Hello, our friends, we meet again
It's been a while. Where should we begin? Feels like forever.
Yeah that's some Creed, wanna fighdabouddit?
The 2008 rivalry between the Seattle Mariners and Baltimore Orioles really started on February 8, 2008.
That was the day we traded Erik Bedard to the hopeful Mariners, who thought their 88-74 season in '07 was no fluke (it was), and that Bedard probably pushed them into serious contention (he didn't).
Let's compare the results of this trade. Bedard has gone 4-4 with a 4.26 ERA and 1.30 WHIP in 61 1/3 innings for the Mariners. He currently sits on the DL with "left shoulder stiffness." He is VORPin' a cool 11.0 this year.
And then there's Adam Jones. Happy 23rd birthday, big guy! Jones is hitting .274/.317/.403 -- not a world-beater yet, but he can clearly play. He's also a funny dude and is destined to be a long-time fan favorite. AdRock's VORP is 9.3.
George Sherrill is overrated as all hell by his 30 saves (4.23/1.46), but he had a great performance as the O's lone All-Star and has done a nice gap-filling job as the closer, a role for which he's just not particularly suited. That's not his fault; he's best maximized as a LOOGy who can not totally die against right-handed hitting, but he's done his job.
We won't even count the prospects we got back.
The Mariners came to town on April 4 for a four-game set. We swept them right the hell out of town, a series that included the amazing Luis Hernandez as Hero moment, his game-winning single that propelled the O's to a 3-2 win and popularized the phrase "This is Birdland." It was Luis Hernandez and that win that made "Birdland" go from laughable marketing gimmick to something bigger that we now love.
Later in the month, we went out to Seattle, lost the first game, and then won the next two, including a big comeback in game three sparked by a Jay Payton home run and -- if I may be so bold -- my own personal, undying optimism (which has since died).
But baseball moves fast. Luis Hernandez isn't with us anymore, nor is the outstanding honorary Oriole in the Mariners bullpen, Eric O'Flaherty.
But all great rivalries must begin anew, really, year-by-year. Players come and go -- it's the passion and joy that makes fierce competitions like Orioles-Mariners what they are.
The last time we saw Seattle, Lookout Landing user 'Happybelly' remarked, "Get the Orioles the f--k out of here."
Look out -- here we come again!
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The Nats
Paul LoDuca, Johnny Estrada, and Felipe Lopez all got released…
I’m not sure it really matters at all, though.
Bring Tex Home.
by dtuck81 on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not unless you're somebody playing for Columbus
and looking for your shot at the bigs, I would think.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 1, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
dukes is coming back from the DL and i guess they’re going to start playing bonifacio and gonzalez. why not, huh?
wonder if macphail takes a flyer on lopez now that the cost is basically nothing.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 1, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lopez
I imagine he would have to take a flyer. The O’s shortstops have batted .220/.253/.280, even Lopez and his crappy .619 OPS would be a vast improvement on that. And who knows, maybe they’ll catch lightning in a bottle and Lopez improves on his numbers. Either way, theres no young SS in waiting and Lopez is an obvious upgrade. As sad as it is, this could be a try out for next year too.
by UMterp08 on Aug 1, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind at all
Having Juan Castro on the major league roster is an insult. What asshole thought he was genuinely some sort of upgrade on Luis Hernandez or Freddie Bynum? Castro has been proving he has no business in the major leagues since 1995.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
He is better than Luis Hernandez.
Little Louie currently has a .419 OPS in AAA.
It’s still hard for me to understand how a major league team would go into a season with that guy as their starter.
by dkdc on Aug 1, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because they thought his empty .290 in extreme spot duty last year meant something.
My point is if you’re going to have a really awful player, why go FIND one who’s in his mid-30s instead of just using one of the two turds you’ve already got?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your point
Juan Castro is terrible.
Andy’s gotta do something about this SS thing this winter. How hard can it be to find a replacement level SS in his 20s?
by dkdc on Aug 1, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the guy in his mid-30s is half off a good player...
Meaning that his glove is an asset, as opposed to the liability it is with Bynum or Hernandez.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 1, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one with a career OPS+ of 56 is half of a good player. If he was Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith with the leather he’d suck. And he’s 36. He’s inexcusable.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 1, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez, Mark Belanger managed a career OPS+ of 68
and he was a horrible hitter with a great glove.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luis
Is now mashing down in AAA to the tune of (.180/.206/.205)
by Reddrummer9187 on Aug 1, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the monster mash
He’s still prolly the best option at short even now…
(I’m not being serious incidentally!)
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Aug 1, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Mariners will get their revenge
It’s August, so it’s time for the tailspin to start.
by dkdc on Aug 1, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
especially...
since the o’s just took 2/3 from the yanks and the m’s are 4-9 since the break. come on, lads! dash that hope!
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 1, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bedard
Anyone find it ironic/funny that after the negative comments Bedard made about the O’s this offseason (some of them deserved), that he now finds himself on the biggest disaster of an organization in the majors and has been routinely blasted by their fans, management, and press?
by UMterp08 on Aug 1, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I find it hilarious
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will the Orioles be wearing their Eric O’Flaherty memorial sleeve patches tonight?
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Aug 1, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Y'all may hate me...
but SOMEONE’S got to post the link….
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
best part of that pic
Is that it looks like there were only ten people to witness that that game ever took place.
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Aug 1, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I count AT LEAST 14 in that shot....
Let’s not exaggerate…
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Aug 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at that game!
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
by Stacey on Aug 4, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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