heard a lot of great Latin indie rock and dance, but I haven’t been able to track down most of it.
The worst thing I heard/saw was here. This hit video played on the TV on the ferry to Cozumel. Hilarious shit.
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
Well
For me it’s been a steady diet of the new Disturbed CD. I would discuss here, but you can know whether you’d like this disc based on the last one. For me, that’s a good thing.
Also in the mix:
10 Years – Division (It’s like a less-crappy Incubus, or a less-pretentious A Perfect Circle)
Ashes Divide – Keep Telling Myself It’s Alright (the lead guitarist from A Perfect Circle gone solo, really quite good)
36 Crazyfists – The Tide and Its Takers (but their last disc was much better than this one)
Life of Agony – Broken Valley (I was late to the party on this one, but I’m enjoying it so far)
...and that’s most of my recently-obtained stuff.
Lotsa shit....
Lee “Scratch” Perry “Arkology”
Erykah Badu “New Amerykah pt. 1”
Cypress Hill, first 3 albums (memories of past summers, and DJ Muggs is still an underrated producer)
Guilty Simpson “Ode to the Ghetto”
Madlib “Beat Konducta” series
P-Funk (always!)
Portishead “Third”
Tons of other shit….
Game Theory slept on? I agree it’s dope, but that was like one of the most hyped records of ‘06
*I* slept on it
I know it was hyped as shit. I just didn’t get around to listening to it until now.
Cypress Hill never worked for me save for the occasional song. Even when I binged on hip-hop I just could not get into CH. I like Muggs’ production, though, even if I found it really repetitive at times. It created the atmosphere they were going for.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 10, 2008 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
The Muggs beats have always been the draw for me w/ Cypress….B Real and especially Sen Dog are some cut rate MCs, but Cypress is a good time
been bumpin some Three 6 Mafia lately too (When The Smoke Clears and Da Unbreakables).....I’m mostly on some throwback shit right now when it comes to hip hop, there ain’t much new material I’m feeling
Going off
I love these off-topic posts. These are the ones I keep coming back to.
Ghostface Killah, “Fishscale”
Gaslight Anthem, “Sink or Swim” & “Senor and the Queen”
EU’s Arse/Impact split
Sera Cahoone, “Only As the Day is Long”
Shook Ones, “Sixteen”
The celebrity-made record of the year is the She & Him record. Ryan from the Loss Column and I were comping it with the ScarJo record…no contest.
And, hey, a little help from the peanut gallery. Should I skip next Wednesday’s game for Mark Kozelek at the Ottobar, or do I really want that ‘83 hat more?
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Jun 10, 2008 9:09 AM EDT reply actions
Fishscale is hot shit
“Shakey Dog” and “The Champ” are maybe my two favorite Ghost songs.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
Nothing new for me lately, I just haven’t had the time to seek out new stuff. But I have been enjoying my stock.
Nada Surf – The Weight Is a Gift
Depeche Mode – Songs of Faith & Devotion
The Cure – Mixed Up
The Fugees – The Score
The White Stripes – Elephant
I saw the Cure down in VA recently for the 2nd time. They went sans synth, which I thought would be a mistake, but they then amazed everyone with how well they can rock out. Just an amazing, amazing band. What a great show.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
I would pay to see
The Cure without synths. As long as they didn’t play “Why Can’t I Be You”.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
In the words of Kyle Brofloski
“Disintigration is the best album ever!”
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
The song on The Crow soundtrack...
“Burn,” is by far the best song I have ever heard by them.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Crow soundtrack
Love NIN’s Dead Souls. I just llistening to a live version of Dead Souls the other (the Joy Division version) and it was pretty damn good.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
Here's how mainstream I am
I loved STP’s “Big Empty”.
Strangely enough, “The Badge” by Pantera is one of my LEAST favorite song son the CD. Not a strong effort from them. Repetitive, boring verse riff, phoned-in vocal from Phil. Really disappointing.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Give me The Crow: City of Angels any day!
The unreleased Deftones track on there kicks ass, with surprisingly decent contributions from the likes of Toadies, Bush and Filter.
Yesssss
You are so right. “Teething”. I love that riff. Another good soundtrack is Escape From LA (Kurt Russell). Tool, Orange 9MM if I remember correctly, a bunch of good ones.
The only Nada Surf song I know...
I’m head of the class
I’m popular
I’m a quarter back
I’m popular
My mom says I’m a catch
I’m popular
I’m never last picked
I got a cheerleader chick
"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)
Are there any others?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
apparently
there’s a whole slew of them… since that one. Who knew?
"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)
The Bee Gees
And maybe later I’ll be rocking out to some Manilow. But only the early stuff… I don’t really care for anything that came after Barry’s wild experimental stage.
"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."
Bo Diddley
Since he died, I’ve broken out a lot of my Bo Diddley records. The man was an original, and truly great.
On the iPod recently:
Mudhoney – The Lucky Ones
Otis Redding – Otis Blue
Solomon Burke – Proud Mary: The Bell Sessions
Nick Lowe – Nick The Knife
Super Furry Animals – Mwng
Vampire Weekend – s/t
Elvis Costello – MOMOFUKU
Rainy Day – s/t
The Go Betweens – 16 Lovers Lane
George Jones – She Thinks I Still Care: The Complete United Artists Recordings
V/A – The Johnny Cash TV Show
Big Star – Third
Shuggie Otis – Inspiration Information
Sly & The Family Stone – Small Talk
Trotsky Icepick – Baby
Love – Forever Changes
R.E.M. – Accelerate & So Much Younger Then (live bootleg)
The Brothers Johnson – Right On Time
Looking forward to the reissue of Dennis Wilson’s Pacific Ocean Blue next week.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
Is it a bad thing
that I like Thorogood’s version of Who Do You Love so much better than the original? Does that make me a bad person?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
You are forgiven
I actually like The Scorpions version of I Can’t Explain
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
Yeah, kinda it does...
In all seriousness, I’m attracted to weirdos and iconoclasts, and Bo Diddley-despite having had some hits early in his career-was deeply strange. Early critics of rock and roll who called it “jungle music” were not far off in Bo Diddley’s case. His music was primitive and passionate, but not everybody’s cup of tea. So I can totally understand why many people would prefer a more “mainstream” version of what he did. (I realize that sounds condescending, but I don’t mean it that way at all).
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
I just love Thorogood's guitar sound vs Bo's
Raw, nasty, with a bite that missing in the original.
And I’m used to the “mainstream” label – there’s a lot of metal I don’t know because I stick to what I find commercially available. It’s a wonder I ever found bands like The Sword or Unearth with my musical habits.
And Thorogood is a Delaware homebody, so I gotta support the locals. In Salisbury, we ID a lot more with DE than MD most of the time.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Bo's guitar...
was NASTY. Bo’s guitar defined NASTY. Also, keep in mind Bo Diddley invented this sound. No Bo Diddley, no heavy metal (seriously).
Check out, this clip on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzn7VyoqEw&eurl=http://floweringtoilet.blogspot.com/
NASTY. And the dude could dance too!
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
I guess I like a little more sustain in my guitar sound
I grew up on 80s metal – everything went through 6 pedals and every note could last an hour. Gots to have that Marshall stack distortion when the volume’s on 10…
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Great clip, though
That WAS awesome.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
me.
Roisin Murphy – Overpowered
Elle Milano – Acres of Dead Space Cadets
The Books Elusive – Perform
The Ting Tings – We Started Nothing
Late of the Pier
Grammatics
The Video Nasties
Manic Street Preachers
Ivy – Apartment Life
Hum – You’d Prefer an Astronaut
The Pigeon Detectives
Jawbox
The Clik Clik
Mew
Sam Sparro
Unwound
The Scaramanga Six
Alphabeat – Alphabeat
Yelle – Pop-up
Black Kids – Partie Traumatic
Glasvegas
Sky Larkin
Moenia – Exitos
Forward Russia – Life Processes
Captain
Envy & Other Sins
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
I am also on Last FM
http://www.last.fm/user/exitfare/
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
Me too
http://www.last.fm/user/meggabill
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
our compatibility is very low
also, your kids will grow up to like soft rock. that’s how they’ll rebel.
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
Show tunes, dude, show tunes
My son’s already playing piano. It’s just a few years before he gets into Burt Bacharach and the sountrack to Oklahoma!
That or opera. It’s really the only two that would truly get under my skin. Besides rap, but I’ve brainwahsed them away from that.
At least my daughter likes guitar pop. I can live with Hannah Montana.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
show tunes are pretty awesome
There, I said it.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 10, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You like EVERYTHING though
if it’s done well.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
ha.
I can live with Hannah Montana.
I bet you could….
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
not in maryland!
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 10, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha ha ha
That’s how I got my coaching job, dude. I stay away from the young ones….
/seriously, dude before me 15 years ago did 7 years for gettin’ with cheerleaders on his lunch break
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Oh, there's a flashback you just triggered
My older sisters got me hooked on stuff like West Side Story, The Sound of Music & Jesus Christ: Superstar when I was very young.
No doubt they had prompting -
I’m a boy, I’m a boy but my Ma won’t admit it…
Moving on to your situation. Piano, eh? Might I suggest investing in a collection of funky hats & shades? (;-)
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
True Story...
back when I was in college, the audio from our college radio station would sometimes play over a station on cable TV. This happened during the Super Bowl while the station had a showtunes show on. So while viewers got the video of the Super Bowl, the audio was strictly showtunes. People were pissed. The DJ got death threats when she gave out the number for requests, even though it wasn’t her fault.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
I am also also on last.fm
http://www.last.fm/user/indianwarpaint
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
Jesus was a Crossmaker
Is that Hollies song the same version as the one Judee Sill did? I love her version.
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
yeah, same song
I like Judee Sill’s a lot, too. It’s a great song.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
Since there is so much metal and hardcore on here...
The Exploited – Troops of Tomorrow
SSD – The Kids Will Have Their Say
Chain of Strength – (can’t remember the album name)
The Damned – Tales From The Damned
Black Flag – Damaged
Chokehold – Instilled
Youth of Today – everything they made
Judge – What It Meant…
Integrity – Humanity Is The Devil
Ink & Dagger – first 7” and The Fine Art Of Original Sin
Rotting Christ – Triarchy of the Lost Lovers, Non Serviam
Marduk – Opus Nocturne
Burzum – Burzum/Aske
Darkthrone – under a funeral moon, ravishing grimness
Danzig – I, II, III, and IV
etc…
Non-metal/hardcore/punk
Mountain Goats – Talahasee, All Hail West Texas, We Shall All Be Healed
Young Jeezy – whatever the last album is called
Biosphere – Substrata
Brian Eno – Music For Airports
Raison d’Etre – Enthralled by the winds of loneliness
Negativland – Fair Use
Nice Ichi picture!
Those Ink & Dagger records are the tits.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Jun 10, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe there is another person sick enough
To have seen Ichi. One of my faves from Miike, along with Audition and Visitor Q.
Lovin' It
I love that there’s a music thread going. And I’m blown away by the size of your list. If that’s a list of recent acquisitions, your collection must take up a whole library (or hard drive).
I do mostly metal and hard stuff, but I’m pretty stoked about Tha Carter III. And I write a music blog, so I’m a massive music geek.
Dude....
I have about 2 dozen live recordings of Metallica alone, with a dozen of Hank Williams III and another dozen of Iron Maiden, let alone all their studio stuff, and 327 bands/artists. I think there’s 21,000 songs on my hard drive. My mp3 files take up almost 80 GBs as it is.
And I’m a slacker compared to SC and the rest…an out-right slacker.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Metallica
Will be at your house in three hours to reclaim their MP3s. Your options are (1) give Lars a check in an amount he deems to be reasonable, (2) suffer a face-melting solo complete with pick squeals from Kirk Hammett, or (3) be stuck in a room for 3 hours with Hetfield while he tells you tales of rehab.
Nope....
All my album rips are from CDs, and all my concerts (as far as youi know) are downloaded from livemetallica.com.
YOU got NUTHIN’ on me, Lars, NUTHIN’!
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
As Far As I Know
Maybe I don’t know, but Trujillo is watching you in your sleep.
Dude is CRAZY good
I hope they let him rip on the new CD
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Yeah seriously...
that is a lot of music. I have a huge record and CD (and now MP3) collection, and even I have to doff by cap to SC, that is a whole lot of new music.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
Carter III
I always fuckin’ hated Lil Wayne but I liked his guest spots last year on Kanye and Jay-Z’s albums. I wouldn’t say I was disappointed by the new album since I didn’t expect it to be all that great. Which it wasn’t. It’s OK. He’s like a fucken hip-hop Thelonious Monk (someone else first said that, but I think it fits). He’s downright weird and his music is off-balance.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Of interest, on this toipic
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
Rise Against question...
Love the tune on GH3, “Prayer of the Refugee.” Which CD should I start with with these guys?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
They're both frustrating
Very hit and miss. Between their two albums there’s about one CD’s worth of good material. If you’re interested in my personal picks you can email me at punkrawka AT usa DOT net.
If you made me pick an album, I’d go with their first (major-label) release, Siren Song of the Counter Culture. Prayer of the Refugee isn’t on there, but the good songs that ARE on that CD are more hardcore-influenced than the good songs on the new disc. It’s just a bit less “emo” overall.
Less "emo" = better in my book.
Thanks
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
MORE ADDS
She & Him – Volume One
Foxboro Hot Tubs – Stop Drop and Roll!!!
Neil Diamond – 12 Songs (never listened to it, but figured I should since I got…)
Neil Diamond – Home Before Dark
The Last Shadow Puppets – The Age of the Understatement
Alestorm’s pirate metal wasn’t as bad as I thought it’d be. Pretty entertaining really.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
Try the new Apocalyptica
I think you’ll like it.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
The Last Shadow Puppets – The Age of the Understatement
good album, but I enjoy Miles Kane’s other band more—The Rascals
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
Never seen an MC fall off so quick....
Every guest verse he’s done in the last year has been wack as fuck, and that Carter III shit is weak sauce too…..dude peaked with that Drought 3 mixtape last summer and then it was OVER, just like that. Unless he gets back w/ Mannie Fresh (which probably ain’t happenin), I don’t think I’m interested anymore….too bad
Hip hop is in sorry shape right now…..I’m just waitin for that new RZA in 2 weeks, hopefully he’ll come correct
See man, I never liked Wayne at all (I hated the Hot Boys/that whole clique sound, thought Mannie Fresh was terrible in the booth, and mostly just wanted to punch Wayne every time I heard him). But I did like him on the Kanye and Jay albums last year because he was so ill-suited that it worked beautifully. Carter III—eh. I didn’t hate it. I didn’t like it either. And if you’re going to hype it that much then you have to bring some shit.
I’m looking forward to the RZA album, too, but with moderate expectations.
My favorite hip-hop album this year (so far, that I’ve listened to) has been Jazz Liberatorz, Clin d’oeil, and it didn’t necessarily kick my ass or anything.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 11, 2008 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
ADDS
Paul Weller – 22 Dreams
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds – Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
Sleepercar – West Texas
Hayes Carll – Trouble in Mind
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
cave, carll
i like everything i’ve heard off both those records.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 11, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what great music comes to Moscow? If you said
the Backstreet Boys, Busta Rhymes and Liza Minnelli…you’d know why I stay in a lot. Anyway, here’s my two cents worth on the scene in this neighborhood of E. Europe:
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Strolling through the Latvian capital of Riga earlier this month, I had a “globalization moment” - sort of a “senior moment,” except that I remember it just fine, thanks - induced by large billboards heralding concerts by the Backstreet Boys and Busta Rhymes.
If Florida boy bands and Flatbush rap acts are selling tickets in Latvia, my epiphany went, then modern youth culture really has gone global. There’s no more East vs. West, no more First, Second and Third Worlds, no more post-this or ante-that for the planet’s now-homogeneous young consumers. The Boys and Busta can move product anywhere but Pyongyang and Minsk, and not by drawing on some transportable fan base of Groupies Without Borders. The market is universal.
This simply hadn’t registered with me—until suddenly it did. When Busta raps in Riga, I realized, the revolution is officially over. I have seen the future and it’s jerks.
To be fair and balanced, Busta is now a jerk on probation, the Boys aren’t jerks at all and these acts have as much to do with the past as the future. Let’s take the past first, starting with mine.
I first visited Latvia on a field trip from Leningrad in 1975, before gangsta rap and suburban neo-barbershop were even gleams in a promoter’s eye. Riga, alas, didn’t offer much more for visiting American students to listen to than had Leningrad. From outlying Kamchatka to the occupied Baltics, the whole Soviet Union was formally hostile to “bourgeois” music of all stripes, with Western pop and rock groups leading the list.
True, 1975 was not 1955, when Soviet music lovers made bootleg boogie-woogie recordings on X-ray plates and listened doggedly for every un-jammed note of the Voice of America’s jazz hour. By the mid-1970s, the Soviet state had grudgingly reached a tacit cultural compromise with its rising generation: If you don’t rattle the cage too loudly, we will tolerate long hair, some indigenous pop groups and even throw you a bone once a week - which they did. On Saturday nights at 11:30 - when young people were likely to be out and about or out cold—Leningrad radio aired a show called “Your Tape Recorder,” offering Western music for young fans to copy however they could. It wasn’t much, but it sure beat nothing and was aurally devoured like forbidden fruit.
Like millions of other people who spent (or did) time in the Soviet Union, I still have occasional flashbacks to Soviet deprivations like the pop-music drought. Sure, Chuck Berry has played Moscow four times, Paul McCartney has filled Red Square and Deep Purple is the nation’s First Rock Group. Yet in some anterior lobe of my middle-aged brainpan - no doubt the section that processes Proust and “The X-Files” - there are still synapses convinced that in places where Russian is heard, Western pop music isn’t. At least not loudly and certainly not in public. So my mind, as in Riga, finds itself playing catch-up.
But back to the future - which is not Busta and the Boys. They are “relics of the ‘90s,” whose appearances and album sales on former Soviet territory offer limited prospects - or so say my English students from the music management program at Moscow’s Gnessin Academy of Music. These kids take courses like Finance and Taxes for Cultural Enterprises, Statistics, and Strategic Management. They deride MTV Russia as clueless and Eurovision as tunnel vision, but they’ll give you a working estimate of how many tickets various artists will sell in Moscow, from Blondie to Iggy Pop, in a heartbeat. See, that stuff matters.
The Boys and Busta are marketable here, but to diminishing audiences. The next globalees will want the next thing—not the Boys of ‘93 or your father’s hip-hopper. But the good news for these performers is that they will always find a venue in Moscow, say the proto-managers. Acts that have had significant success in the United States will always sell tickets to Muscovites who have heard of them but never seen them live, apparently. Even Liza Minnelli.
To my Riga story, a senior student parried that what’s afoot is less the globalization of pop music than its Americanization. Asked whether this is good or bad, the same student - who serves as press attache for a major Russian jazz artist - simply shrugged. “It just is. Music evolves and you deal with it.”
Fair enough. Only in my case, you deal with it a little later than everybody else.
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
At the moment I am on an Elliot Smith bender.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
always healthy for the listener
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 11, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
as long as...
you weren’t brimmnig w/ sunny optimism beforehand.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 11, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
added today -
H2O – Nothing to Prove
Verse – Agression
Killing the Dream – Fractures
re-added
Integrity – Seasons In the Size of Days
Integrity – Systems Overload
Does anybody remember WCVT?
It was Towson State’s station and played the best underground music until they changed the format to New Age music and the call letters to WTMD in the early 90’s.
I was introduced to a huge amount of amazing music on that station when I was in high school. They also had (and still have, I believe) the Saturday Morning Polka Hop, which kicked ass too.
Yes...
and I agree it was an excellent station. They played a lot of great underground music and also had very high production values and overall on-air professionalism for a college radio station. It was a shame when they switched formats. I imagine that generated a lot of campus conflict. Good to hear they’re still kicking the Polka though.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
College radio rules
I helped do the metal show at UM for a year or two while there – God, that was fun.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
No surprise...
but I was Music Director at my college radio station. I had a lot of fun with that.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
I was a former college radio MD
and then college radio promoter…..
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
WTMD is still a great station
I definitely would not call it “New Age,” unless you qualify Ryan Adams and Wilco as “new age.”
Listen to BM J.R. by Lil Wayne it's on Tha Carter I....
in one part of the song he says: “I ain’t trippin nigga, I play the corner like Ripken nigga
With the 40 Cal Ripken nigga, rip a nigga”
Geaux Eaux's
Right now
I’m listening to the new Usher Cd. I like.
"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones
recently
The Ting Tings are a minor obsession. I’m revisiting the Tilly and the Wall and Faint back catalogs in anticipation of upcoming albums. Also, Lykke Li, whose album hopefully will get a US release soon.
Otherwise, in terms of older stuff, I’ve gained a newfound appreciation for Another Side of Bob Dylan. Continual Regina Spektor.
Also, lots of French house music. Daft Punk, Justice, stuff like that. Been going to a fair number of dance parties.
Oh, and MGMT. Definitely MGMT. Love them. Cut Copy, a little bit.
Likey
I like Tilly & The Wall. Lots of tour dates coming up for them, I think.
Though, now I wonder: Is the frontwoman Tilly, and her band The Wall? Or is Tilly and The Wall some other play on words that I’m not smart enough for?
Tillie and the Wall is a kids book
They took it from that. No one in the band is named Tilly. Heh.
I’m seeing them in DC when they come. Black Cat, I’m pretty sure.
Which one's Hootie?
And which one’s Pink?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
I'm guessing those are from the book?
I dunno any of the actual band members’ names. Though one of them is a tapdancer.
Two other bands
who had the same problem – Hootie & The Blowfish and Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd even used the line in a song, after a meeting with a record exec where he actually asked the band, “Which one’s PInk?”
And Darrius Rucker of H&TB got that question all the time. No, he wasn’t Hootie.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
AMA's CC Theme Song...
wish I was special
You’re so very special
But
I’m a creep,
I’m a weirdo
What the hell am I doin’ here?
I don’t belong here
I don’t care if it hurts,
I wanna have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul
I want you to notice
when I’m not around
You’re so very special
I wish I was special
But I’m a creep
I’m a weirdo
What the hell am I doin’ here?
I don’t belong here, ohhhh, ohhhh
"Chickens are hard to catch." Jennifer Scott (Luuuuuuuke's Mom)
We could always go..
with the Prince cover. Just another whole level of arrogance to add on to it, as Prince tried to get the YT banned, but then Radiohead found out, and as copyright holder for the tune, told YT to keep it up.
But I bet AMA can’t play guitar for crap, and Prince actually can.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
What with digital cameras and pixel-projection developing, pretty soon no one will remember
the artistry formerly known as “prints.”
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
Years, I've been waiting *years* for somebody to set that one up.
A bad pun is a terrible thing to waste.
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
fantastic.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 15, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I am listening to my XM
I have one of the portable units that allows me to record a song that I like, so I basically have a bunch of songs that I love, but don’t know the names of the most of the songs or artists. I usually cull the songs from XM 12 Cross Country, which plays a lot of Americana/Alternative Country.
This is how I discovered that I liked Lyle Lovett.
Lyle Lovett is an excellent songwriter
People usually just recognize him for marrying Julia Roberts. No dice, sister. Dude is good.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 17, 2008 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions
or...
for his freakishly immaculate coif.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 17, 2008 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I was looking for some sort of cool musical turn from him in "The Player", but nope.
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
Current Rotation:
Some of this stuff is pretty gay but oh well… It changes drastically based on what moods I get in.
Weezer – Weezer (Red)
We Are Scientists – Brain Thrust Mastery
Van She – Van She EP
Modest Mouse – Building Nothing Out of Something
Modest Mouse – Good News for People Who Love Bad News
Weezer – Pinkerton
As Fast As – Open Letter To The Damned
The Wildlife – Sweet Plastic
Rooney – Calling the World
Rooney – Rooney
Better Than Ezra – Before the Robots
Jamie Walker T-shirts: http://www.cafepress.com/beltwaysports
hey!
I love Tilly and the Wall. As I already said. Ah well, I’ve made peace with being the straight guy who has the musical taste of a gay guy (or more like a slightly stereotypical indie chick).
Also, I find it funny that cstone is listening to both Pinkerton (transcendently awesome) and Red (painfully awful).
Also, Rooney rocks.
Before the Robots got a bad rap
I really like that CD, I think it stacks up pretty well against anything else BTE has done. Deluxe is probably still the best, but most bands can’t beat their first breakthrough album.
anybody else digging the new elvis costello?
is this his most rockin album in 30 years? mind you, i’ve only heard about three tracks on the radio, so maybe they’re outliers.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
It’s really good. I’m debating whether or not I prefer old (as in age) Costello to old (as in early) Costello, because I never got ga-ga about his early stuff. I’ll take Joe Jackson’s first two over Elvis’ first two any day.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 18, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess at this point...
i’d agree. the high white notes on the first few elvis records are almost peerless, but there’s a lot of filler, i think. i don’t think he really started making full records until the mid 80s. punch the clock is one of my faves.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Jun 18, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Has Elvis C ever had a greater moment than...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2ABpZ4F3s
I mean, I axe ya.
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

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