Gameday Thread: Rangers (44-42) @ O's (43-41)
by SC
on Jul 4, 2008 10:00 AM EDT
Texas @ Baltimore
4:35 :: MASN :: 85° NW 6 MPH :: Rain: 50%
Today's Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA HR BB K W-L Vicente Padilla - RH - #44 17 104.2 4.13 1.39 .261 19 40 71 10-4 Jeremy Guthrie - RH - #46 18 115.2 3.50 1.20 .239 15 34 74 4-7
Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. "Mankind" -- that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests.
Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution. But from annihilation. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist.
And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day the world declared, in one voice: "We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!" We're going to live on! We're going to survive!
Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
IN THE WORDS OF MY GENERATION...
UP YOURS!!!
Rangers AB AVG OBP HR RBI 1 Ian Kinsler - 2B 353 .323 .381 13 50 2 Michael Young - SS 347 .288 .339 7 45 3 Josh Hamilton - CF 334 .308 .364 19 82 4 Milton Bradley - RF 247 .320 .437 17 51 5 David Murphy - LF 319 .266 .306 10 52 6 Frank Catalanotto - DH 172 .291 .368 2 10 7 Chris Davis - 1B 19 .316 .381 3 7 8 Jarrod Saltalamacchia - C 125 .216 .333 3 17 9 Ramon Vazquez - 3B 188 .314 .380 5 28
O's AB AVG OBP HR RBI 1 Freddie Bynum - SS 99 .192 .238 0 5 2 Nick Markakis - RF 319 .288 .390 12 41 3 Aubrey Huff - DH 315 .283 .349 17 52 4 Ramon Hernandez - C 242 .252 .295 7 32 5 Luke Scott - LF 247 .271 .348 14 33 6 Melvin Mora - 3B 298 .228 .296 10 40 7 Kevin Millar - 1B 292 .236 .335 11 44 8 Adam Jones - CF 297 .276 .317 4 33 9 Brandon Fahey - 2B 38 .211 .231 0 4
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I guess everything I ever wanted to know
about why Wins are a useless measure of a pitcher’s performance is encapsulated in today’s starters.
Guthrie has a better BAA (by a lot), a better ERA (by a lot), a better WHIP, more Ks, fewer walks, fewer HR allowed, and all of that in more innings pitched than Padilla. Yet Padilla is 10-4 and Guts is 4-7.
Wow.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 4, 2008 10:27 AM EDT 0 recs
Consistent offense from the Rangers
Stupid Rudy Jaramillo.
by Dr Orpheus on
Jul 4, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
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Storm Davis, 1989-- Bill James' favorite illustration of the phenomenon of meaningless wins
Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M
by Titov on
Jul 4, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
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"Aubrey Huff - can you feel the sizzle!!!???"
I can’t believe that was actually said.
Can you feel the sizzle!?
by Y Not on Jul 4, 2008 11:29 AM EDT 0 recs
didn't ... um .... SIDNEY PONSON ... pitch for texas?
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on Jul 4, 2008 12:36 PM EDT 0 recs
Wieters hit his first homer in Double-A last night
And Reimhold hit two.
These are the moments that make me giddy.
by Dr Orpheus on Jul 4, 2008 12:46 PM EDT 0 recs
Also, from Roch...
Rocky Cherry and Esteban Yan combined for five scoreless innings. Salazar has a 14-game hitting streak.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Jul 4, 2008 2:01 PM EDT
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Alright, guys, last night was a disappointment...
So, what you need to do this afternoon is go out there, and lay the beating of a lifetime on these pricks.
No, really, that’s it.
by getxstoked on Jul 4, 2008 1:16 PM EDT 0 recs
Don't forget
and give up at least ONE less run they you score.
That’s kinda important, too.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Jul 4, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
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^they = than
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Jul 4, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
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They seemed to have forgotten that part last night
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Jul 4, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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or, to parse it a different way,
make it a command and change one word:
give up one less run; then, you score.
you know, they’d start the first without allowing a run, and then they’d plate some.
by zknower on
Jul 4, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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GO O's!
Off to a family 7/4 BBQ, so keep the faith, guys.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Jul 4, 2008 2:10 PM EDT 0 recs
I COULDA BEEN AT A BBQ
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Lets see some magic
i’m playing a party today so i wont know what happened for a while. greet me pleasantly when i come home, k?
i’ll be down to bmore for the next 2 games after today, so anyone else going, let me know. good times.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on Jul 4, 2008 2:27 PM EDT 0 recs
Any chance for a clean save tonight?
These guys just performed pretty well against the Yankees- after our performance against the Nats and Royals I hope the relief pitching can hold up! This would be one hell of a 4th of July present; I’d like to see us play them like we played the Cubs. Any chance Sherrill gets ‘em three-up three-down for a save?
Did y’all see Sherrill’s comments in SI? They asked him who he would want to play him in a movie, and he went with Denzel Washington. Odd choice, but it WOULD be awesome to be played by Denzel…
Check out a new Baltimore sports blog: aroundtheharbor.blogspot.com
by bmorewolverine on Jul 4, 2008 3:00 PM EDT 0 recs
best of luck to y'all, too
Except today. And the next couple.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
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this will be a good series... no doubt...
...and i think after the seasons we both had last year… all you can ask for is entertaining baseball…
by oc on
Jul 4, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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screw 'em
if they wanna post stuff like this then theres no reason to be a good sport.
besides, we may have sucked for the past 10 years, but they havent finished better then next to lastin the past 8. and, oh yea, have never won a WS (although they did win 1 playoff game once…)
ps – while the graphic pissed me off, its pretty sweet. well done, whoever made it…
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on
Jul 4, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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take another angle, man...
...Bedard was two singles away from a perfect game last year… faced the minimum 27…
i’d say the 30-3 massacre evened things out…
by oc on
Jul 4, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
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since it's in oc's post...
...i’m guessing s/he made it.
the font on “losers” is particularly well done.
by zknower on
Jul 4, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
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Graphic didn’t piss me off. They’ve never been past the first round of the playoffs in their history. So woopty doo.
I enjoy games against the Rangers, ‘cause we’re playing in our nice park or their nice park.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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All-Star game commercial
I will admit that I am excited for the final All-Star game at Yankee Stadium, and that I do think that dump is pretty special.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:35 PM EDT 0 recs
nice hats
Red white and EW.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:36 PM EDT 0 recs
Happy 4th Everybody!
I have to listen to the game today because I’m blacked out on mlb.tv.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jul 4, 2008 4:39 PM EDT 0 recs
ah, right
This is YOUR pain in the ass series. Chicago for me.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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yeah screw that
I don’t even live in Texas.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on
Jul 4, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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I don't live in Illinois
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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I gave it a cold.
Virus.
...computer…virus.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:39 PM EDT 0 recs
Brian Bob is sick?
But man, that was a nice stop by Freddy, too bad that Kinsler is a little bit fast.
by getxstoked on Jul 4, 2008 4:40 PM EDT 0 recs
I love that Dave chose essentially the worst possible choice for leadoff man, too.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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I'd rather see Nick or AJ leading off...
personally
by getxstoked on
Jul 4, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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figured he'd use AJ
Since he did that earlier this season in that double header at Texas when Brian got a game off.
I mean, jesus, Bynum?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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And those star-spangled hats
Look much better with the Nats navy road gear
by getxstoked on Jul 4, 2008 4:42 PM EDT 0 recs
yeah
They’d look OK with the Rangers colors. But we wear fucken orange. Fugly.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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at least we're not the A's.
that’s going to be eye-searing…the Brewers look ok with them, as well, as they went with their navy alts.
by getxstoked on
Jul 4, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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I like Josh Hamilton and all, but I’ve never understood “he got caught up with the wrong crowd.” He was PART OF that crowd.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:44 PM EDT 0 recs
huh?...
...a high-school kid signs for millions…
...parents get in a car accident…
...depression sinks in… starts hanging out with the wrong crowd…
that shouldn’t sound like an unfamiliar story.
by oc on
Jul 4, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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“The wrong crowd” is the issue I have.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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also
Again, I REALLY like Hamilton. For one thing he’s a hell of a ballplayer, and for another thing he has overcome a lot to get where he is today. Lots of guys never would’ve soldiered past all that stuff.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
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jesus
Bradley is straight raking this season. 1-0 Rangers.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:45 PM EDT 0 recs
hey n'awlins oriole, i have a question
i’m in ny …. would i be blacked out if i used your ID / pass to watch game?
would you be blacked out of you used mine?
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on Jul 4, 2008 4:49 PM EDT 0 recs
i think it's tied to credit card ZIP code.
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on
Jul 4, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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you would
i tried this with dayzd last year. they go by where the account is registered.
by zknower on
Jul 4, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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those clever, clever bastards
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on
Jul 4, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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yeah I think it recognizes where your computer is.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on
Jul 4, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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from all I've heard
They fixed that loophole.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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by the way
This has nothing to do with anything happening today, but in case anyone possibly thinks they miss Corey Patterson, go take a peek at his numbers this season.
He belongs in AA.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:49 PM EDT 0 recs
holla!
12-game hit streak for Markickass.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:51 PM EDT 0 recs
seriously, why did bynum lead off?
are they thinking he’ll see better pitches or something?
by zknower on Jul 4, 2008 4:51 PM EDT 0 recs
they're not thinking at all
Although I will offer up possible explanations:
1. He’s fast!
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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scratch that
didn’t realize “sizzlin’ aubrey” was up
by zknower on
Jul 4, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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where in hell would we be w/o markake
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on Jul 4, 2008 4:51 PM EDT 0 recs
about 33-51
considering the potential replacements for him.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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by god i bet you're not far off
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on
Jul 4, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
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something or other
Maybe he made out with Burres and got mono.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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HUFF
HE HITS THE BALL TOO HARD FOR DAVIS TO FIELD IT
1-1
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jul 4, 2008 4:53 PM EDT 0 recs
so, seriously.
what will we get for huff at the deadline? he is definitely heading out of town.
by zknower on Jul 4, 2008 4:54 PM EDT 0 recs
hmmm. don't be too sure ....
don’t we have him cheap for next year?
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on
Jul 4, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
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It would be absolutely counter-productive to keep him the way he’s hitting.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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but don't trade him for nothing
I should say that.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jul 4, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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SELL HIGH.
Let’s get a good SS prospect for him. Why would we need him next year when we can get young players for him this year?
by zknower on
Jul 4, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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