Gameday Thread: O's (56-60) @ Indians (52-64)
by SC
on Aug 11, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
Baltimore Orioles @ Cleveland Indians
| Today's Starting Pitchers | GS | IP | ERA | WHIP | BAA | HR | BB | K | W-L | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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Dennis Sarfate - RH | 2 (47) | 57.0 | 4.58 | 1.54 | .214 | 5 | 45 | 58 | 4-2 |
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Fausto Carmona - RH | 13 | 70.2 | 4.46 | 1.64 | .261 | 2 | 47 | 31 | 5-4 |
What's all this then?! Oh, just a couple of last-place teams, playing out the string.
The O's are pretty much exactly what they should be given their performance this season. Never have we had the type of hot streak where eight or ten wins get rattled off, because the team just isn't constructed for that sort of thing. But we've also avoided the totally defeating cold streaks, which has been nice. 56-60 on August 11 when this season started would've been a huge thumbs up from me. And it is.
The Indians have a Pythagorean W-L of 59-57, so they're probably a better team than their record, but either way their 2008 has been a massive disappointment. They came within one win of the 2007 World Series and now they're in last place. Sabathia's gone, Hafner may as well be, Victor Martinez has been hurt (Kelly Shoppach's done an excellent job, though), I think we can safely say that Asdrubal Cabrera didn't work out like they hoped, and today's starter, Fausto Carmona, has stunk it up in 13 starts this season after an excellent '07.
They do have Cliff Lee (16-2, 2.45 ERA) who should rightfully win the Cy Young award. And Grady Sizemore is a hell of a player. But this has been a lost season for Cleveland.
Burn on, big river...burn on.
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HA!
sirefarty vs. carmona? oh, i see THIS ending well.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT 0 recs
This is the first time Cleaveland has seen Sarfate...
the Angels and Yankees both knew exactly what he threw.
So, I have a little more hope for tonight
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on
Aug 11, 2008 5:37 PM EDT
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I have a little more hope because the Indians aren’t as good as the Angels or Yankees.
That hope is squashed, really, by the fact that Sarfate has trouble throwing strikes.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 6:09 PM EDT
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Sarfate's wife set him straight
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-osnotes810,0,7831075.story
Apparently he was “trying too hard”.
Perhaps he won’t try at all tonight. How could it be worse?
by dkdc on
Aug 11, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
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Brian Burres is due to step it up, too. He knows how!
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
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Cy Young
I agree that Cliff Lee has to be leading it right now; but nobody seems to be talking that much about Roy Halladay. Roy’s ERA is right there, 2.72, and he has over 20 more innings.
Roy probably won’t get much consideration because of his W/L record; as if it’s his he gets no run support.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Aug 11, 2008 6:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Longoria to DL with broken wrist
That really, really sucks.
by dkdc on Aug 11, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 0 recs
uh oh
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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Boston seems to have their own problems recently
Apparently Buchhotz may not be the second coming of Roger Clemens. And Wakefield just went on the DL as well.
Although probably isn’t a great idea to equate Wakefield with Longoria.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on
Aug 11, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
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might as well
Wake’s been pretty f’n good this season.
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
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Especially with Crawford going down the other day
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by BirdFanInPhilly on
Aug 11, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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this is far more damaging
Crawford really isn’t that great and has proven this year that if he doesn’t hit .300 there’s not a whole lot happening.
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
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"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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Skeptical Willie Sez:
How many MVPs does Carl Crawford have?
by dkdc on
Aug 11, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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God, I loved me some
Willie McGee
"Mora looked pretty good running the bases tonight when he hit that home run," Dave Trembley.
by Bee the Ball on
Aug 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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Playing the Indians makes me miss decent O’s teams.
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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oh sweet
Extra Innings has home and away TV tonight, so I can avoid SportsTime Ohio. You wanna talk all-time bad TV stations… that’s up there. It looks like they broadcast from someone’s basement.
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 6:51 PM EDT 0 recs
oh jesus
Here we go.
“Mora has really done a great job.”
Fuck? Lately, sure. Clutch, clutch, clutch. “Versatility.”
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Well,
at least he’s not horrible? That’s something, right?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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I think Mora hasn't gotten enough credit around here.
I mean an RBI is an RBI, right?
There, I said it.
by fishoutawata on
Aug 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Gaaaaaaaaack
By RBI, Mora is better than Markakis. Does anyone really believe that?
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by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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No, but it still counts
And his defense has been ok for the most part, too. For the most part.
by fishoutawata on
Aug 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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Really, it doesn't count for much
Mora has a lot of RBIs because:
1. Markakis and Roberts usually bat ahead of him, and they get on base really well
2. Mora is not absolutely terrible with the bat, just “meh”
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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I'll give him this
In “clutch” numbers, Melvin has def been clutch as fuuuhhh.
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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True
but usually those numbers come back to the mean sooner or later. If not this year, than next.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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right
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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jesus with RBIs
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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C'mon Dennis.
Find the fricking strike zone.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs
good start, Menace
I’m getting sick of you.
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs
I liked him way more when he was coming out of the pen
and just throwing 98.
Also, picking off Derek Jeter.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on
Aug 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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Attaboy, Dennis
you don’t want to mess with the strike zone—it’s unknown territory, who knows what could happen?
by fishoutawata on Aug 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Castro's not starting like it says on the lineup up there
He was penciled in but now he’s out.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT 0 recs
YES THIS RULES
RBI triple for Dellucci.
SARFARTY FOR THE WIN
fuck
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT 0 recs
Sarfate is using the risky
“Curveballs in the dirt the whole game” strategy.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT 0 recs
I bet Ben Francisco rakes a double here
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT 0 recs
well, just a drilled single
This gon’ be a long’un.
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Interesting side note
I was reading an article about how hard King Felix throws, and there was a link to fangraphs on the average fastball speed. Did you guys know that, on average, Guts throws his fastball harder than Cabrera? We obviously know that Guthrie is much better than Death Cab, but I would not have guessed.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT 0 recs
Cabrera's velocity has dipped badly
But he’s a better pitcher so hey.
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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Yeah
At least Cabrera seems to have settled in as a useful #4. Quite frankly, not many pitchers with his DIPS stats make it that far, it seems.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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he is exactly what "innings eater" means
I’m fine with that. It was that or he’s out of baseball by now.
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Now as soon as Waters
becomes the next Johan Santana, your rotation for next year is all set. :p
But seriously, is there any word on the O’s signing Matusz?
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by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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it'll happen
(knock on wood)
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Actually,
usually it does. But I just wondered if there had been anything official.
At least you haven’t been watching the Tyler Sample thrill ride – drafted by KC, signs, and Ks 27 in his first 18 pro innings…to go with 24 walks.
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by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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do you have a link to said article?
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on
Aug 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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It was more of a blurb
I’m not sure why I used the word “article.” But here’s R.J. Anderson’s post with the link.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/8/6/588074/king-felix-throws-hard
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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holy shit
Peralta single.
Ahahaha, come on Buck. “Jhonny Peralta has really become a good hitter.” When? This year? Or was it YEARS AGO?
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT 0 recs
Choo Choooooo
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT 0 recs
he's going to walk Choo, isn't he
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:22 PM EDT 0 recs
YES
Sar-far-tay got an out!
Oh wait…no he didn’t. Holy fucking crap we stink.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:22 PM EDT 0 recs
the fuck?
Cintron dragged his foot across the bag there.
Fuck you, asswipe.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT 0 recs
Garko's gonna hit a salami, isn't he
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT 0 recs
As always, I want to punch the umps
all of them, square in the balls.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Whatever happens, we should not be wasting any relievers today
Let Sarfate roast out there, no pitch count. It’s a loss anyway.
by fishoutawata on Aug 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT 0 recs
yeah, fuck him
Don’t obliterate the bullpen on Sarfarty’s behalf.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Where have you gone, Hayden Penn?
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by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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snake-handling services, maybe?
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on
Aug 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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well I guess we got an out at least
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by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 PM EDT 0 recs
SAL!!!
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 PM EDT 0 recs
man
Sarfate is exactly the guy Fasano eats up.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 PM EDT 0 recs
hahaha
A Sal Fasano ground ball RBI single as Luke Scott refuses to throw the ball. This is comedic. This is hideous.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Oh wow
Sal Fasano continues to haunt the O’s.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs
this shit is ridiculous.
there’s been one ball hit in the air, and 4 runs have scored.
Jesus.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 11, 2008 7:29 PM EDT 0 recs
He's being BABIPed to death
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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should be two
Thank God.
I’d rather Sarfate’s wife pitch.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT 0 recs
I think after tonight
they’re probably getting divorced.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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Oh thank you, Jesus.
and Melvin Mora.
I’m switching this off at 8, and watching my old Little League play for the Mid-Atlantic regional title on ESPN2
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT 0 recs
All right, ready for the drinking game?
Take a shot everytime Sarfate walks someone.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT 0 recs
...no
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by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Fuck.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs
jesus fucking christ
Sarfate is a bum.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Asdrubal Cabrera?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 11, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs
ugh
This is a joke. This guy has no business starting, and they’re overrating how good he was as a reliever, too.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Aug 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT 0 recs
He's a useful reliever
By which I mean he’s still too wild to trust day in and day out.
You think Sherill’s going to get traded, by the way?
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by NHZ on
Aug 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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probably not
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Aug 11, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Yeah,
to be honest, I don’t think the market is very good for relievers this year. Last year the Linebrink and Gagne returns were about as good as anyone good expect. This year, I don’t think any team is going out on a limb for relief pitcher unless it’s a Huston Street or something.
Besides, Sherill’s under team control for a while. There’s no hurry.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 11, 2008 7:51 PM EDT