Jays 7, O's 6: Unearned runs count on the board, too

OK, that's it. I'm through with Game In Hand situations.

This team cannot have a Game In Hand. It can’t even hold its d#ck in its hand.

Yep: That’s what she said.

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jul 8, 2008 10:42 PM EDT 0 recs

fuck

just… fuck

by joet on Jul 8, 2008 10:49 PM EDT 0 recs

Please, lords of baseball,

tell me that we don’t face Roy Halliday, too.
When can we start trading players?
This team, if it wins 80 games, will have performed miracles.

by Lothar on Jul 8, 2008 10:58 PM EDT 0 recs

We do face Halladay

but it Guts going up against him on Thursday. Might see 2 CGs and a game time of 1:45 for that one….

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 9, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

We should have beaten Halliday last time.

And Luke Scott hit two HRs off him, so there’s that.

by getxstoked on Jul 9, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

Am I the only person on CC who has trouble sleeping

after games like this?
I know I will just lie there and curse Freddie Bynum until at least 2 a.m.
No, maybe I should curse DD for putting him in the game.
Mora, Bynum, Fahey….Jesus, has it come to this?

by Lothar on Jul 8, 2008 11:04 PM EDT 0 recs

Nope

It’s seriously starting to mess with my moods. I think I’m ready for an O’s vacation, just to regain my sanity. I don’t think I need toi see us get swept at PHN this weekend.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 8, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

This team is not worth the angst

They suck. They’ve sucked for years. I don’t recall quotes over the years from the FO about having problems with losing. Perhaps you’ve cared more than the owner for all these years.

The team will still suck for years more while we see if AM can straighten it out. Keep the expectations low.

by drj on Jul 9, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up 0 recs

exactly

I still don’t really try to expect to win a single game, I just get dissapointed when we go below 5-5 in a 10 game set. It’s only happened once this year.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 9, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up 0 recs

so it's basically like

I don’t get pissed at the team until the 7-8th game, so that’s a good 6 days of happiness.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 9, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up 0 recs

I am concerned

about the recent spike in this team’s level of FAIL.
Very concerned.

"This ain't a football game. We do this every day."

by Fear and Trembley on Jul 8, 2008 11:15 PM EDT 0 recs

I really am at a loss for words

all I can say is SHIT SHIT SHIT!

Geaux Eaux's

by NawlinsOriole on Jul 8, 2008 11:46 PM EDT 0 recs

Be optimistic

For example, I got off work at around 9:25, and I work pizza deliveries, so I’m listening to the game the whole time.

made work a lot better, ‘cause I love the feeling of an easy win…

even though we eventually lost.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 9, 2008 12:09 AM EDT 0 recs

Useless but interesting fact

The Orioles have now allowed 417 runs and scored 417 runs, so the .500 record is harmonious with the Pythagorean record.

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2008 8:09 AM EDT 0 recs

it was even in harmony BEFORE yesterday's game...

sorta weird.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Jul 9, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up 0 recs

new nickname for bynum...

...5 hole

by patientoriolesfan on Jul 9, 2008 8:30 AM EDT 0 recs

+1

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 9, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up 0 recs

We need to win 2 out of 3

If we don’t do that, we’ve officially started to “backtrack.”

We’ve been here so many times during the year, being stuck 2-3 or 3-4, but then we start playing better and we finish the set 5-5 or 6-4.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 9, 2008 9:00 AM EDT 0 recs

Is it THAT time?

of the year… I’m wary.

"Jeremy Guthrie’s funny. Sneaky funny. Smart funny. Stanford funny."
-Kevbo

by dayzd toe on Jul 9, 2008 9:04 AM EDT 0 recs

Yup

You watch – 1 out of 3 against the Blow Jays, swept by the PHN….I got a bad feeling about this.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 9, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up 0 recs

You know what

I’m totally at peace with this. I’m going to sound all drj-esque about this. We can’t afford for this team to give the illusion of being competitive. We need to trade Aubrey & Co. I’ll never root for them to lose, and I’ll still get mad when dumbass errors by Ramon and Freddie lose the game, but this really is just the team coming back to its true playing level. And that will more easily allow MacPhail to do his thing.

That being said, this was a shitty, shitty loss. I missed most of it because I was at my grandfather’s 85th birthday party, but I saw the end. You can’t win on my granddad’s birthday, O’s? Thanks a lot.

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 AM EDT up 0 recs

I’m all for giving your granddad a shot at SS at this point. He’s gotta take matters into his own hands if he expects the O’s to win on his birthday. :-)

"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron

by BrianS on Jul 9, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up 0 recs

we need a spark from the 'pen

please let it be alberto castillo.

the loss of matt albers has been so bad for team.

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 AM EDT 0 recs

Alberto Castillo's WHIP is infinite right now....

"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."

by spike2131 on Jul 9, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up 0 recs

what do you expect from a backup catcher?

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up 0 recs

Now's the time...

....to pull the trigger on the Brian Roberts trade with the Cubbies. Now don’t go all postal on me, folks, without listening to my reasoning. Freddie Bynum, Luis Hernandez, Alex Cintron, Brandon Fahey? Enough said there, with our Triple-A carousel at the SS position. Trade Roberts and insist on getting back Ronny Cedeno, Sean Marshall (both previously mentioned in trade) as well as Mike Fontenot (if his name sounds familiar, he’s from our minor league system). This gives us another pitcher to stock up on, as well as a 2B/SS combination for years to come. Next, sign Texiera for whatever it takes, and bam, there we are, set for the future. Buh-bye, Brian! (take Freddie Bynum w/ you)

Rexx

by Rexx on Jul 9, 2008 9:17 AM EDT 0 recs

uhhh

I’m all for trading Roberts in the right deal, but that’s not the right deal.

I’d rather watch Bynum and Fahey bumble around for the rest of the year than make a desperation trade and cash in one of our most valuable assets for pennies on the dollar.

by dkdc on Jul 9, 2008 9:23 AM EDT up 0 recs

I think that ship has sailed

Especially with the Cubs giving up prospects to the A’s yesterday. I agree with the premise, though.

"We’re not concerned about what other teams think. I know teams come in here thinking we’re playing the Orioles. And then 9 innings later, they got the loss, they know what we’re about." ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up 0 recs

I think people should be concerned if all of Huff, Sherrill, Roberts, and Cabrera are on the team by the end of the year. I’d prefer to see some gone in July. The O’s have to see if they can sell high and continue the rebuilding.

Or will MacPhail and Angelos go the Oriole Way. That is keep them around, go hard after Tex, give up draft picks with some FA pick up (probably another pitcher or Eckstein) and hope they can “compete” by winning a whole 86 games in 2009? This is the modern Oriole Way.

BTW, I’m not thinking the Cubs are in a trading mood after the Harden deal. It will be interesting to see if Beane sold high there.

by drj on Jul 9, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up 0 recs

Huff and Sherrill are MUST trades

Their value will never be higher.

Remind me what B-Rob’s contract status is, and I’ll tell you if we HAVE to deal him this summer.

Danny? He’s young, still relatively cheap, and as frustrating as last night was, a decent bullpen gets us a win.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 9, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

Roberts is signed through 2009

by punkrawka on Jul 9, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Most of our FAs are signed through '09, in fact

Huff and Hernandez as well.

by punkrawka on Jul 9, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

Then B-Rob can wait

until the right deal, and if that’s this winter, so be it.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 9, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

if we want to trade Roberts to a team in the NL Central

we should trade with Milwaukee, they have better prospects and a terrible second baseman

by math_geek on Jul 9, 2008 10:27 AM EDT up 0 recs

The Cubs aren’t going to trade for Roberts. They’re OK with what they have, and just gave away Sean Gallagher for dead arm Rich Harden. Also if we do, I don’t want Mike Fontenot back in the deal. He’s almost as old as Roberts and despite nice results in his part-time service this year, he’s just not very good.

But I do agree we should look into trading Roberts. Probably this winter, though. I also really think Roberts will age well for the next five years or so, so I’m not in the biggest rush to get rid of him. He’s not Huff or Sherrill, the former of whom is outperforming every projection in the world and the latter of whom is racking up an overrated counting stat (and is a genuinely good lefty reliever, to boot). Those guys have to go. I love the flat breezy, too, but I’ll live with Jim Johnson or someone closing games out the rest of the year.

“Whatever it takes” is not the Teixeira deal I like, either. That’s how you wind up paying Derek Jeter $20 million to hit .284/.345/.390 with four home runs in the middle of July, or how you wind up in the position the Rangers found themselves with A-Rod. If he can be signed, then do it, because he’s a good player. But I don’t want to wind up with one of those albatross contracts, especially if a Teixeira-only team still struggles to get to 80 wins and Angelos decides he now has no more money and it’s time to belt tighten. I do agree with offering maybe 15% more than the highest bidder will, but that’s no guarantee either. Vlad Guerrero and Paul Konerko on lines 1 and 2.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 9, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm glad i got my Keg-er-ator hooked up before that game

I was in a coma by the 6th inning.

"Daddy, is Hevan like BIRDLAND?"
"No son, Hevan is BIRDLAND."

by BENNY BIRDMAN on Jul 9, 2008 11:43 AM EDT 0 recs

All of

Kegerator? All of CC is crashing your house for tonight’s game.

by blawk359 on Jul 9, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up 0 recs

Seriously

What’s your address again?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Jul 9, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

That’s awesome. You probably passed out thinking the Orioles had won.

"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron

by BrianS on Jul 9, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up 0 recs

+1

Also, I envy that guy on last night’s thread who listened to the game while delivering pizzas, aparently having a great time doing it ‘cause it was obviously an Orioles win—and yet he somehow didn’t kill anyone (named Freddie or Ramon, say) after it turned out that it wasn’t.

Hey, maybe he delivered one to BENNY before the 6th…

Rah Rah Rasputin / Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that / Really loved Birds. -- Boney M

by Titov on Jul 9, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up 0 recs