Tampa Bay Rays @ Baltimore Orioles GameThread, Sep 23, 2008 8:05 PM EDT

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Mitch Talbot	0-0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3.0	5	4	4	2	3	2	12.00	2.67

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Alfredo Simon	0-0	2	0	0	0	0	0	3.1	5	3	3	2	1	2	8.10	1.80

So...uhhhh...

…Simon’s pitching for us, right?

by Jonny Pops on Sep 23, 2008 8:14 PM EDT 0 recs

Glad I'm not the only one who had to ask...

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Rhetorical Question

Which pitcher do you think will have the better outing?

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT 0 recs

Bass yesterday, Simon today. Who are these guys and why are they pitchiing for my team (another rhetorical question)?

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT 0 recs

Admiral Stockdale starts tomorrow...

Who am I? Why am I here?

If that went over your heads, well, that means I’m old, and go ask your parents.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

SNL skits of Adm. Stockdale were awesome.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

Here ya go...

free from hulu.com

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

No Huff Daddy, Dr. Jones or Markakis in the lineup. I guess the O’s like Salazar over Moore and Costanzo.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 8:29 PM EDT 0 recs

He has had a better season. And honestly probably stands as much chance as they do contributing to a major league team at this point.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Sep 23, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

not to mention...

moore has not really been healhy all year, so that’s at least ONE reason to like salazar over moore.

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Sep 23, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

Disagree

Moore is only 24 and raked the minors for the last 3 years. This year was a setback, but he still has a solid chance to be a major leaguer.

by dkdc on Sep 23, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

i think "at this point" is SC's key caveat.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well, Moore has a broken thumb

So he has zero chance of contributing “at this point”

He’s far more likely to have a real major league career than Salazar, IMO.

by dkdc on Sep 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

probably

But Moore’s not that exciting. He’s a C prospect.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by SC on Sep 23, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

fucking alfredo simon...

can’t trust a man w/ two first names.

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Sep 23, 2008 8:49 PM EDT 0 recs

ah!

tim dierkes at mlbtr has done a spreasheet about WARP and first round draft picks. interesting given the perceptions about tonight’s opponent and talk of tnaking it.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/09/built-with-firs.html

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Sep 23, 2008 8:55 PM EDT 0 recs

where are the O's?

Didn’t see them in the spreadsheet.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

O's have a fair number of first round picks

Roberts
Jones
Markakis
Payton
Montanez
Olson
Guthrie

by dkdc on Sep 23, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

I think the point was teams with first round picks actually contributing – enough to bump them up into the top via total WARP. That ain’t the O’s.

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

teams...

w/ their OWN first round picks directly or indirectly (via dudes acquired through trade of first round picks) contribut

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Sep 23, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Adam Loewen, Chris Smith, Beau Hale

Thank you, drive through!

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

the article is a bunch of crap

The rays are #4. Why is that not a significant contribution to be one of the top 4 in baseball? Also, the teams above them have made trades or are shelling out big bucks for some solid players well beyond their first few years in the league. That’s not the Rays MO. I’d say they’ve damn damn well with first round picks.

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

CHARGE!

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 9:06 PM EDT 0 recs

Sweet Zombie Jesus

Is this season over yet? I could attend for free every game from here on out. I can’t stand the idea of sitting in the stands for 3+ hours anymore. Seriously, what the hell is the matter with me? Has anyone else hit that breaking point?

I always say follow your dreams...even if they're about a giant spider with your father's head, and he keeps stealing your p*nis!

by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Sep 23, 2008 9:30 PM EDT 0 recs

I hit it in mid-August

I went on vacation to Disney and baseball-wise, never came back.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

The only reason I’m paying any attention is because a buddy of mine is there for his first trip to Camden Yards. It’s kind of stupid for me to pay attention for that reason.

Hell, the O’s were shit in my eyes by May of last year. They made it to July this year. The may not make it out of the off season next year. Who know.

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

Can I make a request?

If, by some chance, the O’s have the lead in the 7th or so (and with 2 on and 0 out right now, they may be adding to it), can SOMEONE in the Greater Baltimore area drive to the stadium and somehow temporarily incapacitate Jamie Walker so Trembley is not tempted to use him? Can you do a O’s fan a solid and make that happen?

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT 0 recs

poor Jamie Walker

He sucks so hard.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by SC on Sep 23, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

It's 4-1 good guys

Seriously, a blow dart with some Thorazine ought to do the trick.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

and you gotta know

every time the bullpen phone rings and it’s the dugout with news that Jamie should warm up because he’s coming in, he dies a little more inside. Can’t they just let the man finish his miserable season in peace?

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 23, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

So, just checked the box score...

Who the hell is Alfredo Simon? Where did we find someone capable of pitching into the seventh inning?

by math_geek on Sep 23, 2008 10:31 PM EDT 0 recs

and give up zero walks. this is an anomaly, right?

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm not sure he's ever pitched in the major leagues before.

He’s listed as a relief pitcher

by math_geek on Sep 23, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

he's pitched in two games

this year.
for us.
poorly.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by SC on Sep 24, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up 0 recs

THIS IS AN OFFENSIVE EXPLOSION!

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 10:38 PM EDT 0 recs

I ask you people you ONE DAMN FAVOR!

One! All I need is to make sure Jamie doesn’t come in. But noooooooooooo……..

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 10:52 PM EDT 0 recs

We go from 5-1 to 5-4

I blame all you Baltimore area fans, personally. You could have put sugar in his gas tank, cut the power to his house so his alarm clock didn’t go off, reprogram his GPS so he got lost on the way to OPACY, but NO……..

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

6-5 TB

I hope you people up there can live with yourselves. You could have stopped this…

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well, I live in Philadelphia, so I wasn't about to do anything about it.

But really, at this point, it’s funnier this way.

In any case… Happy Yankee Elimination Day!

by math_geek on Sep 23, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

Sorry

I can’t care enough to leave my house.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 23, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's a sentiment

I can completely empathize with.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 23, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

You could have put sugar in his gas tank, cut the power to his house so his alarm clock didn’t go off, reprogram his GPS so he got lost on the way to OPACY, but NO……..

You could drop Jamie Walker in the middle of the Blair Witch Project woods naked and he’ll find his way back to Camden Yards.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

He's sort of like that rooster in the old cartoon....

y’know….the one that annoys the dog so much with his cockadoodledooing…..and the dog comes up with all sorts of inventive ways to get rid of him…but the rooster ALWAYS returns every morning.

Y’know what I’m talking about, right? Guys? Guys?

by Chanumas on Sep 23, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

that was a great prediction

This is sooooo Orioles baseball in September. I told my buddy the O’s would put some meatball out there that immediately let’s the game get out of control.

We say this every year… Do these guys go home and feel even a tad of remorse for sucking so hard?

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well....

it wasn’t like I was pulling out lotto numbers. I mean, we’ve all seen this movie before and it always ends the same way.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 24, 2008 6:41 AM EDT up 0 recs

a new zero every night!

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 PM EDT 0 recs

The Sawx won today

meaning the New York Yankees have been mathematically eliminated from playoff contention.

by math_geek on Sep 23, 2008 11:02 PM EDT 0 recs

Sometimes this team just boggles my mind.

Not the least of which due to the fact that, after eleven years, I had no idea I had this much mind to boggle.

by Chanumas on Sep 23, 2008 11:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Let's see if Diamond Dave goes off tonight on the players

Really, he can kiss my ass if he does. He left Walker in the game to get blasted. He could have been yanked before he completely blew it when it is obvious he was worse than usual tonight. I don’t want to hear any more bullshit about respecting the game and pointing the finger at players. He has to look in the mirror on this one.

by drj on Sep 23, 2008 11:20 PM EDT 0 recs

FUCK YOU JAMIE WALKER!!!

by O'sFan21 on Sep 23, 2008 11:21 PM EDT 0 recs

+1, sadly

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by SC on Sep 24, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up 0 recs

Alfredo Simon

The next Jeremy “WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET A WIN AROUND HERE” Guthrie

by math_geek on Sep 23, 2008 11:39 PM EDT 0 recs

Don't forget Brian Burres

But only when he pitches at Yankee Stadium.

And Trembley just explained the Walker situation – they wanted Miller, but he felt something wrong in his side on his last pitch, so Walker got up quickly and came into the game

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 23, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up 0 recs