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Baltimore Orioles @ Boston Red Sox


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Starting Pitchers GS IP ERA WHIP BAA HR BB K W-L
Radhames Liz - RH 12 57.0 6.95 1.79 .288 15 38 40 5-3
Jon Lester - LH 28 176.2 3.41 1.30 .262 13 53 124 12-5

Rad Liz hasn't been so bad since being recalled. Not great, of course. He throws too many balls and can't get far enough in the game as a result. Hopefully the O's can get to Lester and we can try and beat this Red Sox team for once. It'd be nice to help out the Rays, White Sox, and Twins anyway (not that the White Sox and Twins have been doing much to help themselves).

Ah, the sweet smell of September baseball.

Go O's!

 

Lineup

Baltimore Orioles Boston Red Sox
Brian Roberts - 2B Jacoby Ellsbury - LF
Adam Jones - CF Dustin Pedroia - 2B
Nick Markakis - RF David Ortiz - DH
Aubrey Huff - DH Kevin Youkilis - 1B
Ramon Hernandez - C Mark Kotsay - RF
Kevin Millar - 1B Jed Lowrie - 3B
Oscar Salazar - 3B Jason Varitek - C
Lou Montanez - LF Alex Cora - SS
Juan Castro - SS Coco Crisp - CF

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Update from Amber:

Guts will not be starting tomorrow. He’s taking 3 days off due to “dead arm.” Starter tomorrow TBD, will be someone from the bullpen.

OH man.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT   0 recs

meh, let's get ourselves a top draft pick at this point

the pitching has gone too hell.

I didn’t think we were being that hard on Guthrie. It’s disappointing.

by math_geek on Sep 2, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

more IP than he's had before

Remember it was right around this time last year he went on the DL with his strained oblique.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm surprised it took this long

Dude’s been carrying 20 or so guys on his back all season. Had to wear him down at some point.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jim Jones

Everyone in baseball who’s ever heard of him has been thinking “starter” anyway, so why not in september when you’re out of options.

With JJ on the mound, we might even be able to take this series, which would be twice as sweet, since we handed it to tampa bay already.

1933 was a bad year

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 2, 2008 7:27 PM EDT   0 recs

I guess you mean Jim Johnson

Although mass suicide certainly is an option.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember, it was Flavor-Aid, not Kool-Aid

Just sayin’.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh wow.

Ramon was even safer on that play than Aubrey was in Toronto.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

yes that was bullshit

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was a shockingly bad call

And it was against a team that seems to get all the calls.

If you can’t see the damn play, ask another umpire. You could probably tell he was safe from the top of the green monster.

by dkdc on Sep 2, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think replay should

be enabled for plays like that one, too. It doesn’t require an additional stoppage because after the guy is called safe/out what’ll they have to do… time him running to the dugout? That could’ve had a direct impact on the outcome of the game. I mean it’s a RUN, for crying out loud!!!

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Sep 3, 2008 10:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh Ramon

That was embarrassing.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 7:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Seriously, why do I do this to myself?

Why do I ever think the Os will win a game against a contender in September? Every year, I do the same thing.
Masochism, I tell you. It’s masochism.

by Lothar on Sep 2, 2008 8:07 PM EDT   0 recs

I don't ask for much

It’s not like I’m expecting them to win a series or two games in a row.
All I want is one win against a contender when it counts. One lousy win.
But I fear they can’t win in this division with this pitching staff. Not when the games really matter.
Don’t know what the solution is. Just blowin’ off some steam.

by Lothar on Sep 2, 2008 8:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Save it for that final game at Yankee Stadium

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Sep 2, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is it just me

Or does Pedroia hit every homer against the Orioles.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Sep 2, 2008 8:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh, just fuck off and die already

Metaphorically, of course. I don’t wish you ill will as an actual human being. Just as a concept.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Come on

22 posts? What the hell is that? Just remember that people can also jump OFF bandwagons, even those that were only half full to begin with.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Enlighten me

as to what in the hell your are talking about.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

YOU ARE

Damn, I need an editor

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Where the motherfuck

are all the cocksucking Oriole fans? What happened to 200 posts about punching Sox fans in the face and the occasional lucid comment? Come on! I thought you people were a different breed of loyal! I gotta say I’m disappointed.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, now I got you

Look, we’re good for about 5 months of this shit. But 6? It’s almost hockey season. Gotta build up my reserve to do this all over again next year and convince myself this team will ever reach the playoffs again in my lifetime.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Motherfuck

The Yankees, the Red Sox (Dustin “Pee Wee” Pedroia especially) and all the motherfucking bandwagon jumpers. Oh, and may I add M.F. Peter Angelos to that list too?

by MurraysLaw on Sep 2, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes you may

Earlier tonight I was thinking, “Man, I really hate the red sox.” And then I thought, “Wow, I really fucking hate the Orioles for allowing the red sox to beat them so badly.”

by PhilR8 on Sep 2, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHA

That’s Delusional.

by dkdc on Sep 2, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why?

He’s going to get some MVP votes, whether he’s the “real” MVP or not. I figure if the writers are going to vote like tards I might as well enjoy it.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And for that matter

he’s also sixth in the AL in VORP so I’m not exactly sure what’s delusional. Perhaps the fervent belief still held by a select few that Brian Roberts is the superior player.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Now, see....

that’s an attitude I can understand and sympathize with.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm more disappointed in you and red sox fans

And certainly not surprised at your lack of lucid comments.

by drj on Sep 2, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

you are basically a Sox fan so I feel your pain.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm. That doesn't make any sense

But I guess I would feel some shame and aggravation if I were a red sox fan.

by drj on Sep 2, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No

you’re just like one of those self-loathing closeted gays, like a Larry Craig or Mark Foley. It would probably help to just let it out but you go at your own speed.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's all you got? I'm "GAY"?

My nine year old nephews have moved beyond that level of retort.

The more you rant the more your intelligence level is put on display. You should know it is not flattering.

by drj on Sep 2, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It was a really simple analogy

You have heard of similes, right? The Orioles are like twenty-five unpolished turds, etc.?

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You were doing so well upthread.

Now?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm simply

trying to help poor, misguided drj accept his true self and be happy.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

CCers, just ignore AMA in the future

He’s just trolling.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I most certainly am not

My stances that Pedroia is, like, good and drj is a closeted Red Sox fan are certainly no less heinous than what’s his balls expressing his desire to punch people in the face every other post. You people are out of your gourds.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 3, 2008 5:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And for that matter

since you desire a real conversation so, how about someone sticks up for the idea that Pedroia the MVP candidate is “delusional”? Once the, like, facts are on the table, y’all seem to disappear quickly. (See Lester v. Guthrie.) Or you could just continue calling him a short asshole and pretend he sucks. Who’s delusional again?

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 3, 2008 5:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude, I didn’t even call you delusional. If you want to have a conservation about MVP candidates, fine, Pedroia should be in the discussion but he’s certainly not among the favorites. But you came here to post, “Come on 22 posts? What the hell is that? Just remember that people can also jump OFF bandwagons, even those that were only half full to begin with.” That, my friend, is trolling. Don’t even tell me you didn’t post that with the intention of pissing people off.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2008 1:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was after I was told

to “f off and die.” Quite rude if you ask me.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, dude, this is after you posted a trollish comment to start things off. Do you expect people to give you kudos given the context?

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess maybe it is trollish

but you dudes are uber-fucken-sensitive for a lot that includes regular threats of hypothetical violence and an almost utter refusal to admit the other team has, like, good players. And Pedroia is a frontrunner for the MVP. I’m sorry I ruined the thread nobody was posting in. Wah.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 3, 2008 4:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

right.

So you are asking, why is CC lately resembling that dusty graveyard “Green Monster” where nothing of any interest has ever been posted, no matter what happens on the field at Fenway?

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Sep 2, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know what

“Green Monster” is but, yes, I guess I am.

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 2, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Over the Monster?

Monster something?

Monster waste of hard drive space?

Monster collection of positive things to say about Pedroia?

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Sep 2, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It must be tough being a Sox fan

Much respect.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Sep 2, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, show of hands...

how many of us gave up on watching within the last two weeks? I know I have. It happens every late August-early September, and yet I get my yearly O’s depression every year, like I expected something different. I know, Einstein’s theory of insanity and all, but why does every year feel like it ends with a 4-32 slide. Why can’t we just be normal bad to end the year instead of eve of apocalypse bad every year?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 2, 2008 8:42 PM EDT   0 recs

I am still listening (I always listen on the radio)

but goddammit, it’s hard. This shit stinks.

by PhilR8 on Sep 2, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gameday

It may just be me, but following the end of the season collapse is especially painful when all you have is gameday. If I had cable and lived near Baltimore, then I’d probably still watch, but it’s all I can do to pull up gameday after I get back and see the O’s are down 10-1.

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." - - Earl Weaver

by Gorilla Bird on Sep 2, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm still watching

At least until the game gets away from us.

I’ve stopped posting as much, but I’m still reading. I care most about prospects and possible trades. The games are usually too ugly to care much about.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Sep 2, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

until the game gets away from us?

it’s 10-1. This game is over. This game was over before it even began.

by PhilR8 on Sep 2, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A friend from Boston has been giving me shit about this game over IM – I stayed tuned-in to see what he was talking about. Much to my regret.

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Sep 2, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

100%

I’m in this boat.

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Sep 3, 2008 11:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I start watching every game

But between the convention and such, and now fall tv, I have better things to watch.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

how many of us gave up on watching within the last two weeks? I know I have.

I’ve lost a lot of interest, not because they’re losing, they were doing quite of bit that in the beginning of the season too, but because they’re getting blown out. If the games were close, the team could be watchable even if they lose. But now, I go into each game with very little hope that the O’s will win.

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2008 2:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

guh!

What about that home run? I was excited. ADAM JONES, SON!

by PhilR8 on Sep 2, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Liz! Cabrera! Castillo! McCrory!

Red Sox: Fear our pitching! Don’t make us unleash Jamie Walker on you!

Writing is God's way of showing you how sloppy your thinking is.

by typozzz on Sep 2, 2008 9:58 PM EDT   0 recs

D'Oh!

Yeah. I meant Johnson… but after 13-1 and counting I’m really hoping Jim Jones will make an appearance.

An adam jones appearance doesn’t seem to do it for me.

I tried the RNC, but couldn’t stomach the EX POW. Keith Olbermann is A-OK though.

1933 was a bad year

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 2, 2008 10:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Holy crap 13-1!!!

This is just ridiculous. I’m so glad I spent the last two hours watching 90210.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 10:02 PM EDT   0 recs

MASN $1 O's Tickets

Did you all hear that earlier, or had you tuned out? here is the link to MLB/Orioles to buy $1 tickets for upper deck seats for september home games. (Maybe a beer discount to follow? Please?)

cheapo tix

1933 was a bad year

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 2, 2008 10:09 PM EDT   0 recs

yes

I just bought 4 tickets to Saturday night’s game, total of $4! Insanity. Although right now I’m not really in the mood to ever watch another baseball game again.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

me and "the ghost of floyd rayford" will see you there then.

I guess we’ll all be in the same section. We’ll be the drunks in the Adam Jones giveaway shirts.

1933 was a bad year

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 2, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Section 310?

That’s where I am.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 2, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Glad I missed this game

and the entire thread where AMA basically illustrated why I am glad I don’t live in Boston any longer

"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones

by exitfare on Sep 3, 2008 1:34 AM EDT   0 recs

I still isten...

Ain’t nothing else can get me through a shift like the Birds do, at least so far.

But I’m looking foward to football. Because this Thursday, Sunday, AND Monday, I can turn off the Orioles, and put on the football. After that, I guess I got three weeks of listening to the O’s, with only Sunday as my saving grace…

I just tell myself that losing builds character, as all of the Boston fans were saying for years before 2004. You never hear ’em say that anymore. I mean I went to a Boston game a few weeks ago and they beat us like 7-3 or 7-4, and I just wish a Boston fan told me “losing builds character.”

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 3, 2008 10:19 AM EDT   0 recs

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