Gameday Thread: O's (56-62) @ Indians (54-64)
by Scott Christ on Aug 13, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
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PrintBaltimore Orioles at Cleveland Indians, Aug 13, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
7:05 / MASN2 :: 76° :: Wind in from CF - 5 MPH :: Rain - 20%
Today's Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA HR BB K W-L Jeremy Guthrie - RH 25 163.0 3.26 1.17 .238 18 44 102 9-8 Anthony Reyes - RH 1 (11) 21.0 3.86 1.29 .280 2 4 14 3-1
Anthony Reyes came over from St. Louis in a trade on July 26, and he'll get a chance to become a long-term part of the Cleveland rotation after falling out of favor in St. Louis. Maybe he could become like another guy that fell out of favor somewhere and was sent packing.
Imagine if the Indians had Guthrie last year with Sabathia and Carmona.
I'd really like to split this series. Or at least win one game. Here's our big chance!
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indians announcer
“millar without a steal this year.. not likely he’ll be going anywhere…”
Brutal.
Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.
I'm at work
2-0 Good Start
Who would have thought that Aubrey Huff would have 25 HR’s at this point in the season? That’s why I love this game.
Geaux Eaux's
Guts rocks. Pretty much the reason to tune in every fifth O's game.
On the other hand, I wish I’d been watching last night’s Sawx-Rangers game.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Oh no! Melmo bunted!
And even worse, he got on with a base hit.
This will likely give him ideas.
Look for more bunts from Melmo at the least opportune times.
BTW, why would someone who has been as hot as he is, with the power stroke at times, bunt?
SUch is the Zen like mystery of our man Melvin.
Trembles
I love listening to this guy shoot the shit. And I love hearing Buck Martinez regurgitate lines from his MASN blog post from earlier today.
2 on against guts? who's worried.
I’m not. More importantly, Guts ain’t.
I love Jeremy Guthrie
He soothes me.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
not to mention a nice play.
very roberts-like.
nie throw - gotta admit. Went to the right place.
Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.
If only Melmo had decided to be plumber a instead of a baseball player.
Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.
LUUUUUUUUKE
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
If you're watching mlb.tv
then yes, I’m from the future.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
yep - mlb tv...
I was still watching the replay of Payton fielding the ball off the wall when you called the next play.
Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.
my bad
I’ll try to put myself on delay for you guys
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
I'm on MLB.com radio tonight...and wondering whether it's as far behind reality as the TV
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Guthrie
How about scoring this guy some runs…. he should easill be in double digits in WINS
PLEASE -- JUST PLEASE THROW STRIKES.
the indians announcers
how about these guys saying that the speed gun must be wrong, bc Guthrie never hit 97 mph when he was with them.
Dammit Grady
PLEASE -- JUST PLEASE THROW STRIKES.
This just in: Commercialization has struck the Yerks.
Listening to the Moose game last night , I discovered that the team has sold the rights to its press box and, even better, New York Presbyterian is The Official Hospital of the New Yerk Yawkees. I guess they’re expecting a lot of bench-clearing brawls…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Millar's smart...
Luke’s obviously out of shape and has a lousy body (overused O’s joke!) ... so after he exerted himself so much Millar recognizes that he could use a breather and went over to “talk to guthrie” – probably making fun of luke. THE LITTLE THINGS!
Man, Guts hit 97 again...
that’s some high level velocity…
how about these guys saying that the speed gun must be wrong, bc Guthrie never hit 97 mph when he was with them.
PLEASE -- JUST PLEASE THROW STRIKES.
Their reasoning is stupid...
but they might not be wrong. I don’t recall Guts hitting 97 all year. I mean, I definitely seen 95.. maybe 96 a couple times… any of you?
Adam Jones would've caught that
OK, not really, but Jones deserves a mention in every game thread even when he’s hurt.
I remember Dave Dellucci
I was kinda sad when we lost him in the expansion draft.
I was also eleven.
dellucci, finley would have made a fine outfield back then
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
dellucci, finley and bradley?
(i mean, seriously…brooks robinson called him bradley anderson, right?)
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Millar looks like he's running underwater.
or maybe through jello.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
I had jello today.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Ya wonder if Guts looked at the scoreboard during the Sawx-Rangers game last night and...wept?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Hey who's the ump tonight?
I have to say the guy is consistent and his strike zone is probably one of the most accurate I’ve seen all year…
Imagine we had 2 Jeremy Guthries?
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
In the 69 starts NOT made by Guthrie or Cabrera
The other guys have averaged:
5 IP
3.6 ER (6.54 ERA)
Replace 25 of those starts with another Guthrie (6.5 IP, 2.4 ER), and the O’s are probably 5-6 wins better, or about even with the Yanks.
dear guts...
you are totally awesome! how DO you do it?
fondest regards,
jHq
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
Any chance of that Bergesen coming up?
I mean, there’s no way he could do worse than the trash we’re throwing out there every 3rd, 4th, and 5th day
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
I think they are waiting for Penn
They really want to avoid calling pitchers up from AA.
Bergesen would almost certainly struggle in the majors, considering he isn’t missing many bats in AA.
Understandable
But whenever I see his number they flash on the screen every 5 days I get so depressed at the prospect of seeing poor, poor Dennis Sarfate being sacrificed one more time.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
I agree that it's painful to watch
But unfortunately, Penn and Liz are the most likely callups at this point.
Plenty of pain to go around.
Guts at 90 pitches through 6
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Damn, for a moment it sounded like that foul was gonna hit Ferd Manfraud.
It would be interesting (if disorienting) if he suddenly started making sense.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Howza kitchen?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Whoo, n-i-i-ice!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
thank you, thank you.
that stove was so tight a fit, it wouldn’t travel past the sink because the wall is a little bowed there. he had to lift it over the counter, move it back to the exhaust fan and lower it down.oy vey.
I love the counter
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
thanks.
would you believe that’s IKEA?
that entire counter cost about $120. And it’s durable as all hell.
really
I never would have guessed that. It looks way nicer than IKEA. Good find.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Yeah, I was pretty psyched.
It solved a major time constraint for me in that I didn’t have to order it and wait two weeks.
FYI, everything in that kitchen is IKEA except the appliances.
meaning, the sink, the counter, the fixtures, even the exhaust fan.
Looks good!
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Why end his night?
He’s still throwing 95 and with a pitch count of 101, he could at least start the next inning.
Rocky Cherry and Jamie Walker are your alternatives.
Especially since it's only a 1 run lead.
makes me nervous
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
This is when we miss ChadBrad
Can’t we sneak him over from Tampa Bay when they aren’t looking?
They aren’t using him anyway, as far as I can tell.
He got the win a few days ago, I saw in the box score.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Joe A. sez Guts is coming back out.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
It would just make my day
if Aubrey could hit one out right here.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Are you hinting from the future?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
guess you'll see :)
just kidding, no.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Mem-lo, Mem-lo, Mem-lo!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Millar just looks uncomfortable at the plate
Seriously, a day off for this guy. He’s, like, 60 years old, right?
He's also been cold as ice
They should put old Lou in there for a few games and let him have a break.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Dammit Kevbo!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
ugh.
I just don’t trust a 2-1 lead.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Luckily for the uninitiated, Ferd just remarked "Now the Orioles will need a hit to score."
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Are the Orioles too good for scoring on
botched rundowns, booted groundballs, and muffed fly balls?
Yeah, Joe was forced to add a little litany of other ways it could happen. While Ferd pouted, no doubt.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Jamie fucking Walker
is in
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Andy better spend that "dough" wisely
Like on Brian Matusz, for example.
Damn, no Guts after all!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
And Montanez is in for Scott defensively
I’m filled with confidence.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
OK, 5 MORE OUTS PLEASE.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
We're tied, I'm in Pennsylvania.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Now there's one f*cked up mess...
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
if i read one more "the russian bear awakes" headline....
i’m going to get all eastern promises on somebody
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
People keep SENDING ME STUFF!! Well intentioned, no doubt, but cripes!!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
the KGB returning to the motherland?
under vladmir puta madre?
Whoa, backwards K!!! 4 MORE OUTS PLEASE!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
This Phelps Phan commercial
is pretty much as annoying as the Ronnie’s a dillweed one.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
except...
ronnie’s being a dillweed has brought untolled mirth to this season, while phelps phandom has merely brought annoyance.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job, Jamie
Thanks for not sucking today.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
francisco is a fucking pussy
he wasn’t going to swing at shit that at bat. which shows that rocky cherry is an incompetent pitcher
Word. I like progressive dinners, though.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
They aren't enviro-friendly
I mean, we gotta drive five places just to finish dinner? What the hell, mang.
Ooh, well played.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
I'm sure you've seen this before...
but here it is anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXOh4g_FLIM
I hate Rocky Cherry
1) he sucks as a pitcher
2) he makes me crave a delicious frozen dessert
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
You might just be remembering
his cameo in the awesome movie Little Big League.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
isn't it illegal?
i DO remember when alan wiggins got caught off guard w/ the hidden ball trick, though.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahah
stadium plays the song: “Boooooorn… to be wiiiiiilllldddd…”
ROCKY!!! You f*cking douche!!!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
It's official. MLB.com radio is at *least* as far behind as MLB.com TV. Sigh...
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Now we gotta go through another heart attack
in the bottom of the 9th.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Yessss!!! 3 MORE OUTS PLEASE!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
hahhahaah what the hell?
thanks Choo.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
actually on replay
it wasn’t THAT close
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
christ..
an accurate throw gets hernandez out there.
laaaaaaaaaaaame
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Garked out by 4 feet!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
OK, Jaypay steals 3rd...
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
can't even remember the context...
but we read a case about miss cleo in law school. i laughed.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
that seems a little extreme
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
NICKY!
He never lets me down.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
i love the indians' announcer's response to this
They sound soooooooooo excited.
NICK NICK NICK!!!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
That wouldn't be rich Corinthian leather, would it?
by fishoutawata on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the Orioles so much right now
It’s disgusting how much my mood can changed based on a few base hits.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
oh I know
my mood can change in an instant. I’m prepared to possibly be pissed off in a few minutes.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
seriously, though...
who is this guy? he’s like aubrey huff, only good!
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
it's pretty incredible, in my opinion
He’s been consistently awesome. He’s been so dependable that home runs seem like the norm for him.
Does anyone remember that huff got the shit booed out of him earlier this season? Wow, we’re a bunch of assholes for that.
bullshit...
he desired vociferous bboing for a bit, i think. he has duly redeemed himself, though.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah you're probably right
He took his lumps and then went out and moved on and now he’s arguably the best player on the team.
it is crazy...
this is the first time i can think of in a long time that there’s been a flat out dogfight for most valuable oriole. huffy? roberts? markakis? guts? MAYBE jj?
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe A. sez "Huff Daddy winds up at second!"
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
What's the score?
I have yet to get EI in LA yet.
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
nice win for guthrie and as mentioned he deserves each one
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
oriolesque...
or orioles: que?
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally got one by the guy!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
ha! jack time commercial...
i’m sure 3DG’s all, “man, i’d sure like to whet my whistle!”
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
Three f*cking outs please, George
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Good game, O's!
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
R!
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
L!
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
E!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
S!
magic magic magic
Orioles magic, feel it happen.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
fer real...
he’s still a child!
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely.
foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08
by j.q. higgins on Aug 13, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Why mess with what works?
I’ll take a .300/.400/.500 hitter any day of the week.
Guts is awesome
1 R, 4 H, 1 BB, 4 SO over 8—just beautiful. He is getting better every day.
really?
That’s awesome.
"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail
Oops
But see, the way this team is hitting, if ANY other starter could consistently provides QS, they’d be winning a lot more. Guts is carrying this team.
by fishoutawata on Aug 13, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on what you mean
I think there’s a top tier of starting pitchers that are truly dominant, and I don’t think Guts is there.
That said, the elite tier is only about 5-10 pitchers big, and Guthrie ranks well in that second tier of 10-15 starters. There’s also a lot of value in his ability to stay healthy (so far), and his stellar defense.
I don’t think a team really needs a pitcher in that elite tier to be successful, though. A team with Guthrie as their best pitcher can make the playoffs and win in the playoffs.
An' how 'bout our frozen dessert?
Got his ERA down to 16.20!
:)
i bet it was because he had to sit so long in the top of the inning.
even though we didn’t score, it was a long inning. maybe he stiffened up.
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