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Angels 6, O's 5: Sherrill's ice water melts

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If you missed tonight's West Coast game, then consider this an invitation to my gangsta nation.

The Orioles got a crap start from Dennis Sarfate and a crap finish from George Sherrill, who walked Chone Figgins to score the winning run and give Anaheim the 6-5 win.

And oh yeah, the Orioles had scored four in the top of the ninth just to make it 5-5, which was all for naught because ICE WATER VEINS walked in the winning run with Chone Figgins at the plate.

I've about had it with Sherrill. Where are all the "best O's closer since Randy Myers!" dudes at now? That was malarky then, and even worse now.

The biggest story might have been the fact that Gary Thorne is so in love with Mark Teixeira that he tried to call a Teixeira single off the wall like it was a walkoff grand slam from Nick Markakis. Thorne seems convinced that Teixeira would actually consider playing for the Orioles just because he's from Maryland. It won't happen. I'm sure he'll listen to an offer, and we do have a nice relationship with Scott Boras now, but we can't offer him the money that, say, the New York Yankees can, so don't get your hopes up.

Chris Waters is going to start tomorrow, they think. Urgh. Lou Montanez is coming up, too. Augh.

Welcome to the dog days.

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DD confirms Chris Waters for tommorow

and Fahey goes down. MASN still acting like it’s a mystery why Lou Montanez is at the team hotel.

And DD says Adam is out for the rest of the series, and then will be re-examined in Baltimore.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 1:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Montanez

Numbers in Bowie:
.334, 26 HR, 97 RBI

Last 10 games:
.523, 5 HR, 24 RBI

Granted, a 26-year-old probably shouldn’t really be hanging his hat on AA numbers…

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by CStoneNo37 on Aug 5, 2008 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just back from the game
I’ve about had it with Sherrill.

I was about to write the same damn thing. He walks Jeff Mathis who is hitting a .220. How the hell do you walk this guy. You throw a damn strike and if he beats you, he beats you. Great comeback albeit aided by Teix’s error. Fuck Sherrill. The flat brim magic is over.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Aug 5, 2008 1:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So glad I fell asleep.

These sorts of losses are particularly horrible to swallow as a fan. If you’re gonna lose, don’t bother comin back in the 9th in awesome fashion. Just lose 5-1. Please.

by Y Not on Aug 5, 2008 6:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep, me too.

passing out is MY finishing move.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Aug 5, 2008 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Life is too short

to watch my team lose in the 9th, so I’ve given up watching the other team bat late in games because only bad things can happen

by Reddrummer9187 on Aug 5, 2008 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

moves...

here’s a though: adam everett, king of the no all glove no hit shortstops looks likely to get shitcanned. flyer? i mean, if you’re going to have a glove guy, you may as well have the best.

when payton goes, do you think reimold comes up or do we get fio 2 electric boogaloo? i think calling up waters is an indicator.

bah.

fuck razor.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Aug 5, 2008 7:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My summary of last nights game.

Inning 1, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Inning 2, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Inning 3, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Inning 4, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Inning 5, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Inning 6, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Inning 7, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Inning 8, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,
Top of Inning 9, This is Birdland, motherfuckers!
Bottom of Inning 9, land of the rally monkey of the Angels of Los Angeles, CA, USA, NA, WH,

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Aug 5, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And yeah..

I stayed up til 1:17 AM watching it only get up at 6:30 with the 4 mo. old… Motherfucking Orioles.

Welcome to the dog days
At least it took til Aug 5 to get to the dog days… instead of April 1, like everyone thought. The good news is we’re getting to actually look at some of the Youngin’s. Let’s go Baby Orioles.

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Aug 5, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

v. hard to blame sherrill for this.

the angels score at will it seems.

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Aug 5, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question

I assume B.J. Ryan is the best O’s closer since Randy, right?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Statistically Speaking

Armando Benetiez was better in his one year as the Orioles closer than George Sherrill is this year. So was Mike Timlin in 1999, Buddy Groom in 2001, Jorge Julio in 2002 and 2004, and B.J. Ryan and Chris Ray in both of their tenures as the Orioles closer.

In fact, if it weren’t for Ryan Kohlmeier, George Sherril would pretty clearly be the worst closer the Orioles have had since Randy Meyers.

Ice water in his veins my ass. He sucks.

by yurizanow on Aug 5, 2008 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But, but, but....

30 saves!

/I know, I know…..

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sherrill & the Others

Regardless of what happened last night, I still stand behind Sherrill. Everyone can bitch all they want about how bad he is at closer, but he was the only candidate we had at the beginning of the season. McCrory fever got grounded in his futile attempt at the majors. JJ is doing well, but the O’s can’t figure out where he is best suited. Chris Ray comes back next year, but will he be closer material and was he before? Like him or not, Sherrill has given us a good 9th inning guy who, generally, gets the job done. It is always shaky, and we have said all along that he is and was going to be like that, so for people to fly off the handle now after this is just ridiculous.

Chris Waters was a guy I thought might get a September call-up simply because it is nearing that make or break time for him. I hope he does well because we can use any kind of stability in the rotation we can get.

Lou Montanez is another guy who keeps getting overlooked, and at 26, is ready to make his mark. He has been at AA, according to Roch, because the O’s wanted him to play with the better team (Norfolk sucks) to make a run at the playoffs. Also, in AA, he gets constant at-bats. I think if Adam Jones goes on the DL it would be a great time to stick him out in left and give Luke Scott some time off to rest the ankles and feet that are ailing him. If you watched the game last night, you can clearly see Scott is having a terrible time in left field. Here’s to Lou and his debut.

by PWubbs on Aug 5, 2008 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to defend Georgie...

but he pitched a good 8th inning and was up to 1 2/3 innings. Not that that should make a big deal (IMO) but everyone got their panties in a bunch over 2 1/3 innings in the All-Star game. Shit happens and more often than not, he gets the job done. Besides… why is he still on this team anyway? Shouldn’t he be suring up the lefty backend of the Yankees bullpen or somethng?

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Aug 5, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The argument for why George Sherrill is pretty good

sounds alot like the argument that Chad Cordero was a good closer. He put men on bases but he always got out of it because he had “icewater in his veins”. Now Chad Cordero’s fastball clocks in the mid ‘80s, and his major league career could well be over. When you close as many one run games the O’s play in, your going to get alot of saves, regardless of how many games you’ve blown.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Aug 5, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn right dude!

I’m still a Sherrill fan!

by Y Not on Aug 5, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sherrill being our “best option” (it’s probably Johnson) doesn’t make him good. Joe Borowski got the job done more often than not for the Indians last year, and he sucks, too. “More often than not” is not in the closer job description.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Aug 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only did Borowski suck this year

he got DFA’d by the Indians more than a month ago.

In Sherrill’s defense, he is 30 for 36, yes? That’s an 80% success rate, right? Not ideal, but better than “more times than not.” And lefties ARE hitting only .206 against him. He’s not really a closer, he just plays on on the Orioles…..

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally forgot there was a game last night

Oops! I was out of town all weekend, so I missed Garrett and Jeremy’s gems. What happened to Adam Jones?

"There is a value to breaking the string of losing seasons as an organization or as a franchise. But breaking that streak can’t come at the expense of doing what you need to do to get your franchise to the point where it can reach the postseason." ~Andy MacPhail

by Stacey on Aug 5, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fouled one off an ankle

that was already hurting him, iirc

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just going to throw it out there that while Sherrill wasn't good in the 2nd inning last night...

He’s a lefty specialist who’s already exceeded his career high in innings, Maybe he shouldn’t have been out there for a 2nd inning last night…

by O'sFan21 on Aug 5, 2008 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's that, too

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah..

what that guy (gal) said.

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Aug 5, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm very glad I fell asleep after the bottom of the eighth.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Aug 5, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw...

everybody think the dennis sarfate experiment is over or are kranwich and trembles continuing this charade until august?

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Aug 5, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uh, september...

that is.

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Aug 5, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they might give 2 more starts

but only if shows ANY improvement in his next start. I mean, last night was ZERO improvement over his start @ MFY.

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Aug 5, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many starts did Liz get?

I rest my case.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

Liz is considered one of our best prospects. Sar-farty was a throw-in from the Astros who had been moved out of a starting role in the minors a couple years ago because his command sucks.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Aug 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen Sarfate's fastball?

And he’s a fairly tall guy too.. he has tons of potential.. he just needs to learn how to control his pitches and then he’ll be a potential force in the AL. Tons of potential.

by Y Not on Aug 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve seen a lot of fastballs, bro. “Good fastball” doesn’t excite this Orioles fan after the last decade.

I do like Sarfate, but I think he’s got reliever written all over him. That way he can turn it up to 11 and dominate, which we’ve seen him do this year.

Also I don’t know if you’re being cheeky or not (it’s hard to tell) but needing to learn to control your pitches is not a “just” situation. Command is very hard and has been the downfall of thousands of fantastic arms.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Aug 5, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Teixeria bears an uncanny resemblence to John Rocker in that pic.

Maybes its just the Braves hat, but I had to do a double take that maybe Gary’s drunken ramblings last night led him to Rocker…

by cdavis627 on Aug 5, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it sucks and yeah I'll be around to watch it suck worse.

Way to not close, closer. But then, when you’re starting Sir Fartay, the fact that you’re in closer territory at all is a small miracle…

Meanwhile, the Russian gov’t has decided to play hard to get with visas, the pr#cks, so it looks like I won’t be getting one this month. Which means I get to be around for the September Slide, woot-woot.

In other news—i.e. news from teams whose games are carried by stations more elaborate than two hampsters in a chase-cage urged on by one of Petey’s dimmer nephews—I heard a really good play Sunday in the Yerks-Angels game:

It’s 5-0 Angels. Abreu is on second and The Cap’n on third, one out, and a long fly goes to deep left. The Cap’n tags up, of course, and jogs home easily with the Yerks’ first run.

But then again he doesn’t. See, Abreu also tagged at second and took off for third, where he was tagged out—before Stupidhead scored on his meandering jog home! John Sterling was left speechless. I wasn’t. I said Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

True, it’s a tough call whether The Cap’n was actually stupider than Abreu, who was busy making the third out at third base (hello, cardinal rules) for no conceivable gain. Anyway, it was a nice moment, even though the Angels messed their own pants later and lost.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Aug 5, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As Marv says...
This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 5, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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