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Link is to an mlb.com article where it's mentioned that Teixeira considers Baltimore a possible free agent destination. No, there's not much substance here since the guy's clearly trying to say "all the right things," but I thought I'd link it here anyway. I'd be interested if you guys think there's a legit shot at the O's making a run at signing him...I know it'd go against a conventional rebuilding program but if the O's can get him for 4 or 5 years it might make sense.

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Can't imagine getting him for 4-5 years

Not with recent deals like Soriano’s out there, Boras as his agent, and high-spending teams supposedly after him. That said, I still would want him even for more.

by U2boy417 on Aug 6, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

it will take

1. A ton of money
2. Seven or eight years, at least
3. An ability to convince him that we’ll surround him with the right players so that we and he can win

Here’s the thing that some people are ignoring when it comes to our rebuilding. I don’t think this is going to be a strictly “from the ground up” sort of deal. We’ll be less Oakland/Minnesota, probably, than what Detroit did. Some homegrown players mixed with the RIGHT free agents. I’m hoping we don’t go all Dumb-browski and wind up getting Gary Sheffield, but past that Dombrowski did a super job in Detroit.

Teixeira would fit that. I don’t see us getting him because he’s going to get some great offers, but it’s worth a shot.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Aug 6, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we have a tendency to think "too good to be true" in regards to ACTUALLY getting teix

But if you think about it, for the most part he WILL be surrounded by the right players…

Adam Jones, Nick Markakis, Matt Wieters and him cover almost half of the lineup… Starting pitching, on the other hand, could be a problem.

by Y Not on Aug 6, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

But this is the one free agent

where if BAL ponies up the cash, he WOULD sign here. We offered Vlad more money than LAA, he still signed there. We all remember Syd Thrift’s complaints that the O’s were seemingly offering “Confederate money” no one wanted. With Tex, if we offer as much as NYY and BOS, we might still get him. We wouldn’t have to overpay by 10% or 20% just to get him.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Aug 6, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Konerko, too

Not just Vlad.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 7, 2008 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

and pavano

how disappointed are we that he didn’t sign with us, huh?

by Y Not on Aug 7, 2008 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

srsly

Pennants galore if only we had Pavano.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 7, 2008 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Jones hit .279/.320/.405 with seven home runs this season. I understand his potential, you understand his potential, but it’s hard to sell an agent on that as a bargaining chip sort of thing when the New York Yankees are going to be in the running.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Aug 7, 2008 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

but throughout the league a lot of opposing managers have been complimenting the guy… I think he’s not under the radar.. even with our obvious balt bias.

by Y Not on Aug 7, 2008 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh definitely not

Everyone knows he’s a quality young player with the potential to bloom into a legitimate star. But he’s yet to really turn it up and I don’t think he can be sold as a reason to bring Teixeira in.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Aug 7, 2008 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the combo

of him and Wieters, another Boras client, would certainly be a consideration. Any serious person involved with the game recognizes that a steady flow of inexpensive, good, younger players is crucial to winning for a medium market team, and we have something that resembles that, finally. I don’t see why Teixeira would be unaware of this or not take it into account.

by Jonny Pops on Aug 7, 2008 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not really up to Teixeira. Outside of A-Rod overruling him with the Yankees, Boras dominates these negotiations almost completely (that’s the impression I’ve always read, anyway). Boras can go, “Yeah, well, this guy hasn’t really contributed yet. What else you got?”

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by Scott Christ on Aug 8, 2008 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boras is asking for $230M

If that what it takes to sign, then no, I’ll pass.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Aug 6, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

what the hell?

man, don’t just pin that on boras.. teix is freaking crazy to ask for that much… is that over 10 years? I agree with you.. if that’s what they’re asking for, let the yankees pay for it. Not that I care about Peter Angelos’ spending habits, but that’s just ridiculous.

by Y Not on Aug 7, 2008 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The A-Rod contracts were freaking crazy, too. The Dodgers pay Andruw Jones $18 million a year. Scott Boras gets it DONE.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 7, 2008 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

on-dru...

HA HA!

foghat goes with everything--birdman, 5/16/08

by j.q. higgins on Aug 7, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would Teixeira want to sign with a losing team like the Orioles?

He is with a team that is a shoe in to win their division and likely to go deep in to the post season. If you are a commodity that any team would want, and you are going to get paid the same huge salary anywhere you go, it would be likely you would want to sign with a team that at least has the potential to win a championship every year.

by 44FAN on Aug 7, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Players choose money over playoff viability all the time

See: Miguel Tejada and the Orioles. ARod and the Rangers. Mike Hampton and the Rockies.

I was just thinking about this the other day: while huge baseball player salaries may seem interchangably ludicrous to us plebeians, the addition of a few million dollars on top of two hundred could mean the difference between buying that boat and not buying that boat. Or donating that much more to charity. Or whatever rich people do with their money.

Winning is great, and everyone wants to win, but first and foremost on everyone’s mind is “me and my family.” For some people, that’s more money. For others, that’s playing near their family or childhood home (ie Griffey).

So the fact that Texeira even answered the question the way he did means that he either a) is actually considering Baltimore, or, more likely, B) is keeping teams guessing so they’ll throw even more money at him.

If the Angels win the World Series, Texeira will probably be thankful that he’s there and will probably have a great time. But that doesn’t mean he’s going to take a few million less to stay there, or that he’ll suddenly shed any sort of nostalgia for his home.

Winning is nice. Peace of mind is nicer.

by PhilR8 on Aug 7, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

It might be true, and it might not, but he seems like he’d prefer to be closer to home, which is Maryland for him. I’m not saying that means I think he’ll be in Baltimore next year. New York seems likely, one team or the other.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Aug 8, 2008 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Wieters is looking good

The man looks to be the real thing, I’m starting to get on the band wagon. .360 7 HR OPS of 1.070.

When is he coming to Norfolk

by merdon1332000 on Aug 7, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

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