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GameThread: Blue Jays (48-51) at Orioles (48-50), 7:05 PM EDT

Toronto Blue Jays at Baltimore Orioles, Jul 22, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


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Toronto Blue Jays
@ Baltimore Orioles

Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008, 7:05 PM EDT
Oriole Park at Camden Yards

Shaun Marcum (5-4, 2.65)

vs

Garrett Olson  (6-5, 5.79)

Partly cloudy.

Winds blowing out to right field

at 5-10 m.p.h.

Game Time temperature: Around 90.

Now, Marcum's numbers look great. But, according to Yahoo! Sports, he's on a short leash tonight:

Shaun Marcum (5-4, 2.65 ERA) makes his first start in over a month for the Blue Jays on Tuesday. The right-hander felt pain in his elbow after a start against Milwaukee on June 18 and was placed on the 15-day disabled list three days later. He was determined to be suffering from strained ligaments around his elbow and forearm, an assessment later confirmed by arm specialist Dr. James Andrews.

"I couldn’t even wash my hair when I came out that day in Milwaukee," Marcum told the team’s official Web site. "From there to what it is now, it’s almost like a 100 percent turnaround. My arm feels good and I’m glad to be back here."

Marcum, who will be limited to 65-70 pitches, was having a strong season before the injury. He had allowed two earned runs or fewer in 11 of 15 starts while holding opponents to a .198 batting average.


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Eckstein is the DH for the Jays tonight.

That’s a strange choice.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NICK!

DONG!

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Menchie!

Is it wrong to root (casually) for a guy that went to your alma mater?

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I root for all the guys in the pros that I played with or against

regardless of what team they are on (except maybe the MFYs)...

by O'sFan21 on Jul 22, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another one

Joe Flacco….

I want him to play and get a chance, but I also don’t want him to be completely thrown to the wolves….

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Blue Hens!

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i went to law school in de...

but not at the u. good times.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best 6 years of my life

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MelMo just saved your rear, Garrett.

You should probably buy all of his kids new shoes for that.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roll Call

Who’s alive out there tonight for this game?

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We might

Set an all-time low for gamethread posts.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

woooooooo

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 22, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just signed on , waiting for another markickasss hr

by rconnor on Jul 22, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell is Eckstein DH'ing???

No way he catches that one

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I notice you're in Philly.

Sorry to read that….

Phillies and Eagles “fans” are amazing, aren’t they?

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was down

In Delaware (obviously) and it was the same way. They’d all wear Eagles jerseys to classes.

One professor, in the middle of the lecture goes “Why the F did McNabb have to break his knee” We’d also get out of class early for MNF.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Philly's great

You always know where they stand. You know they are going to be pissed off and probably don’t care for you much.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You get that mostly just from college kids

They really need to expand Rutgers so Jersey can stop exporting all their college kids.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Philly's got it's share as well.

Just talk to the guys working at Pat’s/Gino’s or on South Street. Almost indistinguishable from South Jersey.

by O'sFan21 on Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a problem with South Jersey

It’s the guys from central to north Jersey that annoy the hell out of me; South Jersey is mostly farms.

Don’t go to Pats/Gino’s that much, so can’t really speak for that.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would

Never ever ever go to Pat’s or Gino’s.

But that’s just me. I was always a fan of Leo’s in Folcroft.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pat's is great drunk food.

Other than that nothing special.

by O'sFan21 on Jul 22, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh Folcroft

I think the best steaks are in Roxborough: Barry’s, Delesandros, and Chubbys.

South Philly wise, Tony Luke is pretty good stuff.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck yeah!

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MM

mora is on fire, but answer me this… does it or does it not look like melvin is about to cry all the time?

by rconnor on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MEMLOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Memlo

Is like a different guy after leaving the 11 guys on base in Boston saying he f-ed up.

Mellie is playing angry, and I like it.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Randy Hernandez

Really pounded it.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus

Could throw 27 strike no-hitters.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude's dad was a carpenter

Probablu spent his whole youth (and up to age 30) lugging around roug-hewn 4X4s. I’m bettin’ He had a pretty good arm, personally.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 23, 2008 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

checking in

And things aren’t looking bad around here. True, a mere 4 run lead isn’t much for Mary-Kate, as he is busy showing us right now, but this is one teamwhose bullpen is just as stressed than ours, so it’s all good, right?

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That assumes

they have the ability to conistsently throw it there on purpose.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 23, 2008 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to work yourself out of that mess, Garrett.

Thanks to Luuuke, this time.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's the hardest I've seen Castro hit anything yet.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We've got

A Terry Crowley reference…like every, single,., night.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dude...

dr. jones and nikos credit him w/ their awesomeness!

even if it’s silly to say that b/c they’re both such awesome athletes and have probably just figured things out on their own…

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, Mary-Kate

You got it, dude!

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jim

Since you seem to rag on Mary-Kate so much, why don’t you go and actually try to help him?

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can see palmer...

being one of those “why can’t you just be good?!” type of coaches.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see

Why they’d walk Menchie.

Menchie is a legend in Newark, DE for his ster-er, power.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Mary-Kate

Where is Ashley?

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus

I can’t watch this.

by dkdc on Jul 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching Olsen pitch

Is like watching a big rig jacknife.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he would have been out of the inning...

if someone had thrown to second instead of third.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez, I can see that O’sFan21 has some serious anger-management issues. You should know that there are medications that can help people like you!

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If it's the 5th inning, it must be time for a 5-spot

if Mary-Kate is the starter. It’s like clockwork—no reason for surprise.

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Audrey

Is playing just well enough to get traded.

Thank you, Huffer.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MELLLLLLMOOOOOO

MMMMELLLLLMOOOOOOO

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MEMLO!

DONG!

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New ballgame! Olson’s off the hook!

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

memlo the magnificent!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good evening

Just got home from Thirsty Dog Dog Pub. Wing Dog Pizza is the best thing ever.

"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail

by Stacey on Jul 22, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My goodness

Melvin has a home run and four RBIs tonight? What has gotten into him?

"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail

by Stacey on Jul 22, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

steroids?

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAMON!!

DONG

He has really been hitting of late.

"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail

by Stacey on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You do realize that Melvin and Hernandez are in the top 10 in the AL in batting average with RISP? Speaking of Ramon….

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RAZOR!

DONG!

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was at a game once

where Ramon hit a walk off home run (I think against the Angels). He flipped the bat and admired it like crazy. Luckily for him it went over, but it was barely. It was hardly a sure thing off the bat. The LF seriously almost caught it.

"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail

by Stacey on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

am i going mad?

the RAZUHHH!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Headline on Baltimore Sun.com:

“Crowley charged with tutoring Loewen”

Sounds like he’s a wanted criminal.

by Brotz13 on Jul 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you see that shot of Mora and Huff-Daddy slapping five? They missed Ramon’s hit (although they did look to the outfield in time to see it go out)! Pretty funny stuff.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you guys hear the music they're playing?

What on earth?

"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail

by Stacey on Jul 22, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I missed it...

what were they playing?

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

It was this very dramatic instrumental. It sounded like the score of a movie where the good guy are gearing up for their big showdown.

"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail

by Stacey on Jul 22, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody remember when we would whine about how sucky the hitting was

...and thank God for the pitching? Seems like a long time ago, doesn’t it. The way these guys are hitting, this should have been a laugher, before M-K got his grubby little paws on it.
David Steele seriouisly got it right.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.steele21jul21,0,4575096.column

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought Steele came off as whiny in that article.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All we’ve heard for the past several years is “this year we’ll watch the pithing develop”. I’ve said before, the O’s have developed control problems and arm problems. Not much else.

Now we are to wait for Matusz, Arrieta, and Tillman.

by drj on Jul 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap, Alberto.

You looked like Jamie Walker right there.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I freaking love Jim Palmer

“If you gave your kid a candy bar every time he whined and cried, you’d have a happy, fat kid.”

"Mora looked pretty good running the bases tonight when he hit that home run," Dave Trembley.

by Bee the Ball on Jul 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No

You’d have Matt Stairs.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the O's can sign Troy Smith

Nah, he couldn’t throw a strike today, either.

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's taken me longer

To unzip my pants than that last half-inning.

Bring Tex Home.

by dtuck81 on Jul 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Which is what happens when guys throw strikes

You either hit them or go down, but you don’t take all day doing it. Now go wash your hands.

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLEASE DRINK

responsibly

"Mora looked pretty good running the bases tonight when he hit that home run," Dave Trembley.

by Bee the Ball on Jul 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, we seem to have mastered that GIDP maneuver tonight. On a different note, what did Orioles fans do to deserve Gary Thorne? The tough part about being an O’s fan in the DC area is that 980 AM cuts its power when the sun goes down, and you have to give up on listening to Joe and Fred.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Gary and Jim.

Can’t stand Manfra on the radio.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Count me in

I’ll take Gary Thorne for every O’s game the rest of my life if it means I am spared Fred Manfra.

And Gary’s really funny when he’s drinking, which is seemingly every game.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 23, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hellooooo....

Anybody out there? out there? out there?

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not? We’re only facing one of the top bullpens in the AL.

Seriously, it’s a shame when a starter gets staked with a four-run lead, and that’s not enough to have a comfortable evening.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Question....

Most folks like the group of guys on the club, and they clearly have good chemistry, even if they’re probably a sub-.500 club. Would you rather have a group of guys who play .500 ball but we like them or would you rather have a more competitive team comprised of jerks? That’s why they paid Andy M. the big bucks.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A competitive team made of decent human beings

and a couple jerks.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No matter what happens, it’s nice that most of our trade bait is saying that they don’t want to leave the O’s to play for a competitive team. I’m really impressed by Sherrill, who played Independent ball but says he doesn’t want to leave the O’s, even if it would put him on a serious competitor.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question kind of answers itself

But it’s a false choice. At the beginning of the season everyone thought the Os were playing over their potential. Now—we’re two decent starters and a shortstop away from being competitive. Nice guys can win just as well as a-holes.

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d add a few bullpen pitchers to the list of players we need to be really competitive.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear that, but

I think if the starters were consistently going 7, some of these guys would be closer to their early season form. They’re just falling apart, and hitters are getting way too many looks at them.

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the starters were pitching better....

I bet the bullpen would be, too.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 23, 2008 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anybody else think the homeplate ump is a little bit dramatic?

at least on his strike calls…

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s great. You can hear him screaming his strike calls on the radio (at least you could until the DC radio station cut its power and I had to turn on MASN’s sound).

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decent AB for Razor

against a guy who can really spot his pitches.

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish MASN would lose the sports-reporting school ads.

If not, they should send Thorne to sports-reporting school.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what a mench!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nah...

i say it reflexivly when his name is mentioned, but in that situation, it seemed apporpriate to “verbalize.”

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roch reports that Walker threw BP to Fahey & Quiroz

I guess that’s one way to keep his pitches off Eutaw Street.

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did they want him to take infield...

as he pitched? What are the odds either of them hit one to the outfield on the fly?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 23, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like this one devolved into a long, slow sucking sound. On the other hand, The Dark Knight...

was even longer: 2 1/2 hrs. whizzed by like 4.

At least on the way back from the movies I got to hear Joe Angel on satellite radio. Cool.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jul 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, it ain't over

Not until we score one less run in the ninth than we need to tie!

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

boy...

the “t” on these caps looks like it belongs in a soft serve logo.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, men, it's Score 3 Runs Or Get Back On the Cellar Elevator. Going down.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate you, Wilkerson.

That should have been a single and RBI.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Razor - stay hot!!

Just takes a fucking single!!

by O'sFan21 on Jul 22, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit.

They need to win tomorrow.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I might be going

They’ve won the first 3 games I attended this year.

by Brotz13 on Jul 22, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

G'night

this is the way it is

by fishoutawata on Jul 22, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Positives

Nick breaks out of his mini-slump
AJ continues to be awesome
MelMo is on fire

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 22, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And...it's...cellar time again! Hello-lo-lo? Is there an echo down here-here-here?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jul 22, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get over it, O'sFan21

Olson’s young, and he’s been thrown into the rotation. He obviously isn’t ready to be a regular starter, but this is what rebuilding looks like. In a year or so, he may be good enough, so give him a chance before labeling him as though he was some ungrateful 32-year old has-been.

by Birds Man of Bethesda on Jul 22, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Olson

I was willing to give Loewen a long leash because he had a lot of upside. But with Olson, I’m afraid he is what we thought he was. It’s a rebuilding year, so you might as well let him take his lumps. Hopefully, he’ll learn something and turn it around next year.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Jul 23, 2008 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, the good news, if any...

is that his whip is way down this year, his bb rate is down and his k rate is up. i’s sort of unsettling that his hr rate is up a bit.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 23, 2008 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think Left-Handed John Maine

Maybe he puts it together, maybe he doesn’t, but he should get a lot more chances.

by dkdc on Jul 23, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree...

he’s definitely not top of he rotation material, but there’s value in having homegrown, back end dudes. remember: look at how much $ was paid to carlos silva and kyle lohse! hell, o’s paid benson 7.5 mill to basically be placeholder.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 23, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Olson by himself isn't the problem.

If Olson was our #5, we’d be fine. The problem is, he’s our de facto #3. And there’s 2 guys in the rotation that are as bad, if not worse. One we could handle. Three? Yuk. We can’t exactly expect 4 days of rainouts after every game Guts pitches…..

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 23, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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