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Gameday Thread: 2008 All-Star Game

8:05 on FOX, y'all. Let's take this stupid, pointless day as a chance to talk a lot of B.S. about players that have no real bearing on our team. Rock and roll, hoochie koo.

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  Today's Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA HR BB K W-L
Ben Sheets - RH - Brewers 18 123.0 2.85 1.11 .235 13 28 108 10-3
Cliff Lee - LH - Indians 18 124.2 2.31 1.03 .234 5 20 106 12-2
National League AB AVG OBP HR RBI
1 Hanley Ramirez - SS - Marlins 373 .311 .391 23 45
2 Chase Utley - 2B - Phillies 364 .291 .372 25 69
3 Lance Berkman - 1B - Astros 334 .347 .443 22 73
4 Albert Pujols - DH - Cardinals 286 .350 .466 18 50
5 Chipper Jones - 3B - Braves 298 .376 .472 18 51
6 Matt Holliday - RF - Rockies 309 .337 .421 14 51
7 Ryan Braun - LF - Brewers 377 .286 .324 23 66
8 Kosuke Fukudome - CF - Cubs 326 .279 .383 7 36
9 Geovany Soto - C - Cubs 316 .288 .369 16 56
American League AB AVG OBP HR RBI
1 Ichiro - RF - Mariners 391 .304 .366 3 21
2 Derek Jeter - SS - Yankees 352 .284 .345 5 42
3 Josh Hamilton - CF - Rangers 377 .310 .367 21 95
4 Alex Rodriguez - 3B - Yankees 279 .312 .392 19 53
5 Manny Ramirez - LF - Red Sox 328 .293 .389 18 60
6 Milton Bradley - DH - Rangers 269 .316 .440 19 57
7 Kevin Youkilis - 1B - Red Sox 328 .314 .381 15 63
8 Joe Mauer - C - Twins 301 .322 .418 5 41
9 Dustin Pedroia - 2B - Red Sox 395 .314 .357 9 47

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Lincecum is REALLY out now

Went to the hospital this morning with “flu-like symptoms.” Wan’t going to pitch anyway, now won’t even be at the stadium.

Discuss.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 15, 2008 6:05 PM EDT   0 recs

i wanna say real quik...

those tribe alternate unis like the one cliff lee is sporting in the pic above are DOPE!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 15, 2008 6:05 PM EDT   0 recs

yes he does

As Young’s backup. AL shortstop is REALLY thin.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

REALLY THIN

The Cap’n is arguably the 2nd best SS in the AL this year. Who else ya got?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 15, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jhonny Peralta

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wow, I looked it up, it's really that bad

you could still make an argument for Jhonny Peralta over Jeter, but it’s a stretch

by math_geek on Jul 15, 2008 6:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How's that a stretch???

Leads him in OPS, OPS+, VORP, WARP. He’s been a significantly better hitter and dramatically better defensively.

Jeter has a better fist pump.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, maybe not that much of a stretch

but a .300 OBP is really not very good, and OBP is more important than SLG even though we treat them as equals in practice. Jeter’s terrible defense is a factor I wasn’t measuring however.

by math_geek on Jul 15, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, OBP is more valuable

But it’s not that dramatically more valuable. It’s not making up for Peralta’s huge lead in SLG%. And then there is defense.

I don’t have a huge problem with Jeter going. He’s there for the same reason Cal was there year after year no matter what his stats were. But based on his production this year, he’s not really deserving.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This parade is out and out ridiculous.

And not in any sort of awesome way.

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 7:04 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm pumped, guys

This time it fucking COUNTS. I can’t wait for Brian McCann to hit a three-run homer off of George Sherrill, ultimately securing home field for the 82-win Arizona Diamondbacks in the World Series.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 7:46 PM EDT   0 recs

It's not going to be Sherill.

It’s going to be Papelbon, and he’ll get a much deserved booing.

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ll keep my bet on the guy that’s not very good.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm going with guy who I hate more.

Just a good old fashioned personal vendetta.

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll tell ya

You wanna talk about undeserving All-Stars, Sherrill’s up there.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Roberts should be there

Can’t do anything about the fans voting in Pedroia and Insler deserves to be there; but why not carry 3 2B? Did we really need 29 RP in the game?

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear he calls a great game

Put him behind the plate.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It makes more sense strategically

to take a bunch of closers with sub-2.00 ERAs since nobody’s pitching more than two innings anyway.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sherrill's era is over 3

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Heck

It’s over 4. And Papelbon is over 2. KRod is over 2.

These guys don’t do anything that most good starters could do. Too much value is placed on closers.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

over 4

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Then kick him off the team

I can’t get worked up about anything to do with All Star rosters.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 15, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Apparently

we DID!

"Jeremy Guthrie’s funny. Sneaky funny. Smart funny. Stanford funny."
-Kevbo

by dayzd toe on Jul 16, 2008 9:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes, dipshits

Hold up your Pepsi water.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 7:47 PM EDT   0 recs

oh fuck you

I hate New York.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT   0 recs

alright

Lawrence Taylor and Darryl Strawberry, fine representatives for the city of New York.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 7:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Guess Steve Howe had other plans

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait....

Actually, I think he passed.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

usually he failed

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not making light...

i believe he died in a car wreck a few years back. drinking and driving, he was.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 15, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

there was meth in his system

Just a guy that never quite beat it. With the relapse rate for these things, I really do get a queasy feeling about Josh Hamilton. Just sayin’.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh Ernie

Wasn’t it time to win a game about 10 years ago?

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Ernie played for the Cubs.

So, closer to 100 years ago.

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point

Maybe Ernie wasn’t the right pick to give words of wisdom to break the streak.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah get Bud Black in here

They’re only 20 games under.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT   0 recs

How bad is Utley going to get booed???

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:03 PM EDT   0 recs

man

Corey Hart and Kerry Wood could be dirt bike riding no goodnik brothers.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

I like how these old farts are talking to these guys like they're 11

Go out and have fun! Don’t try to be a hero!

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:05 PM EDT   0 recs

GEORGE

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Not a single boo for our guy???

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:05 PM EDT   0 recs

They don’t know who the fuck he is.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know

Sad

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is Sherril rocking a goatee?

I guess the no facial hair rule only applies when more than one Oriole is present.

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 8:06 PM EDT   0 recs

CAL AND EDDIE

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:07 PM EDT   0 recs

BROOKS AND JIM

I can’t wait until we’re good again.

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 8:12 PM EDT   0 recs

oh look it's the MASN color guys.

Anyone think either of them can go 6?

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 8:14 PM EDT   0 recs

well let's see for Chase

Nothin special.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Probably mostly season ticket holders for tonight's game

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

they were holding out for Pedroia.

I don’t blame them either. Fuck that little douchbag.

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, I can't NOT watch this "game"-- I mean, I voted 150,000 times. What, didn't you?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jul 15, 2008 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

god tony gwynn is fucking fat

FRANK

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

EARL

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Tommy Lasorda is so dramatic

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:24 PM EDT   0 recs

ANDY'S DAD

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT   0 recs

c'mon Francona.

What would Chase Utley do?

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Sheryl Crow?

I’d rather see Bon Jovi out there…

by getxstoked on Jul 15, 2008 8:30 PM EDT   0 recs

She’s playing the anthem with a guitar. She brought her guitar. And her poor woman’s Emmylou Harris impersonation sucks.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

uh...

shouldn’t they let a real ‘murikan do the anthem? nuts to this freedom hating commie!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

her friend the communist

holds office in his ARRVEE

she don’t know diddly squat

I hate Sheryl Crow.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I always liked Sheryl Crow

I like most women who can sing. But what is that guitar really adding???

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Could have been one of the worst National Anthem performances ever

At least by a professional singer.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 15, 2008 8:32 PM EDT   0 recs

ahaha

I thought they gave him a barf bag

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT   0 recs

He had a snot on his face during his ride.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what the hell was Willie Mays doing trying to sneak in there

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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