Manny to the DODGERS in 3-team trade
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Yup, Linda Cohn is breathlessly reporting on ESPNews that Manny has indeed been shipped to the Dodgers. From the BP chat:
- Manny Ramirez + $7 mil to LA
- Jason Bay to Boston
- Andy LaRoche, Bryan Morris (LA #1 in '06), Craig Hansen and Brandon Moss (both BOS) to PIT
So there you go. Manny, go be Manny on the Left Coast. And wear sunscreen.
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God bless the Dodgers
I wonder if Torre was really hot for this deal?
There's no crying in baseball
by elktonfan on Jul 31, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course he was
He gets a vet bat and gets to get rid of one of those meddlin’ kids! He really doesn’t like playing anyone any 30 if he can avoid it.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vets
The only vets the Dodgers have are Nomar and that grumpy mother fucker at second base.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check Left Field
and get back to me.
Andruw Jones?? Have you SEEN what he’s batting these days?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones
Pierre…yes. How many games has Jones played this year? He only got back into the lineup recently b/c of an injury.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many games has he played?
The number equals exactly that many too many. He is maybe the worst player in the league. I’d rather have Fahey.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 31, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This year? Hells yeah, bring on Lil' Bro.
Jones’s BA is .167. Not only is he not batting his own bloated weight, he’s not batting BRANDON’S weight.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
65 games, with almost 200 ABs
This isn’t a case of small sample size. Dude’s lost it. His OPS+ last year was 86, this year it’s 36. Dude’s SLG is .250. That’s slugging, dude. He’s freakin’ SLUGGING Two-Fiddy.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize he stinks
and misspoke about only have 2 vets. So the numbers is 4. My point was that they DO play a ton of younger players even if it is out of necessity…Loney, Martin, Ethier, Kemp, that kid at 3rd, Furcal (that may be a stretch), Kershaw is up.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ethier and Kemp are JUST NOW
getting a fair shot at playing, Loney should have been playing almost 2 years ago, and Torre is looking for excuses to keep Jones and/or Pierre in the lineup. He’s setting that team back at least 2 years.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy LaRoche will finally get to play
They’ve treated him like shit. I’m glad for him.
by pipkin on Jul 31, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really, really wanted him here.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
but we didn’t have enough to bring him in
by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 31, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers
The Dodgers gave up Andy LaRoche for 2 months of free Manny and 2 comp picks? Are you freaking kidding me?
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
by birdman on Jul 31, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And of Course
The Orioles respond by doing jack shit.
by ADLC on Jul 31, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly what are the O's supposed to do?
This attitude is fucking retarded.
"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08
by getxstoked on Jul 31, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just 11 years of annoyance bursting out....
ADLC will eventually learn to have the patience you and I have come to acquire…..
Have faith in Andy!
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duck, you have no choice but to be patient, or not pay any attention
The O’s have SUCKED for a long time. Waiting for this franchise to actually get its act together just may end up like Waiting For Godot.
by drj on Jul 31, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Believe in Andy MacPhail
Hopefully he doesn’t suffer disfguring burns on one side of his face and start flipping a coin to see it people live or die…
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, it's not over......
August is still to come, and ChadBrad and maybe even Razor and Jamie Walker, Boy! may yet fetch a Steve Trachsel-like price…
/Sorry for the Daughtry shout-out, but I just saw them, and they were actually pretty good.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, it's not over until August 31st.
And then, it’s only over until about the 1st of November.
"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08
by getxstoked on Jul 31, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much....
My deadline is August 31, 2010. Contend or die!
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DE State Fair?
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on Jul 31, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You betcha
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one will agree...
but I’m gonna miss seeing this crazy motherfucker now that he’s leaving the AL East…..he was always too big of a goofball for me to hate. Adios for now Manuel, if you re-up with the Dodgers, I hope to see you hitting bombs out of Chavez Ravine next year when I move out to Cali
by oriolez on Jul 31, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was OK with him...
until he assaulted a 62-year-old club employee for not giving him what he wanted the second he wanted it. ManRam asked for 16 tickets a few hours before a game at Houston, and got pissed when they didn’t magically appear that second. So he shoves a guy who should be collecting Social Security to the ground.
Fuck him, fuck Boston, and a reluctant Fuck You to the Dodgers for picking him up. I love the Dodgers too, but damn, this would be like the Ravens signing Leonard Little, really hard to defend.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Bay is no slouch
He is a guy I will miss seeing in person from those $8 LF bleacher seats over at PNC park when I’m at school.
by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 31, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Pirates make out quite well here
Oh, Dodgers! You dumb motherfuckers!
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 31, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much par for the course with them lately.
I was just hoping they would be dumb with US.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best part?
This comes right after Jeff Pearlman’s column on ESPN.com’s Page 2 ripping the Pirates a new one for giving away Marte and Nady to MFY.
by Brotz13 on Jul 31, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They kinda did, though
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just sayin'
It was funny timing. Maybe he lit a fire under Huntington’s ass.
by Brotz13 on Jul 31, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me say something else
The Red Sox just gave up Manny Ramirez, Craig Hansen, Brandon Moss and $7 million for Jason Bay.
That reads badly to me.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 31, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, when you put it like that...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
/poops self
//wipes tears from eye
Ah, classic.
I always say follow your dreams...even if they're about a giant spider with your father's head, and he keeps stealing your p*nis!
by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Jul 31, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, sure, if you put it THAT way....
I mean, besides that. Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Manny is 36 and didn’t want to be there. Hansen and Moss are good prospects but definitely replaceable (with how well the Sox scout and draft, and put money into their draft)
Money is not an issue for them either.
Jason Bay will put up comparable numbers, better defense and is 28. This lets the Sox continue without skipping a beat IMO. They can find plenty more B+ and C+ prospects.
by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 31, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm just sayin', but....
This season 
From ESPN.com
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing I would like to hear
at his press conference introducing him as a Dodger is a L.A. Times reporter asking…
“Manny, do you have any plans on assaulting any 62 year old Dodgers employees during your two months with the team?”
Let’s just say I’m not holding my breath.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait, what
Ramirez is hitting .299/.398/.529.
Bay is hitting .282/.375/.519.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 31, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just posting what they had
Any stats errors are theirs, not mine.
Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
ESPN.com news services
Updated: July 31, 2008, 6:46 PM ET
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what they have, actually
Read the name above the stats – the photos are above the wrong columns.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, a FEW of them are wrong
And Manny’s SLG is really wrong, apparently.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It IS espn, after all
The FoxNews of sports
by PhilR8 on Jul 31, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
you are saying they are right or wrong? I don’t get your humor.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saying something is the FoxNews
of an area is usually a bad thing.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the slugging percentages are wrong
I have no idea why that would happen since they have stats pages on ESPN, but hey.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at this fuckin quote from Gammons
Anyone who was watching John Lackey’s run at a no-hitter continued in the seventh inning Wednesday when Ramirez jogged to first in 5.7 seconds realizes that he is one of those rare, gifted athletes who cares nothing about winning, about the integrity of the game or his teammates. He can hit.
My God, grow up.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon, Manny's been dogging it
at times of his choosing since the incident with the traveling secretary when he got fined. You can’t say credibly that he hasn’t. I’m not saying he doesn’t care about his teammates – we have no way of knowing that. But the first two? There’s a case to be made that Gammons is right.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“The integrity of the game” is what gets me. What integrity of the game? Not running fast compromises the integrity of the game? Really?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammons also said
that acquiring Bay was the only way the Sox make the playoffs this year.
You read that right: acquiring a younger, slightly less productive player while giving up 3 prospects was the ONLY way that Boston makes the playoffs this year.
Gammons is such a girl when it comes to this team. I could have predicted that whatever Boston did with Manny would be the “right thing” by Gammons, no matter what it was.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on Aug 1, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's just silly
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Not running fast compromises the integrity of the game?"
Yeah, it does. If you’re not giving your best effort, you’re hurting your team’s chances to win.
And God knows we saw Miggy jog out enough balls for 4 years to know it when we see it. Not to mention Manny’s looking at 3 strikes down the middle in the same game, I believe….
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t get a read on it enough to say that Manny is throwing games.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not throwing games
but he’s not giving his team its best chance to win. That’s bad, too.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are a ton of guys that don’t hustle. To say Manny Ramirez compromises the integrity of the game is a bit much for my tastes. It’s sensationalistic is all.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Gammons is throwing a hissy fit, no doubt
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good old fashioned Boston media hit
When Boston wants to trade an aging player for a younger, less famous one, they trash the player and send them packing with RSN’s blessing.
Just ask Nomar.
by dkdc on Aug 1, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if they win the Series they’ll vote for Manny to get a ring. You know, just to show how big-hearted and appreciative they are.
Or maybe they’ll vote to send him one to stick up his ass. The way this one spilled out, I figure the latter is more likely. Also, they can only win with Jason Bay.
All other thoughts aside, I have to say this is the season where Manny bought a little too far into being Manny, maybe. Keeping it real went wrong.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're watching..."When Keepin' It Real Goes Wrong"
I don’t like people playin’ on my phone!
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 2, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not defending Manny. The guy is a goofball, and the stunts he has pulled would infuriate me if I employed him.
However, Gammons comes across as the underhanded red sox front office spokesman. It’s as if he’s been charged with dumping the dirt on Manny so they can remain above the fray.
Evidently Manny hasn’t cared about the “integrity of the game” for years. He takes off when he’s so inclined with mysterious ailments of various sorts. Now I am to understand that Gammons has gotten into Manny’s mind and can tell us he cares nothing about winning.
This is the same Gammons who was all atwitter in the pre-season about Manny the maniacal workout warrior (or some such stupid quote) who was now happy to be in Boston.
I guess Gammons will maintain his integrity and respect for the game and won’t vote for Manny for the HOF because of his character issues and the fact that he flaunts the game’s integrity.
by drj on Aug 1, 2008 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's how I read it, too
Like Gammons was so butthurt that Manny was tired of the situation in Boston (his own doing, partially his doing, or nothing to do with his doing aside) that he lashed out at him like a child might, except instead of, “What a dick!!” he said that Manny Ramirez doesn’t care about anything at all and he’s just a brain-dead mercenary who takes the integrity of this great, needle-and-greenies-filled sport and wipes his ass with it.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And some statistical relief for Baltimore...
Just this year, in 12 games, Manny has hit 5HR against us with a .375/.455/.750 line.
He’s been an Oriole killer for years:
192G 36HR 152RBI .316/.422/.530
So sayonara you crazy, fan-high-fivin’, dreadlock-wearin’, batting helmet tarrin’, defensive lapsin’, you being you’in MF’er.
Good riddance!
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on Aug 1, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Although
He did give us the “greatest play of all time”
http://reid.mlblogs.com/archives/2006/02/the_greatest_pl.html
That one brings a smile to my face every time.
by Reddrummer9187 on Aug 1, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’m happy not to have Manny in the AL East. It doesnt matter that much where he is in the AL but when he is focused he kicks Oriole ass.
I’m curious to hear the Boston take on this trade though – it looks like Boston was willing to give up some real talent to unload thcis guy.
AMA where are you?
Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.
by typozzz on Aug 1, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny trade
Two interesting things I heard from Buster Olney on XM Radio.
1) Theo had a meeting with the vets on the team and they wanted him off the team.
2) When Manny’s knee came up lame for the Yankees series, they sent him to the hospital. When he arrived at the hospital, his lame knee switched right before the MRI.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
by birdman on Aug 1, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
So they scanned both knees and came up with nothing.
I’m not saying dude doesn’t seem like he was being a super huge asshole this year, but Gammons’ fever pitch seemed a bit much.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll defend Manny for one moment
He was ABSOLUTELY right in the beef with Youk.
Youk has taken to looking like an absolute shithead after a strikeout or a badly timed groundout – screaming, throwing his helmet, throwing crap in the dugout. And apparently Manny called him on it – you’re making us look stupid and immature – and Youk took exception and decided squaring up on Manny was the right thing to do. Bad decision.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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