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Manny to the DODGERS in 3-team trade

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Mannyramirez_mediumYup, Linda Cohn is breathlessly reporting on ESPNews that Manny has indeed been shipped to the Dodgers. From the BP chat: 

  • Manny Ramirez + $7 mil to LA
  • Jason Bay to Boston
  • Andy LaRoche, Bryan Morris (LA #1 in '06), Craig Hansen and Brandon Moss (both BOS) to PIT

So there you go. Manny, go be Manny on the Left Coast. And wear sunscreen.

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God bless the Dodgers

I wonder if Torre was really hot for this deal?

There's no crying in baseball

by elktonfan on Jul 31, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Of course he was

He gets a vet bat and gets to get rid of one of those meddlin’ kids! He really doesn’t like playing anyone any 30 if he can avoid it.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Vets

The only vets the Dodgers have are Nomar and that grumpy mother fucker at second base.

Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark

by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

???

Im pretty sure Pierre and Jones have been in the league a decade or so.

by ADLC on Jul 31, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Check Left Field

and get back to me.

Andruw Jones?? Have you SEEN what he’s batting these days?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Jones

Pierre…yes. How many games has Jones played this year? He only got back into the lineup recently b/c of an injury.

Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark

by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

how many games has he played?

The number equals exactly that many too many. He is maybe the worst player in the league. I’d rather have Fahey.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 31, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

This year? Hells yeah, bring on Lil' Bro.

Jones’s BA is .167. Not only is he not batting his own bloated weight, he’s not batting BRANDON’S weight.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

65 games, with almost 200 ABs

This isn’t a case of small sample size. Dude’s lost it. His OPS+ last year was 86, this year it’s 36. Dude’s SLG is .250. That’s slugging, dude. He’s freakin’ SLUGGING Two-Fiddy.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I realize he stinks

and misspoke about only have 2 vets. So the numbers is 4. My point was that they DO play a ton of younger players even if it is out of necessity…Loney, Martin, Ethier, Kemp, that kid at 3rd, Furcal (that may be a stretch), Kershaw is up.

Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark

by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ethier and Kemp are JUST NOW

getting a fair shot at playing, Loney should have been playing almost 2 years ago, and Torre is looking for excuses to keep Jones and/or Pierre in the lineup. He’s setting that team back at least 2 years.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Torre

In all fairness it isn’t Torre’s fault they haven’t been playing before this year. Not playing this year is his fault. Damn…now you’ve got me defending Torre. Nevermind.

Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark

by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Andy LaRoche will finally get to play

They’ve treated him like shit. I’m glad for him.

by pipkin on Jul 31, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I really, really wanted him here.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Dodgers

The Dodgers gave up Andy LaRoche for 2 months of free Manny and 2 comp picks? Are you freaking kidding me?

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Jul 31, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

And of Course

The Orioles respond by doing jack shit.

by ADLC on Jul 31, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

exactly what are the O's supposed to do?

This attitude is fucking retarded.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 31, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's just 11 years of annoyance bursting out....

ADLC will eventually learn to have the patience you and I have come to acquire…..

Have faith in Andy!

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Duck, you have no choice but to be patient, or not pay any attention

The O’s have SUCKED for a long time. Waiting for this franchise to actually get its act together just may end up like Waiting For Godot.

by drj on Jul 31, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I Believe in Andy MacPhail

Hopefully he doesn’t suffer disfguring burns on one side of his face and start flipping a coin to see it people live or die…

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ah, it's not over......

August is still to come, and ChadBrad and maybe even Razor and Jamie Walker, Boy! may yet fetch a Steve Trachsel-like price…

/Sorry for the Daughtry shout-out, but I just saw them, and they were actually pretty good.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

exactly, it's not over until August 31st.

And then, it’s only over until about the 1st of November.

"We're excited about the future, but we also want to be excited about now." - Brian Roberts, 07/17/08

by getxstoked on Jul 31, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pretty much....

My deadline is August 31, 2010. Contend or die!

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

DE State Fair?

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Jul 31, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You betcha

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No one will agree...

but I’m gonna miss seeing this crazy motherfucker now that he’s leaving the AL East…..he was always too big of a goofball for me to hate. Adios for now Manuel, if you re-up with the Dodgers, I hope to see you hitting bombs out of Chavez Ravine next year when I move out to Cali

by oriolez on Jul 31, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I was OK with him...

until he assaulted a 62-year-old club employee for not giving him what he wanted the second he wanted it. ManRam asked for 16 tickets a few hours before a game at Houston, and got pissed when they didn’t magically appear that second. So he shoves a guy who should be collecting Social Security to the ground.

Fuck him, fuck Boston, and a reluctant Fuck You to the Dodgers for picking him up. I love the Dodgers too, but damn, this would be like the Ravens signing Leonard Little, really hard to defend.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Jason Bay is no slouch

He is a guy I will miss seeing in person from those $8 LF bleacher seats over at PNC park when I’m at school.

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 31, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

the Pirates make out quite well here

Oh, Dodgers! You dumb motherfuckers!

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 31, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Pretty much par for the course with them lately.

I was just hoping they would be dumb with US.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The best part?

This comes right after Jeff Pearlman’s column on ESPN.com’s Page 2 ripping the Pirates a new one for giving away Marte and Nady to MFY.

by Brotz13 on Jul 31, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

They kinda did, though

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Just sayin'

It was funny timing. Maybe he lit a fire under Huntington’s ass.

by Brotz13 on Jul 31, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

let me say something else

The Red Sox just gave up Manny Ramirez, Craig Hansen, Brandon Moss and $7 million for Jason Bay.

That reads badly to me.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 31, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Well, when you put it like that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/poops self
//wipes tears from eye

Ah, classic.

I always say follow your dreams...even if they're about a giant spider with your father's head, and he keeps stealing your p*nis!

by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Jul 31, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well, sure, if you put it THAT way....

I mean, besides that. Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well

Manny is 36 and didn’t want to be there. Hansen and Moss are good prospects but definitely replaceable (with how well the Sox scout and draft, and put money into their draft)

Money is not an issue for them either.

Jason Bay will put up comparable numbers, better defense and is 28. This lets the Sox continue without skipping a beat IMO. They can find plenty more B+ and C+ prospects.

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 31, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

And I'm just sayin', but....

This season

From ESPN.com

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

One thing I would like to hear

at his press conference introducing him as a Dodger is a L.A. Times reporter asking…

“Manny, do you have any plans on assaulting any 62 year old Dodgers employees during your two months with the team?”

Let’s just say I’m not holding my breath.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

wait, what

Ramirez is hitting .299/.398/.529.

Bay is hitting .282/.375/.519.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 31, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm just posting what they had

Any stats errors are theirs, not mine.

Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal

ESPN.com news services

Updated: July 31, 2008, 6:46 PM ET

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That's what they have, actually

Read the name above the stats – the photos are above the wrong columns.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

OK, a FEW of them are wrong

And Manny’s SLG is really wrong, apparently.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

So...

you are saying they are right or wrong? I don’t get your humor.

Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark

by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Saying something is the FoxNews

of an area is usually a bad thing.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I know...

I know.

Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark

by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

the slugging percentages are wrong

I have no idea why that would happen since they have stats pages on ESPN, but hey.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

look at this fuckin quote from Gammons
Anyone who was watching John Lackey’s run at a no-hitter continued in the seventh inning Wednesday when Ramirez jogged to first in 5.7 seconds realizes that he is one of those rare, gifted athletes who cares nothing about winning, about the integrity of the game or his teammates. He can hit.

My God, grow up.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

C'mon, Manny's been dogging it

at times of his choosing since the incident with the traveling secretary when he got fined. You can’t say credibly that he hasn’t. I’m not saying he doesn’t care about his teammates – we have no way of knowing that. But the first two? There’s a case to be made that Gammons is right.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

“The integrity of the game” is what gets me. What integrity of the game? Not running fast compromises the integrity of the game? Really?

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think

that not running fast b/c your ass is sore from the needle compromises the integrity of the game.

Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark

by BPinOK on Jul 31, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Gammons also said

that acquiring Bay was the only way the Sox make the playoffs this year.

You read that right: acquiring a younger, slightly less productive player while giving up 3 prospects was the ONLY way that Boston makes the playoffs this year.

Gammons is such a girl when it comes to this team. I could have predicted that whatever Boston did with Manny would be the “right thing” by Gammons, no matter what it was.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Aug 1, 2008 12:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well, that's just silly

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 1, 2008 10:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

"Not running fast compromises the integrity of the game?"

Yeah, it does. If you’re not giving your best effort, you’re hurting your team’s chances to win.

And God knows we saw Miggy jog out enough balls for 4 years to know it when we see it. Not to mention Manny’s looking at 3 strikes down the middle in the same game, I believe….

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 1, 2008 10:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I just can’t get a read on it enough to say that Manny is throwing games.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Aug 1, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He's not throwing games

but he’s not giving his team its best chance to win. That’s bad, too.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 1, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

There are a ton of guys that don’t hustle. To say Manny Ramirez compromises the integrity of the game is a bit much for my tastes. It’s sensationalistic is all.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Aug 1, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Oh, Gammons is throwing a hissy fit, no doubt

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 1, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Good old fashioned Boston media hit

When Boston wants to trade an aging player for a younger, less famous one, they trash the player and send them packing with RSN’s blessing.

Just ask Nomar.

by dkdc on Aug 1, 2008 4:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Maybe if they win the Series they’ll vote for Manny to get a ring. You know, just to show how big-hearted and appreciative they are.

Or maybe they’ll vote to send him one to stick up his ass. The way this one spilled out, I figure the latter is more likely. Also, they can only win with Jason Bay.

All other thoughts aside, I have to say this is the season where Manny bought a little too far into being Manny, maybe. Keeping it real went wrong.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Aug 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs