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The NL Needs the DH

A number of current MLB controversies have made it clear that the game is moving forward into a new era. One fan tries to find the best balance between past and present.

From http://www.splicetoday.com/sports/the-nl-needs-the-dh

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Baseball is an exhilarating yet frustrating mess of contradictions, and this fan is caught in the trap—like millions of other men and women (save George Will, whose pompous moral certitude about the sport is immutable)—of trying to reconcile “purist” instincts with the undeniable improvements in the game over the past several decades. Last weekend, for example, while watching a slew of inter-league contests via the MLB “Extra Innings” package (which, regardless of varying prices depending on your locale and cable provider, costs less for an entire season of televised games than one day at a stadium for a family of four), I finally switched gears and figured it was time for the National League to acquiesce and adopt the still-controversial designated hitter rule.

Heresy, I guess, but what the hell; if you’re a Milwaukee Brewers’ devotee, wouldn’t it be delightful to see the world’s tubbiest vegetarian, Prince Fielder, in the dugout, contemplating his next plate appearance, instead of anchored at first base? One league’s dominance over the other usually runs in cycles, but the N.L. seems mired in a slump that’s likely to run longer than the Great Depression, and this was evident once again over the weekend. Sure, the strategy required of an N.L. manager is more intricate than A.L. counterparts with double-switches and more sacrifice bunts, but the two leagues might be more competitive if older free agents (or crummy fielders) could extend their careers as a DH.

That said, and here’s one of those curveballs, I can’t stand inter-league play, even though it pumps up attendance and allows fans to see star players who were once a mystery aside from the All-Star game (which, of course, has devolved into a meaningless exhibition game instead of a proud showcase) or the World Series. My 13-year-old son, with whom I have the pleasure of sitting next to in our matching easy chairs in the homestead’s television room, adamantly disagrees, but I chalk that up to his participation in a fantasy league with a bunch of school buddies. I just don’t like the disruption of the season’s rhythm, the fake “rivalries” cooked up by MLB schedule makers—sure, the Cubs and White Sox make sense, but the Rockies and Tigers?—for the sake of novelty and profit.

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I didn't care much for the article

But the NL does need the DH, why do they insist on making us watch Bartolo Colon and all the other pitchers hit, its about as entertaining as bringing William Hung in to sing the National Anthem

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 2, 2008 11:36 AM EDT   0 recs

Interleague

Is great for the American League, which had an insane win % throughout the two weeks (no need to look any further than our O’s to see how well we fared), while the NL got pounded into oblivion.

by blawk359 on Jul 2, 2008 12:36 PM EDT   0 recs

NL was almost 50 games UNDER .500

for interleague this year at 102-149 (with one makeup game remaining). Wow.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or bad depending on how you look at it

Because now teams with good records wont make the playoffs in the AL but an 84 win team will make it in the NL

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 2, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The NL West

may very well have a team below .500 win the division.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You watch

NL wins the All Star game & an 82 win team ends up winning the Series from a 98 win team – because in game 7 the AL pitcher fucks up his leg/knee/foot running the bases.

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Jul 2, 2008 2:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Well then

the 98 win team should’ve won their home games. Always with the scenarios.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Shouldn't you be out buying a pink hat or something?

Or making ridiculous arguments about how Curt Schilling was a better pitcher than Mike Mussina?

by getxstoked on Jul 2, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

that’s what my argument was. Thanks for contributing. Insightful as always.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 2, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh huh

That would still leave a game 7 in the NL team’s yard.

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Jul 2, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If

the 98 win team loses in Game 7 because of a pitcher getting hurt running the bases, they didn’t god damn deserve to win. But…what if the NL team loses because their DH is not used to hitting when not playing the field and suffers an anxiety attack? Won’t somebody think of the children?

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 2, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Even if they did

They’d lose 4-3, cause the NL team would be the home team for Game 7.

This is an entirely reasonable scenario. And you’d better pay attention, as a fan of the probable AL Wild Card, this may come into play for your team. Assuming you can stay ahead of whomever is #2 in the AL Central.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 2, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why so pessimistic?

They could quite possibly death spiral to 3rd or worse in the east.

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Jul 2, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd hope for 5th...

but I think TOR has that on lockdown.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 2, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Toronto is a lot better than you think

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 2, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They gots NO LUCK this year

and I refuse to believe that karma would allow them to finish any higher with THAT MANAGER running things now.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 3, 2008 8:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

side note

The Rays are doing exactly what JP promised he would do when hired: build a contender cheaply using a strong farm system.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Jul 3, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ricciardi is a clown

Being associated with Beane and DePodesta does not make you Beane or DePodesta. Ricciardi reminds me of Marty Mornhinweg. When the Lions hired him as head coach, the Niners reaction was basically, “Well, OK, we’d rather have this other guy running our offense anyway.”

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 3, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You know what

they’ve managed to win two World Series in four years while getting through four entire National League games without any pitchers exploding after running the bases. Pitchers hitting is stupid but give me a fucking break already with the endless scenarios. Of course I’m sure the NL only had home field advantage because Clint Hurdle let Brandon Webb throw a complete game in the All Star Game.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 2, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It could happen...

I’m just sayin’.

And you know, I think I heard somewhere that the Red Sox won the Series once or twice. I think I caught it in passing on a SportsCenter before they cut to pre-draft coverage of the NFL draft in November one year…

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 2, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hi, Broken Record Titov here. Um, the NL has needed the DH since 1903, when Connie Mack proposed it.

What’s wrong with taking a little time - well, OK, 105 years - to consider it? Or perhaps you don’t consider Connie Mack a “purist”, and thus dismiss his proposal outright?

To be fair, the NL did propose adopting the DH in 1932, but the AL turned it down—for reasons you can imagine (the superior league didn’t perceive a need to adjust anything much). That said, it is long past time that both leagues played by the same rules; and since there is no going back for the AL —or for the rest of organized baseball at all levels, wherein all 10,000 leagues (or whatever it is) in the world but two, the NL and the Japanese Central League, use the DH -- the only option available is, gulp, modernity.

If MLB had a commissioner, this simple step to solve an obvious problem would have been taken years ago. But it doesn’t, so here we are, stuck watching either incompetent “batters” trying to bunt or (best case!) incompetent base runners failing at baserunning—and/or injuring themselves in the process.

Thanks, Bud—and keep up the good work. At least you’re making Hank look perceptive!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jul 2, 2008 6:01 PM EDT   0 recs

And for the record

You can junk all the freakin worst case scenario BS, because the #1 reason against pitchers hitting is that they can’t fucking do it. Use your wild imaginations for something else.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 2, 2008 9:02 PM EDT   0 recs

So if they can't do it

why have the waste our time trying?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 2, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll think about that

while I go look up my posts where I said pitchers hitting is great and awesome.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 2, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll try my John McCain approach

and use your own words against you:

“You can junk all the freakin worst case scenario BS, because the #1 reason against pitchers hitting is that they can’t fucking do it.”

Again, I ask, so why waste our time and have them do it?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 2, 2008 10:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You know

I could read that statement backwards and forwards a hundred times and still not see any indication that I like pitchers hitting. In fact, that combined with my earlier statement - “pitchers hitting is stupid” - would seem to indicate quite the opposite.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Jul 2, 2008 10:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't really care if the NL gets the DH or if the AL gets rid of it.

I just think that both leagues should be on the same page.

Personally, the prospect of one of the most traditional, basic rules “9 fielders = 9 batters” being completely removed from baseball is a little scary. So all in all, I guess I’d support the AL getting rid of the DH before I’d want the NL to start using it.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 3, 2008 1:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Pitchers can’t hit and it’s boring to watch them try. I’d rather see Frank Thomas limp his fat ass around and crack a dong than pee because Micah Owings is hitting an amazing .250.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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Bad Left Hook

by SC on Jul 3, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you're gonna let the pitcher bat

you might as well let girls play

by mystery tramp on Jul 3, 2008 4:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Geena Davis for Orioles DH!

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jul 5, 2008 1:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

F that

I want Marla Hooch

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 5, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll take

Crystl Bustos

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 5, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What a hitter!

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jul 5, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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